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Please help, my mom is in a coverup/conspiracy

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posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:01 PM
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Sorry for your situation
However can we go back to one point that seems to have been lost - you had information on your mother PC and now thats dissapearing ? or did i read that wrong ?

Nothing but nothing on a PC is erased totally without a full deep level Format - if you still have the PC I would suggest you fine a reputable and secure PC tech to take a look at the HD - believe you what can be recovered can be amazing - the law enforcement ./ nat sec guys can do it and i used to scare people with a cheap copy of Dr Solomons very ofton.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:04 PM
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VERY good point Silk!!!

I would recomend that as well... If you are somewhat computer savvy you can do a little research online for programs that can recover lost, damaged or previously deleted data from hard drives. Or as Silk said, find someone you can trust and have them do it...



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:10 PM
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All I can say is Never Give Up The Fight.

Even though it looks bleek, I'd press on. It sounds a lot like my mother's situation, though a little more serious.

My mother was injured at a Remington Gun Barrel plant. She had reported the equiptment that she was using as being faulty and needing a specific part replaced. A co-worker also reported the same thing. The equiptment failed and jerked my mother's shoulder out of socket. It's never been the same since. She' in constant pain. She's had surgery, but that still hasn't helped her. She was fired because of something with a doctor's visit and leave. She's hired attorneys that were gung-ho from the get go and a couple weeks into presenting all her documentation and consulting with Remington the lawyer flip-flopped his opinion saying, "She has no case." Even though, simple neglience would seem obvious.

It's as though the lawyers, insurance companies, doctors, and judges are all paid off by Remington. Each lawyer she's hired has been all for the case when they took it up and then after consultation with Remington, backed down. Same with doctors. Every one she's visited on her own tells her she's not able to function and her should, arm and neck have practically disabled her to the point of not being able to work normal job functions (she can barely wash dishes). But all the ones that Remington sends her to say that she's fine and able to go back to work. Welcome to the world of Capitalist non-universal health care.


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posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:26 PM
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Thanks to everyone for your response and ideas. Between here and the prisonplanet forums I'm kind of overwhelmed with ideas and opinions. Again, Thank you all!

So far I have got nothing else form the LA Times, and nothing from any other media I emailed. I will give it a few days, and in the mean time try to compile something I can take to them in person.
We are not sure exactly why they targeted my mom. We think that they think she knows more than she does. I'm not sure if she still has her computer, but I know we have lots of the emails and documents printed out.
Here is some more accurate information I got from her about it:
First she went to her union SEIU Local 1997
The Grievance review committee voted unanimously to back her.
Later The Regional director (Rebecca Miller) of the union and senior staff specialist (Gary Snyder) disappeared. (the names may be switched with respect to their title)
We received a letter from new director, stating they could not back her.
The union and the city were supposed to meet to pick the arbirator, it was after the union left her that the arbitrator was picked by we assume the city.
Now I got some details on the lawyer wrong. We had a lawyer who was very interested in the case, but we didnt have any money, so he couldnt help us. He also mentioned how it appeared to be a lost cause, and how the city would do whatever they could to stall it and it could take years to sort out.
That whole deal was involving her being fired from her job, NOT the sexual harassment. She has not filed anything concerning the sexual harassment.
We have been told that the statute of limitations has run out for most of the case, but we can still get the cheif on sexual harassment since no case has been filed yet.

I haven't gone to the FBI yet. My mom is sure she wants to fight this. So I'm going to focus on getting what I can out to the media, and try to set up something incase things get really bad.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 05:45 PM
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i hope it all works out for both of you
just be very careful and do not trust anybody you have met about this problem.
lawyers and the media only care about money, nothing else.


good luck friend


chickenfeet



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by 1337cshacker

I stand by my vigilante post. DO IT, unleash the fury.



I don't know if I would unleash the Fury of a Family, against a city/towns 'paramilitary' or police/swat team. its a lose lose situation. if you kick the local cops asses them come the federalies.

you DO NOT want ATF/FBI/DHS deciding that you are a threat... or worse... a terrorist.

If you fight a battle against your government your going to have to utilize your mind.

Did you ever think about running for local political office? orrrrr... Get your mom to... The best way to affect change in your world is to take power.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 08:10 PM
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I saw where someone said the nearest FBI office could be corrupted somehow. Although anythings possible I wouldn't think the odds are very good for that. Going to the FBI is a good idea.

As for the media being corrupt, that is why it's important to contact larger agencies where they can't be bought off by a dirty little town government. Same with a reputable LA lawyer.

Now, regarding the ACLU, well, I'll reserve comment on that organization.

So often the little guy gets squashed because they are up against allegedly reputable people with years of pats on the back. Official public office guys dressed in suits and knowing how to work them. Often the little guy ends up looking unbalanced and pitiful. That's exactly what they're going for.

Where's that chick with the big rack they made that movie about when you need her?

