John Lear on Souls

On Souls

The secret government knows about this experiment but is hiding it from us.

This experiment has something to do with the soul. The aliens refer to us as containers. There is a cube on the Moon with an antenna. The antenna sends and receives souls.

If someone dies an unscheduled death the antenna doesn't pick up their soul and the resulting energy remains on Earth as a ghost.

When there is a major disaster like 911 the aliens send down giant soul collectors to recover the souls.

Increase in homosexuality is caused by the cube placing male souls in female bodies and vice versa. This is either by design or there is a fault with the cube.

Mariners are called 'lost souls' because if you die underwater the aliens can't retrieve the soul through water of any depth.

I am not sure all of this is true. But quite possible and needs further analysis and investigation.

About the Soul

All I can say for sure is that the soul is a particle that can be trapped or controlled. And Aliens have the technology to do that. That is how they are able to travel from billions of miles to anywhere. They know how to transport the soul from one end of the universe to another.

As in the case of Tachyons or Neutrinos which have no mass or negligible mass, the souls can attain speed near to or even greater than speed of light.

This is not something that has been proved yet primarily because if anything goes beyond the speed of light it may travel into a different time dimension and where we cannot detect it.

About Ghosts

I agree with John with regards to Ghosts. I have similar ideas as his long time back and posted my views on some of the spiritual forums. But such views are always debunked and laughed away.

Let me analyze this. If a soul particle leaves a body and does not reach into another body or unite with GOD, what happens is that it travels at speed greater than light and enters a different time space where it can visualize the events, the people and life in that time space but not interfere with it unless it has certain properties.

What I mean to say is that Ghosts are soul particles alright. But they come from another Time Space after leaving the body of a person in that Time Space and entering our Time Space. The source Time Space is most certainly the past and that is why we say ghosts come to haunt us from the past.

Alien Interference with our Souls (as in 911)

Not sure about this theory but they do have the technology to harvest souls.

Souls and Homosexuality

The word “Cube” used by John is what I call as “God”. It is not dependent on Aliens though nor is it a physical body or object. Yes, the soul determines our personality and just as every particle has a positive and negative part, the soul COULD have a female / male spin. And when the wrong type of soul particle enters a living being it can cause aberrations such as homosexuality.

About non-retrieval of Mariner Souls

It could be true that souls (which is neutrino like) get trapped in water bodies (the way scientists trap neutrinos using chlorine tanks). But I believe that this happens rarely as the soul travels too fast once it is released from a body to be obstructed by anything. In fact Neutrinos are known to travel through planets as if nothing exists. But some Neutrinos do get trapped by Water especially if there is chlorine.

What the aliens might be doing is that they come to know about the trapped souls and try and harvest it. For them souls are probably as good as gold.

So you know all of this? Where do you get your information from?

Well, I have a father which has actually had contact with souls and what you're saying is in my view very far from the reality. And btw, I don't believe someone can control your soul or imprison it, I have even taken a peak outside my body myself once.

But I like that you share your ideas, and none of us can know who is really right, so sorry if I seemed negative.

[edit on 2007/10/9 by TrappedSoul]

This is actually something I do not believe at all, but of course believing or disbelieving is up to each person when it comes to things like this.


[edit on 9-10-2007 by Copernicus]

I agree personal experiences are just 100% believable by themselves and others will find it difficult to understand or believe.

If you ask me personally what my beliefs are, I keep it simple. I think there is GOD and goodness in all of us and I just stick to that and go about my worldly life.

The theories I propose are philosophical in nature not scientific.

Maybe I am wrong but it is fun to explore all ideas and encourage everyone to contribute.

You ever felt like, how it was or is weird for you to be in a body, realizing that you have toes which was weird, and you can be able to move them?

I don't know.

[edit on 9-10-2007 by TheoOne]

No.

Frankly I had never had any weird incident in my entire life and yet I feel strongly about these issues.

Originally posted by guyfrom2007
Increase in homosexuality is caused by the cube placing male souls in female bodies and vice versa. This is either by design or there is a fault with the cube.

What increase in homosexuality? Increase in visibility due to it being de-criminalised..... Yes. But I've never ever seen any evidence of homosexuality itself increasing, simply because of the attitudes towards it socially, culturally and historically would make it so difficult to accurately quantify - in other words, not all homosexuals are open about it.

So how dose the 'cube' know when to send a soul catcher for each individuals death?

Does it mean that our deaths are pre-prepared and are counting down on a big clock?

If that's the case, then surely when some poor kid gets hit by a car that slipped and skidded on some ice, due to no fault of the driver then his death is not natural.

If a man falls off a cliff whilst climbing it, does that count as natural?

What about gun or knife victims (not natural) compared to a man killed by say a shark (natural?)....

I think there's a big hole in this theory.

Why do you keep posting topics about "John Lear on..."? How about we have your opinion? Not to be offensive or anything, but there is an entire section for John Lear on here, where all of his theories are discussed already.

Originally posted by sensfan
Why do you keep posting topics about "John Lear on..."? How about we have your opinion? Not to be offensive or anything, but there is an entire section for John Lear on here, where all of his theories are discussed already.

That's a VERY GOOD question. What's the point pf this?

Springer...

So how dose the 'cube' know when to send a soul catcher for each individuals death?

Let me try and solve this mystery. But I cannot assure of satisfying everyone

First, I do not call the soul catcher "cube". That is what John Lear calls it.

And as per my theory, there is no cube or anything that goes about catching souls.

Here is my theory.

We all have a particle trapped inside our body that we commonly refer to as the "Soul".

I equate the properties of this "Soul" particle to that of as Neutrino like. Neutrino is a particle that is all around and something has almost zero mass and pass through any object or body or mass.

