Ron Paul just reshaped History, as the Conspiracy against him went into Defcon4

Have any of you stop to realize that Ron Paul is the anti-war guy running in the pro-war party?

yes his number might look impressive, but in all honesty maybe there is some truth to the fact that he is not popular with the majority of the party that is know to be Pro-War?

I'm just sayin'....why does everything have to be a conspiricy?

My big conspiracy is that there are few true conspiracies, and that people propagate conspiracies to make them self feel important and smart or to divert your attention from the truth that is in plan site.

The best places to hide are out in the open, and then miss-direct the masses.

MRknight..

Thats a good point..He is the Odd man out.
Doesn't help that he is making people in his own party look like fools.
Could it be that he is the sane one, in a group of loonies?

It's starting to look like that.
And at some point in the next few weeks, I predict that it will no longer be
conspiracy by omission. Mainstream media will have to pay more attention.
It may take longer, as they still think we are all stoopid..

Originally posted by MrKnight
Have any of you stop to realize that Ron Paul is the anti-war guy running in the pro-war party?

The guy ran libertarian before and got his butt kicked. You think he should run as an indep. now, and get his butt kicked again?
C'mon. He's obviously not stupid.
He's aligning himself with the majority party that most closely mimics his goals, and then will quietly go libertarian on our ass.
If this is correct, you heard it here first .
If this is correct, I love this guy.
Very pragmatic.

Not sure what the rest of your post is refering to....

If you think this is bad, take a look at what they did to Teddy Roosevelt back in 1912. He was the incumbent president, extremely popular and won the Republican primary voting by a landslide and yet they gave the nod to Taft. Teddy was incensed and formed a third party giving the presidency to one of our worst presidents in all of history, Woodrow Wilson. This was the man who gave us the federal reserve act. So if they could control the process back in 1912, you bet they can and will manipulate the process to their desired outcome today. There is no way the shadow government will permit a Ron Paul presidency short of a bloody civil war, sorry to say.

www.theodoreroosevelt.org...

Wow you guys posted alot for me to ty to comment on.

Here goes another benchmark I could finally compute with the data release:

Ron paul entered the quarter with more cash on hand than Tancrado, Hunter, Huckabee, Brown and McCain combined:
Their total: $4,477,400
Ron Paul total: $5,443,667
query.nictusa.com...

Then when you compare the ups/downs percentage wis for the other top-tier:
Ron Paul's 114 percent increase is in stark contrast to the decrease suffered by Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain. Romney's fundraising was down 29 percent. Giuliani was down 40 percent. McCain was down 55 percent.

Their downward percentage points equal Paul's upward points. Good Times.

Ooops! looks like someone is trying to take down RP's biggest base website.
Under attack? Check this out!
Any code warriors out there--- please check this and donate some help!!!

www.military4paul.com...

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You're right, its down...

Well, go to www.ronpaul2008.com... in the mean time.

Specially check out the Writings page to read his articles about:

* Abortion
* Border Protection
* Civil Liberties
* Congress
* Constitution
* Foreign Policy
* Health Care
* Immigration
* Legislation
* National I.D.
* Patriot Act
* Private Property
* Pro-life
* Second Amendment
* Seniors
* September 11th
* Social Security
* Spending
* Stem Cells
* Supreme Court
* Taxes
* Terrorism
* War On Drugs



[edit on 17-10-2007 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by MrKnight
Have any of you stop to realize that Ron Paul is the anti-war guy running in the pro-war party?

Well, lets just ignore that you have now labled the GOP, the 'pro war party' and lets run with your idea,

Is it worse that Guliani a Pro-choicer is the leader in the party that IS labled as a Pro-Life Party???

And when did the GOP become the pro-war party??? Explain, if you want, i think that is a very dangerous statement that you made.

Now, in other news, it is very likly that even if Paul wins the Primaries (which is no gaurente even if he wins, they can rig it) they COULD still shut him out, ala Rosevelt.

