North American Union Police in California, have they arrived?

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I think white america is forgetting that they themselves are illegal immigrants, they are great grandfathers stole this land from native americans.

No, you little ignorant child, my ancestors are not illegal immigrants. They came over here legally from Ireland and Italy, smart one.

Do not make such idiotic assumptions again.

Originally posted by Bigjely
I found this one that i think defcon was talking about, except that it is called Critical Information Services. They have a uniform and the cars that look just like the police, and are even trained in anti terrorism tactics. www.cisworldservices.org...

Yep, those are the guys I was talking about, good find.
I guess I was a bit off on the name though, as its “Critical Intervention Services” not “Crisis Intervention Services”. Still look through that site, those guys are about as Police/Military looking of a security company as I have ever seen.

Man, some of you are really paranoid. There isnt a conspirancy behind each corner. Please take your prozac® and calm down. IF there is such a thing coming like NAU Police Force, it wont be happend on a small city. It will happend across the country sychronically

[edit on 4-10-2007 by mallory-john]

Originally posted by screamintrucker

and what gives you the right to state who should have rights?
Every human life on this planet should have the same rights. Not every human is capable of following all laws made by other humans; or even understanding them.

If people weren't so greedy; materialistic and egotistical. They would see that every human was born free to explore the world he or she is born in; without having to worry about a "visa". I couldnt give a rats ass if I was working with someone who is "Illegal". He wont affect me in any way that I will care.

First, I do agree that ALL humans should have and share a basic set of rights.
I believe any illegal alien in this country should have the right to due process.

I also believe that your comment about
"I couldnt give a rats ass if I was working with someone who is "Illegal". He wont affect me in any way that I will care."
is absurd. Sorry to say but illegal aliens are a major problem in this country. Let me explain why.

A number of my friends have lost their jobs to illegal aliens. Then they lost their homes. Hard working, honest people are now destitute. Families homeless. Parents who can no longer pay for health care for their own children because they lost their jobs to illegals.

You see, people who are here legally, pay taxes. Illegals are paid cash under the table and usually below minimum wage. This creates a new low cost to deliver a job. Now the people here legally either must somehow take the pay the illegal is taking or lose their jobs to them. But wait, they can't legally work at that wage, as the employer must pay minimum wages and matching taxes for each employee.
The fact that you can be so myopic about life to state, "since it doesn't affect you, you don't care", is to say the least sad. So unless something directly affects you, you simply don't care. What a crappy attitude.

Originally posted by jfj123
You see, people who are here legally, pay taxes. Illegals are paid cash under the table and usually below minimum wage. This creates a new low cost to deliver a job.

I am not an illegal immigrant and i've been payed several times under the table. Feels great not to have the govt. take a piece of your pie.

I will also continue to find more side jobs where i get payed under the table. Every type of person gets payed under the table, not only illegal immigrants my friend. In fact, in alot of under the table jobs you will find students working there, maybe white american students, not illegals.

Originally posted by Johnmike
No, you little ignorant child, my ancestors are not illegal immigrants. They came over here legally from Ireland and Italy, smart one.

Do not make such idiotic assumptions again.

hmmmm, If you took any history classes you'll learn that the majority of white americans come from Europe. This isn't a secret, it's history.

If your ancestors came here legally than you very simply aren't related to the comment I made... now you can calm down.

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Johnmike, Don't get angry at him. He has a right to be pissed off. Long before Europeans stepped foot on this land there was already a colony possesing this land. The Europeans came here and were befriended by the natives. They made peace treaties with each other. It it was not for the natives the europeans would not have even made it past the first winter.
Peace was in the words of the Europeans but war was in their heart. They poisoned the rivers, and killed Women and children when the men were away hunting. They massacred the indians to an amount which makes the holocaust seem like a small number. Then they made holidays to remember their victory. They took the natives descendants and placed them in ghettos called reservations on Their OWN land.
Then they went to west africa and brought negroes here against their will through slavery and built up America on the blood of little negro boys, girls, and men and women.

Then they set up a "justice" system on stolen land, and call O.J. a murderer, and set up police forces, f.b.i agencies to catch murders and theives when this very land was gained through murder and theivery.

Then they want to call mexicans immigrants, and tell negros to go back "home", or better yet can't UNDERSTAND why these people are angry.