Dude, fight the good fight! I for one am behind you.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 08:19 PM
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screw the media man - at least mainstream media.

honestly, it sounds like you have tried (almost exhausted) all other routes - have you considered putting all the evidence together into a 20 minute movie, and uploading to youtube or etc?

I mean, the only way the media really picks this stuff up, is after it get's a buzz first anyways. Sad, but seems to be true. With all of the other people out there that are concerned about these types of things (not just on ATS) if produced properly, it has the potential to get more exposure - especially if it's still a recent case.

u2u sent.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by coven
I don't know if I would unleash the Fury of a Family, against a city/towns 'paramilitary' or police/swat team. its a lose lose situation. if you kick the local cops asses them come the federalies.

It is futile yes, I would go down with honor and take as many as I could, as long as they were the people who conspired against me only, and maybe even that guy who accepted the bribe to kick me out of my apartment. For great justice.

Originally posted by coven
you DO NOT want ATF/FBI/DHS deciding that you are a threat... or worse... a terrorist.

If you fight a battle against your government your going to have to utilize your mind.

I did not say not to, If done correctly, its a win situation. While your at it, you pull the ultimate heist and move to a diff country with mills in swiss bank.

Originally posted by coven
Did you ever think about running for local political office? orrrrr... Get your mom to... The best way to affect change in your world is to take power.

Become a rent-a-cop, change the world.
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Of course everyone can see I'm sarcastic about it all at this point. What are you going to do but move on about it and get back on track?

[edit on 4-10-2007 by 1337cshacker]



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 09:54 PM
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56, my friend, I recommend the following:

Due to the state of the union, it would be wise to use the corruption for your advantage.

Please tell me the mayor, senator, and layers(s) names, and positions. I'll see if I can make a connection, and put this together.

It may be wise to try and make contact with a corrupt senator. The funny thing is, you can buy them for less then a prostitute. With a few hundred, you could probably get him/her to listen. If there is money involve, their eyes will open up like it's the forth of July. Being that it's statistics, it probably doesn't go up so far, but if you could find out the senator or mayor's names, I could probably point out his enemy corrupt senator to do you bidding.

Ain't it fun when senators are so cheap?



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 10:21 PM
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My guess some kind of money misappropriation maybe connected here to the chief and mayor. Power to end an attorneys defense in a case as this, has to be from a source that is very powerful and well connected. The power to have a rental terminated has to be from a source that can manipulate many reasons to persuade a rental agent to jump when ordered to evict. I thought you must have 30 days on an eviction and an injunction filed should have helped stop the eviction.

I know how helpless one can feel when all the powers have it in for you.



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 11:10 PM
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I've been through part of this too. From a legal standpoint, initially, each of these issues have to be handled independently. Only at the end, can it be combined for a final strike against them.

Since you are in Hemet, CA, listen to KFI 640 AM, Bill Handel in the morning is a lawyer and gives free legal advice early Sat Morn. His website at handleonthelaw.com has legal referals.

You do everything in writing, clear, to the point, and assume they don't know anything about your case so spell it out in each correspondence as though you are talking to a child, because you are.

1) you can be fired at anytime for any reason. If they give you a formal reason, such as "fired for incompetence", that gets sent to the Unemployement agency and they automatically believe the employer, especially another governmental agency. You must ALWAYS, respond back in writing and APPEAL. Claim your rights under the "Whistler Blower Act", Calif. and Feds have one. Send a summary to everyone on the city's board, fire board, and county.

2) Since you were a union employee, you got a hearing, from the Union. Your crime was you were trying to stop additional fire stations and additional union workers from getting jobs. This is why you lost. Again, respond back in writing and APPEAL. Claim your rights under the "Whistler Blower Act", Calif. and Feds have one. Ask for you union dues back for unfair practices. Then forward all of this to their upper level union, AFL-CIO / mafia / costa nostra groups. (union called me telling me they were going to burn my house down, they are not nice guys).

3) Make sure of your facts on the eviction (assuming a rental unit?), then you should of had a lease with a set of rules, start date, end date, holdover, and rental amount. The only reason that someone can kick you out of a rental unit is if you are determined an nuisance or hazard to others in the neighborhood (usually applies to drug dealers). If you met all of the criteria of a valid lease, you should be golden unless they made you sign somesort of release when leaving. California tenant laws are pro-tenant and you should win easily, have them pay for your move, get back your deposite, etc.

4) Call the State Agency who handles whistleblowing and file a written complaint. this is the tough one.

5)Call the State Agency who handles sexual harrassment and file a written complaint. They will call the employer and try for a settlement. Was the IP address from the persons personal HOME email? if so, try and find out that it was that person. If it was the city's email, then you got him good since they have their own block of computer ip addresses.

Since most agencys are overloaded and have limited investigative abilities, you have to do the investigation, and write up the executive summary and back it up with how you did the analysis, play detective and everything in WRITING.

Dont' try and get your job back, it never works, just screw them over and get satisfaction from that.