In my opinion i think Paul might be able to win as a 3rd party canidate, if Rudy was elected as the GOP nominee, mabye the population would wake up during the debates and realsie that there wouldn't be much of a diffrence between the ex-Governer of New York, and the Senator from New York, mabye the stench of BS would be so strong that if there was a legitimate 3rd option, people would go for it, just mabye, but this discusion is for down the road, about 6 months or so away, untl then, we can hope for Americans last chance to gain control, become even more popular.

Becasue he is, the more people are hearing about him, the more they like, and each passing day more people are hearing about him, and he can reach people that are anywhere on the political spectrum, doesn't matter if they are a leftist, or on the right, as long as they Love America (which is about 60-70% of the population now by my estimate).

So, get out there and spread the word. Do what ever it takes, when polotics come up, mention his name, becuase if you don't the media sure as (blank) won't. Just make a poster and hang it in a high traffic area, mabye you will inspire a few people, and then mabye one of those will do the same, and its a trikle down effect.

Ron Paul is now Officially Top-Tier



Romney, McCain, Tancredo, Huckabee, Hunter & Brownback are all officially sunk. Thompson is only a $Million ahead of Paul, and his campaign is nationally recognized as floundering. Giuliani is a cross-dressing Liberal who hasn't even won ONE SINGLE Straw Poll and doesn't even have ONE SINGLE Meetup.com activist group.

Thanks guys for posting the info on Ron Paul. Until today I didn't have the slighest idea of who Ron Paul is. After watching many videos from campaigns and various political discussions I decided to finally register today to vote. Ron Paul has my vote for sure. Thanks to everyone here in ATS for opening my eyes. I bet a lot of people also found out Ron Paul here on ATS.

Cheers!

on 10-12-07 Ron Paul Spoke on the washington journal. 6 minutes into the interview A question about the military was raised by a caller. Ron Pauls response has been edited out on all the videos of this interview on the net. I have not yet heard his reponse to the question asked of him. This is not theory anymore. Whats worse is that it has crossed the boundry of censoring political speech. The most dangerous and detramental form of censorship.

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Yes, check this thread for more information. They censored him without shame... its quite shocking actually. Guess he said something that was not OK for the public to hear...

When weaker nations are intimidated by more powerful ones, striking back very often can be done only through terrorism, a problem that will continue to threaten all Americans as our leaders incite those who oppose our aggressive stands throughout the world. But when a foreign war comes to our shores in the form of terrorism, we can be sure that our government will explain the need for further sacrifice of personal liberties to win this war against terrorism as well."
Dr. Ron Paul, April 21, 1999

Please read this through and watch a few links sometime today. There is a giant war going on right now between the corporate controlled media and the free, open, and unfiltered media of the internet. Ron Paul is a republican candidate for President who has built a broad base across the political spectrum. From right wing red state folks to bleeding heart blue liberals, many people have come to see Ron Paul as America’s only hope for a solid and stable future. The corporate “mainstream” media has responded by hiding online poll results from viewers, lying about how Ron Paul’s supporters are cheating, and even manipulating poll results. They are blowing off the results of 10,000/20,000 person polls in favor of 400 people phone polls. Many of these manipulations by the major networks have been documented on-line and I have included links below. I don’t care who wins this election…But if we don’t stop this media manipulation now….while we have a broad base of people who are focused on the issue…we may not have another chance for a long time. Even Dan “voice of the nightly news” Rather has just came out on national TV saying that our democracy won’t thrive, let alone survive, due to corporate manipulation in media. The manipulation we are allowing to happen in our own country.
Please spare a second for our future……..WATCH THESE VIDEO’S and Send Them Around. We have to wake each other up NOW!!!

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Well I heard the first radio commercial for a presidential candidate this morning and it was for Ron Paul!

Conservative talk radio station AM720 KDON of Las Vegas aired a Ron Paul commercial at 10:18AM this morning.

At the very moment I was listening to the commercial I drove past a Ron Paul Revolution sign tied to a chain link fence!