Johnmike, they treated the Irish the same, they were also brought here to serve slavery and were called 'n-word's right along with the negro. Johnmike, I'll bet my dollars that you could very well be a NEGRO yourself because it was the moores(negro men) who conquered ireland, and italy and planted their sperm in all the women there. They are 'n-word's too and this land which belongs to the Native Americans who are their brothers, have the blood of negroes and irish men all in it's soil.

In case you people don't see it yet. There's going to be a MAJOR race riot in America. It's going to be all minorites against ALL caucasions. Now we all know that the frontline in the armies are all puerto ricans and blacks, and we know that the best in the boxing rings, and UFC rings are puerto ricans, blacks, cubans...etc. So I hope in that day you europeans have that same exact attitude that you did against the mexicans in that video. Because it's going to be an ass kicking holiday. And those cops aren't going to do ANYTHING. They are going to be chased just like they were in New Orleans during the flood. They ALL put their badges down, and get the HELL outa dodge.

Originally posted by screamintrucker
I am confused. Maybe its because I am an American. I also am confused why anyone would ever say that the Americans were acting like idiots and that the Mexicans should "triple slap" them. This is AMERICA! If it was MEXICO then I would agree with you.

The americans were acting like complete idiots, look at the video.
First they protest or picket wtv you want to call it, then a mexicans comes around in front of them with a mexican flag and those idiots scream "arrest him, arrest him". That's not stupid?

Arrest him for what? What law did he break?

How in the world was that not a stupid comment?

Then some other dude with white sunglasses on wanted to fight a mexican who just wanted to debate and he started making racist comments.

Yes alot of them should be slapped for that.

Originally posted by screamintrucker
Its already too late for a solution, so maybe we should invite a revolution! Im locked and loaded! I am also sick and tired of ilegal aliens having rights in this country at all. But since the US gov ignores the problem lets fix it with blood, ,our gov does it all of the time vietnam, iraq, grenada etc. The only people who should have any rights in this country are citezens and visitors on a visa.

So humans should have no rights? wow!

You can't expect people like minorities who get treated horribly over here to forget that most of the people who say this is their country......invaded this country!

Even if it's too late to do anything about it, people cannot forget it especially when people like you try to take their rights away from them.

You are tired of illegals having rights? You should not worry about them and be more concerned with your country invaded another country every tuesday.

Those protesters don't even know what they are fighting for.

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Please tell me that post was a joke, because I'm laughing my arse off right now. If you're not joking, you obviously have NO idea what you're talking about. The military is made up of people from EVERY race, not just blacks and puerto ricans. In New Orleans, blacks victimized...well, mostly other blacks. And boxing? Boxing is a game and has NOTHING to do with real life, in fact the average boxer may have less advantage in a "race war" because there are no rules, padded gloves, or refs. They'd be kinda screwed in a no holds barred race war, calling for the guy clubbing them with a baseball bat to be disqualified. Sorry, the "negroes" and puerto ricans would have NO advantage based on their skin color, and the funniest part is that my guess is you're posting AGAINST racism, oh the irony.

edit: OJ was ACQUITTED!!! "They" can call him a murderer, which he is, all they want but the justice system failed and let him off. Jesus.

[edit on 4-10-2007 by 27jd]

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what in the world are you talking about?
that made no sense
and what isrealite said is correct
he made way more sense than you

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
hmmmm, If you took any history classes you'll learn that the majority of white americans come from Europe. This isn't a secret, it's history.

If your ancestors came here legally than you very simply aren't related to the comment I made... now you can calm down.

Your comment was sweeping and accused all of "white America" of being descended from illegal immigrants, which is very untrue.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
I think white america is forgetting that they themselves are illegal immigrants, they are great grandfathers stole this land from native americans.

My great grandfathers were nothing of the sort and did nothing of the sort.

Originally posted by Israelite
Johnmike, Don't get angry at him. He has a right to be pissed off. Long before Europeans stepped foot on this land there was already a colony possesing this land. The Europeans came here and were befriended by the natives. They made peace treaties with each other. It it was not for the natives the europeans would not have even made it past the first winter.
Peace was in the words of the Europeans but war was in their heart. They poisoned the rivers, and killed Women and children when the men were away hunting. They massacred the indians to an amount which makes the holocaust seem like a small number. Then they made holidays to remember their victory. They took the natives descendants and placed them in ghettos called reservations on Their OWN land.

