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Engineers from the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation investigated oil contamination in the debris of WTC 7. Their principal interest was directed to the various oils involved in the Con Ed equipment. However, they reported the following findings on fuel oil: "In addition to Con Ed's oil, there was a maximum loss of 12,000 gallons of diesel from two underground storage tanks registered as 7WTC." To date, the NY State Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and DEC have recovered approximately 20,000 gallons from the other two intact 11,600-gallon underground fuel oil storage tanks at WTC 7.
It is worth emphasizing that 20,000 gallons (of a maximum of 23,200 gallons) where recovered intact from the two 12,000-gallon Silverstein tanks. So, it is probable that the 20,000 gallons recovered was all of the oil in the tanks at that time. Since the oil in the Silverstein tanks survived, we can surmise that there was no fire on the ground floor.
Note that the size of a 12,000 gallon tank would be a little less than 12 feet by 12 feet by 12 feet (if built as a cube).
I'm not knocking you but "how convenient". Diesel fuel in all 3 buldings now. The official lie just gets better and better IMO.
Originally posted by Damocles
for example, to cut a big box column with sheet explosives you need about 11lbs, well a comparable sized volume of diesel heated to bleve wont do jack to it....but, a very large diesel tank might.
Originally posted by six
If enough damage was done to the upper truss system from one or more of these smaller tanks
Originally posted by six
Just b crazedecause it does not fit into your "the evil, stupid, inept goverment guys pulled off the most brilliant, largest ever, black ops" scenario does not make it worth discussing.
Originally posted by Damocles
i think the important part for all of us is to stay open minded and think outside the box.
the OP brought up a theory in an attemtp to find "the rest of the story" and we discussed it. we discussed why the theory was unlikely, and ideally some of us learned a thing or two.
if everyone could show the same open mindedness with other theories we may actually move forward but sadly it doesnt seem to happen often.
Originally posted by six--
1. Other people here said that it was worth discussing...
2. I have never stated anywhere that I have read all the reports. Nor have you...All of them have not been released.
3. …They said we probably got it all. They didnt say that they got it all. You hammer the reports telling me the goverment lied to me, but then tell me the goverment is telling the truth about how much deisel they recovered. Dont cherry pick from the reports.
If they were full...still missing 3200 gallons from the stated capacity. You have flip/flopped in this issue. Read your post.
4. I never said that the goverment was inept. Ct'ers claim this grand conspiracy, the biggest black op the world has ever seen, but then claim that WTC 7 was a big bungle that they had to take care of. Please. You cant have it both ways. You have brought little/no proof to what has been thrown around except misqoutes, people taken out of context, doctored videos ect... If your case is so strong, then why all the doctored videos, faked documents, phd's claiming expertise in fields that have NOTHING to do with their doctorate, that seem to be coming out of the CT side?
5. You dont even know my views on the goverment. So dont talk to me about reasearch. At least I though outside the box, and am not toting others thought and views. I am willing to have what I put out there pick it apart. Just as damocles stated above, it gets one more theory out of the way if it is proven wrong.
BTW...Just for the record. I am very well read. I hold several college degrees.