Been following Dr. Paul for years now and I am switching my party from Libertarian to Republican so I can vote in the primary.

reply to post by blahdiblah


exactly

Fantastic collection of information here in this thread!!! My parents, typically Republicans, are sick of the status quo and are now aware of Ron Paul. I've found that all it takes to warm someone up to R.Paul is to simply make them aware of the man.

Ron Paul's common-sense constitutionality is truly revolutionary. That's how twisted the national political construct is.

Other candidates quote "the great" presidents and founding fathers from afar (I always wait for lightening to strike during these moments) while Ron Paul is cut from the same cloth.

Egads! Who has the stones to say what he said in the last debate (CNBC): "All this talk about Iran is WAR PROPOGANDA". Amen brother.

Meanwhile, King George promotes his irresponsible "World War 3" national death wish.

I have no idea why anyone would believe a poll anyways. A Poll can be construed to represent whatever the Poll-Taker wishes it to represent. Keeping your ears to the street is where the true feelings are at. Off the Ron Paul subject, but in regards to Polls, there have been Polls stating that 65% or more of Americans are FOR Illegal Immigrant rights. Yet, everywhere I have gone, EVERYONE is against Illegals. Even other Legal Immigrants. Just goes to show how Polls are most often garbage.

I once received a phone call for a poll, and the second I replied with an answer they did not quite expect, they hung up on me. The same thing has happened to others as well. Bottom line, stop trusting or using polls.

My dad posted a link to this thread in his Ron Paul Meetup messageboard. There were zero replies and the moderator closed the thead?! Do they just not want to be associated with a "conspiracy" site? I can see how they would want to disance themselves because the average sheeple has been so conditioned to automatically reject alternate view points. In fact that's the whole point of modern education and group dynamics, thank you Tavistock Institute; to get people to go with the crowd even if they know it's wrong.

Originally posted by benjahbrubaker
When weaker nations are intimidated by more powerful ones, striking back very often can be done only through terrorism, a problem that will continue to threaten all Americans as our leaders incite those who oppose our aggressive stands throughout the world. But when a foreign war comes to our shores in the form of terrorism, we can be sure that our government will explain the need for further sacrifice of personal liberties to win this war against terrorism as well."
Dr. Ron Paul, April 21, 1999

Please read this through and watch a few links sometime today. There is a giant war going on right now between the corporate controlled media and the free, open, and unfiltered media of the internet. Ron Paul is a republican candidate for President who has built a broad base across the political spectrum. From right wing red state folks to bleeding heart blue liberals, many people have come to see Ron Paul as America’s only hope for a solid and stable future. The corporate “mainstream” media has responded by hiding online poll results from viewers, lying about how Ron Paul’s supporters are cheating, and even manipulating poll results. They are blowing off the results of 10,000/20,000 person polls in favor of 400 people phone polls. Many of these manipulations by the major networks have been documented on-line and I have included links below. I don’t care who wins this election…But if we don’t stop this media manipulation now….while we have a broad base of people who are focused on the issue…we may not have another chance for a long time. Even Dan “voice of the nightly news” Rather has just came out on national TV saying that our democracy won’t thrive, let alone survive, due to corporate manipulation in media. The manipulation we are allowing to happen in our own country.
Please spare a second for our future……..WATCH THESE VIDEO’S and Send Them Around. We have to wake each other up NOW!!!

Poll manipulation, bogus slanderous claims, or blowing off the results
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Amen brother.
And thanks for the links.
Just a reminder if you're reading this and NOT a registered Repub. your time is running out. Some states' cutoff to register is NOVEMBER. You must be registered Repub. in order to vote for RP.
Keep in mind, he is really a Libertarian, and a Constitutionalist, but that he is running as a Repub. in order to be kept from being shut out of the process like last time.
Re-register as whatever you like afterward.

The media can lie about Polls and such, but they can not lie about Money!. Ron Paul is receiving real campaign dollars which cannot be ignored.