You've made a sweeping generalization. First off, many natives were treated horribly, especially those who ended up being "found" by the Spanish. What happened in North America isn't as bad (not that I defend it). See, the natives, for the most part, had no concept of owning the land. They didn't see themselves as its owner, so they "sold" it (maybe more accurately described as agreeing to move as opposed to a sale) either for tiny sums of money or just had it "taken" by Europeans. Not all Europeans were violent toward the natives. The European colonization of the Americas, like all colonization and other imperialism, could be loosely described as evil, but you have to understand how it happened and not exaggerate things.

Originally posted by Israelite
Then they went to west africa and brought negroes here against their will through slavery and built up America on the blood of little negro boys, girls, and men and women.

Well, slavery is a horrible practice, and I'm thankful that it's widespread usage has died. But you do have to realize that Europeans actually bought slaves from other (black, for the most part) Africans, as opposed to enslaving them themselves. Doesn't make it any more right, but again, you have to know how it happened. Though I guess ownership of the slaves' descendants counts as enslavement, in a way.

Originally posted by Israelite
Then they set up a "justice" system on stolen land, and call O.J. a murderer, and set up police forces, f.b.i agencies to catch murders and theives when this very land was gained through murder and theivery.

The past already happened, we can't do anything about it. The United States is a great nation, no matter how you look at it (note: great does not mean perfect), and we can't all just...pick up and leave. This nation is here, and we have to make the best of it. I consider myself, not Irish, not Italian, but American.

Originally posted by Israelite
Then they want to call mexicans immigrants, and tell negros to go back "home", or better yet can't UNDERSTAND why these people are angry.

I welcome any Mexican that comes here legally.

I do not welcome any Mexican who comes here illegally.

Originally posted by Israelite
Johnmike, they treated the Irish the same, they were also brought here to serve slavery and were called 'n-word's right along with the negro. Johnmike, I'll bet my dollars that you could very well be a NEGRO yourself because it was the moores(negro men) who conquered ireland, and italy and planted their sperm in all the women there. They are 'n-word's too and this land which belongs to the Native Americans who are their brothers, have the blood of negroes and irish men all in it's soil.

Uh, what?

I don't know what you're talking about the negroes who conquered Ireland or whatever, but no, my ancestors were not here as slaves. I've never heard of any Irish slaves in America, really.

And no, the United States does not belong to the Native Americans any more than it belongs to me or any other citizen.

Originally posted by Israelite
In case you people don't see it yet. There's going to be a MAJOR race riot in America. It's going to be all minorites against ALL caucasions. Now we all know that the frontline in the armies are all puerto ricans and blacks, and we know that the best in the boxing rings, and UFC rings are puerto ricans, blacks, cubans...etc. So I hope in that day you europeans have that same exact attitude that you did against the mexicans in that video. Because it's going to be an ass kicking holiday. And those cops aren't going to do ANYTHING. They are going to be chased just like they were in New Orleans during the flood. They ALL put their badges down, and get the HELL outa dodge.

I am not a European, I am an American.

I don't see any race riot coming either, I think that's really an argument from ignorance, especially to say that we couldn't fight it.

I neither feel nor carry any guilt nor burden for anything that was done in the past. I am an American, and nothing but, and refuse to cave to those who want me to feel guilt for something I never had any part of. This is my nation; I do, to the best of my ability, try to make it a more perfect nation, and will defend it and its Constitution with my life if necessary. No matter how it was founded, the United States of America is here to stay - and I encourage you all to be a part of it, to make it better for our children, as opposed to holding racial grudges and other bigotry.

[edit on 4-10-2007 by Johnmike]

I am not an illegal immigrant and i've been payed several times under the table. Feels great not to have the govt. take a piece of your pie.

I will also continue to find more side jobs where i get payed under the table. Every type of person gets payed under the table, not only illegal immigrants my friend. In fact, in alot of under the table jobs you will find students working there, maybe white american students, not illegals.

I think you're missing my point. You see, illegals take american jobs because they will do them cheaper. They are here ILLEGALLY !! Those same people could enter the country legally but wish to skirt the process for one reason or another. People who are willing to play by the rules and contribute to society are hurt by this. I find it bizarre that people don't get that????