I am not saying the "Soul" is a "Neutrino". I am saying it is "Neutrino Like"

Now when a person dies naturally or violently, the "Soul" particle is released and then it speeds away faster than light into the future (some would claim this is not possible as by present scientific theories, anything that would speed faster than light would go into the past. But I don't think this has been also proven by anyone. It is also another theory just like mine.)

So once the "Soul" particle speeds away into the future, it gets trapped into the first sign of life in the womb of a pregnant women it encounters.

This is common. But then sometimes as with all other things in nature, some "Soul" particles develop strange properties (because of violent death or other memories) as a result of which it gets heavier and does not attain "Faster than light" speed and hence remains trapped in the present and become "Ghosts".

And when a "Soul" particle attains enlightment (after doing good deeds in every lifetime) it attains a speed so great that it gets out of the Life Body orbit and joins the omnipresent energy source which I call as "GOD" and then the "Soul" particle does not need a body to live.

This is my theory. And I wish this is true. Part of this theory is based on readings from ancient myths and manuscripts and partly based on my philosophical thoughts.

Very cool theories
Now why dont you answer Spingers and others questions?

and..... everyone leave the moderating to us

That's a VERY GOOD question. What's the point pf this?

Hi,

It is nice to see you visit this post and post your comment.

I was taken by the "Shock and Awe Campaign" of the honorable John Lear. And I have the highest regard for him.

I used his name to start threads to focus attention and provide support to his theories in general and also focus attention on my own which are closer to Mr. Lear's than say others who research the same topics.

I understand some people have got upset as the "Guyfrom2007" word is spread like graffiti all over along with "John Lear" on ATS.

My apologies.

Very cool theories. Why dont you answer Springer and others?

I will try to do that. I am father and also work. And I cannot spend my entire day on ATS. And I live in India so there is also the time difference.

Right now it is 11.30pm and I have tell my kid a bed time story and then get back to ATS to reply to some of the q&a.

Thanks!

In addition....

Your information is incorrect and out of date. For example, John retracted the Mariners souls not being retrieved. He thought that they could not be collected from deep water but has since changed his mind and all souls can be collected. I believe this was in light of information from sleeper.


[edit on 9/10/07 by Prote]

Originally posted by Prote
In addition....

Your information is incorrect and out of date. For example, John retracted the Mariners souls not being retrieved. He thought that they could not be collected from deep water but has since changed his mind and all souls can be collected. I believe this was in light of information from sleeper.
[edit on 9/10/07 by Prote]

So in effect.... one fairystory gets updated by another fairystory?

Do we have any updates on the forests and waterfalls on the far side of the moon yet, or is it Autumn now?

Thanks for updating me on the marines angle. I am very very new to ATS. I started posting on ATS about a couple of weeks back.

Prior to that I had not enough time from my routine full time assignment to ponder on UFOs and Aliens.

I am working on a project at a very senior executive and this project is on the Internet and if my firm succeeds (which I wish it does not) there would be no anonymity on the Net. It will become history and Mr. Bush can know what you are doing online anytime all the time.

Also I did not have a net connection at home.

I came to John Lear only yesterday on coast2coast with Geroge noory and this person I had only heard faintly (about a lear test. Is he the same guy?)

And today, I spend the entire day doing research on him and at the end of this
research I felt, I need to talk on some of this theories.

And I have put it here...So I am not an expert on John Lear and wish him well in his pursuits. To make and retract statements maybe.

I got interested by his theories because coincidently they are similar to my own theories but I wanted to present my angle on the same.





[edit on 9-10-2007 by guyfrom2007]

Originally posted by TrappedSoul
So you know all of this? Where do you get your information from?

Well, I have a father which has actually had contact with souls and what you're saying is in my view very far from the reality. And btw, I don't believe someone can control your soul or imprison it, I have even taken a peak outside my body myself once.

But I like that you share your ideas, and none of us can know who is really right, so sorry if I seemed negative.

[edit on 2007/10/9 by TrappedSoul]

At last some sanity.
This Soul Catcher rubbish is ridiculous. They can manipulate us and control us on this planet but there's no way that our spirit can be messed with. Do these twits know what our souls are, do they know what the sum of all our souls joined together is ? It's called the Great Spirit, The Divine Matrix or GOD if you like. If we pass out of body into spirit knowingly and totally aware of who and what we are there's no way anyone can ha ha hee haw ha ha ha ha ha "catch" our spirit like some hamster in a cage and shove us into another "container" what a load of bollocks!!!
I'm not religious at all but I've been around long enough and researched and experimented with my spirit in AND OUT of my body enough to know that once I'm out of this bag of flesh I'm autonomous, as long as I'm connected to the Divine Matrix [as Braden calls it] i.e.. Maybe if a soul has never believed in its spirituality and is totally confused and lost, DISCONNECTED from the Big Spirit, maybe then the Reptilian scumbags can get their little lackies, the Greys to do their dirty work for them. NOT if we leave our bodies in full knowledge of who we are and where we want to go. This concept seems to be aligned with the concept of what the Church says. If we die denying the existence of a Great Spirit we're vulnerable to the guy with the pitch fork. With scales, a tail and reptile looking eyes hmmmm maybe the Reptilians are what the religious call the devil ? Yeah I think I've stumbled onto something, suddenly the concept of "The Devil" doesn't seem so ridiculous.
An Epiphany has struck me, it all makes sense now.

The Theory ,that Mr Lear is spreading, kinda sounds like Scientology...
John Lear interests me.I feel ,why would a man tarnish his upstanding name if there wasn't something true to his story.