GOOD LUCK, GET THE BASTARDS...



posted on Oct, 4 2007 @ 11:43 PM
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What I would do if it were me is I would try to find out who this big guy is behind everything and take the street justice route. If you live in LA Im sure there are plenty of people out there for a couple hundred bucks would find them ductape them up and talk some sense into them and you would be fine after that. Thats just what I would do because I lived the street life for a couple years and that was the only way I ever got things done. Not reccomending you to do it but just throwing it out there.

-Big Jely


56

posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 12:01 AM
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Agian I say I am overwhelmed with ideas, go to media, go to fbi, scan evidence, make a video...I see this is going to be far more difficult than I thought and take longer than I thought.
I've emailed media, now its just to wait for them to respond. As far as scanning evidence and possibly making a video of it, I know there are a lot of papers to go through, so it will take a while to do that. I definatly want to get some parts of it to put up here for some of you to look at. I'll see what I can do about that.
In the mean time, If any of you want to look into the city you can go to www.cityofhemet.org...
www.hemetgeneralplan.net...
As of now, the police chief is acting as the fire chief. My mom worked around most everyone in city hall, police and fire. She also worked with the city council setting up meeting and taking minutes. She mentioned how they would vote for their own pay raise, and how the homless taskforce paid more for food at their meeting then the entire budget to help the homeless!!!

From now on anything I do I will document, starting will all the posts in this thread. Taking them one by one learning as much as I can as to what to do and the entire situation.
Thanks and keep it up, this has recieved far more attention than I ever thought it would here.



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 12:24 AM
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your in a small city where everyone is 'bubba' and you probably aint gonna get anywhere.
go to a bigger city where they like news scoops. NEWS: " Lady and child evicted over...."

Thats that. Dont rely on anyone in that small town. You dont scratch their back, they sure aint scratching yours.

Hope you guys find a home.

Peace

dAlen



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 12:27 AM
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Hey, I don't know jack all about American Agency's etc.. Obviously. because I live in New Zealand.

Anyway, What I have to say to you, is this is welcomed here, as shown with members posts.. Well, this is a really interesting story, What I think you should do, little suggestion, is make copies of the evidence if you haven't already, make sure you keep it in places you remember, some at a friends perhaps? Who knows? Anywhere where you know they won't look if they attempt too. seeing as we don't know what these people are capable of.

Thats all I got. Make evidence as safe as possible! Which I'm sure you are intelligent enough yourself to have done already.


And score one for the home team and take them out.



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 12:33 AM
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I agree with dallen, I lived in east LA when I was a kid. (Lower alabama that is). Small towns "don't take kindly to meh folk". Heh, I think going to media won't do anything more than the media approaching these people and asking "hey guys, is this so?" They would just be like "Pfff... Aint so". Thats the media option. I still see two realistic options.

A: Get mob to Hit them, or you hit them.
B: Move on and get over it.



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 12:40 AM
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A funny thing, I started a topic here in the "secret society forum"problem lodge" talking about some dumb ass Masons.
I am a Mason myself and really like the fraternity in spite of these bozos. These guys attempted to slander me in the town where they are, but it just made them look worse.
Anyway, if you google "problem lodge", its right on top and brings you here. So, if you tittled a post Hemit California and spelled out whats happening to you, anyone typing Hemit Ca. in to google will hear all about it. and the top town clowns will probably freak out, either solve it or kill you all.
Knowing small town dynamics, the situation with the fire dept, involves the whole nasty little town.
Do not resort to violence under any circumstance!

[edit on 5-10-2007 by HDFACTORYCERTIF]



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 01:16 AM
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I can't really offer advice to you simply for the fact that you are the one who is living this, not me. Besides, sounds like you are getting enough from everyone else

From what it sounds like, your mom and possibly you have been targeted by somebody or a group of somebodys. I am listing this site
gangstalkingworld.com... because it sounds very similar to what you are describing.

As far as other people telling you to fight it, take their advice and do what you want. They are not the ones living through your ordeal. It is very easy for people to say "fight to the end" or "I would do this and that if it were me", but the point is they aren't you and may not understand how mentally draining and emotional this is for the two of you. They are not the ones who will have to live with the choices that the two of you make. Sometimes, as hard as it is, we have to accept the things we cannot change. Am I saying you cannot change the situation, heck no. I'm just saying give yourself an escape plan. If it isn't working by a certain date, maybe you should move on.

So if you fight it, great, I wish you the best.
If you decide to take your losses and start anew, then I also wish you the best.

The website I sent you above has experiences that are very similar to what you describe, and are happening to people all over the country. Hang in there, and if you are a spiritual person, pray about it. It really does help.



[edit on 5-10-2007 by sir_chan]



posted on Oct, 5 2007 @ 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by 1337cshacker
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Of course everyone can see I'm sarcastic about it all at this point. What are you going to do but move on about it and get back on track?

[edit on 4-10-2007 by 1337cshacker]



I figured that... But there are young impressionable minds here
sadly some don't get sarcasm...

I'd hate to hear a fellow ats'er got offed for trying to 'stand up to da man' especially gun power wise.


Sorry if you thought I was being critical... I just come here cuz I'm bored





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