Lets also remember that illegals aren't just doing jobs that americans won't do (what a load of crap). They are using they're off the grid status to commit crimes. Let me state that not all illegals are committing crimes other then entering the country illegally but some are.

Originally posted by Johnmike

You've made a sweeping generalization. First off, many natives were treated horribly, especially those who ended up being "found" by the Spanish. What happened in North America isn't as bad (not that I defend it). See, the natives, for the most part, had no concept of owning the land. They didn't see themselves as its owner, so they "sold" it.

OMG, what are you talking about?
It's almost as if you don't really even believe in what you are saying.
You just want some defense for the sake of having one.

Originally posted by Johnmike
Well, slavery is a horrible practice, and I'm thankful that it's widespread usage has died. But you do have to realize that Europeans actually bought slaves from other (black, for the most part) Africans, as opposed to enslaving them themselves. Doesn't make it any more right, but again, you have to know how it happened. Though I guess ownership of the slaves' descendants counts as enslavement, in a way.

in a way????
Can you not differentiate between hoodlums selling slaves and a nation supporting slavery?

Originally posted by jfj123
I think you're missing my point. You see, illegals take american jobs because they will do them cheaper. They are here ILLEGALLY !! Those same people could enter the country legally but wish to skirt the process for one reason or another. People who are willing to play by the rules and contribute to society are hurt by this. I find it bizarre that people don't get that????

I find it bizzare that you blame the immigrants and not the employers!
I find it bizzare that people complain about outsourcing going to India and insulting indians when it's america deciding to take work there.
same thing with china and manufacturing.

Illegals won't take american jobs because they will do them cheaper, americans give illegals jobs because they will do them cheaper.
Big difference.

If there are no more illegals than employers will find others to do jobs for that price, maybe american homeless people on the streets.

Even without immigrants, there's always a way around things.

Originally posted by jfj123
Lets also remember that illegals aren't just doing jobs that americans won't do (what a load of crap). They are using they're off the grid status to commit crimes. Let me state that not all illegals are committing crimes other then entering the country illegally but some are.

a response to this can create an entirely new thread.
no president ever secured the border properly.
an extremely low population those living in america commit crimes, problem is those getting caught get released too fast.

It's like the pharmaceutical companies, there's no profit in a cure.
There's also no profit in getting rid of crime.
Govt. makes more and more things illegals so more ppl can get arrest.
This is all done for budgetary purposes.

My opinion is that you are looking at it from the wrong angle.

Too bad you don't live in a democracy

ModernAcademia, what dont you understand about how Johnmike is writing? Hes being perfectly clear to me and at least hes not making pathetic made up lies and slander.

He speaks the truth when he says that we dident steal the land ... how could we have stole it if nobody owned it in the first place? And in addition the so called "Native Americans" are actually not natives, they migrated across the land bridge from Siberia into what is now Alaska during the Ice Age.

Originally posted by ChrisF231
ModernAcademia, what dont you understand about how Johnmike is writing? Hes being perfectly clear to me and at least hes not making pathetic made up lies and slander.

It seems that ModernAcademia has a hard time understanding something if he/she doesn't agree with it. That kind of difficulty comprehending the obvious is common around here sometimes, lol.

well your information is insufficient

plz explain 2 things for us to move foward

1) How exactly did they not own it
2) How, during those times, could they have shown proof that they owned it?

Let me bring this thread back to the intended subject, and the question posed by the OP,

I believed the member wanted to know..

North American Union Police in California, have they arrived?

To put my answer in the simplest term... NO

Having said this,

I will be moving on now, thanks for the query.

They dident own it because the "Native Americans" did not believe in the concept of owning land. To them the land was not owned by a particular person or group due to their nomadic lifestyle requiring them to be on the move in search of better hunting grounds.

Originally posted by ChrisF231
They dident own it because the "Native Americans" did not believe in the concept of owning land. To them the land was not owned by a particular person or group due to their nomadic lifestyle requiring them to be on the move in search of better hunting grounds.

you sound like an extremist
some extremists impose their religious beliefs on you
some extremists impose their business beliefs on you

i'm sure the entire native community wishes they had a lawyer

I dont like this, I did as much research as I could from all that I got from the video and I could not find anything on the company name , I even looked into private security businesses and no luck their