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use your own common sense and knowledge. Stop bickering and start doing. Live your faith, dont preach your faith.
Originally posted by SoFunkyMe
show me proof that all that is tru u have proof that there is god were? we need proof for everything well thats how i live
Originally posted by shearder
Originally posted by SoFunkyMe
show me proof that all that is tru u have proof that there is god were? we need proof for everything well thats how i live
The mere fact that you are alive is proof that God exists. Whatever you want to call him, it's up to you, but he exists. The Bible was written AND translated by man. Man is not perfect by any stretch of the word but the bible must also not be taken absolutely literally. It is a teaching. What we have also realized is that when we learned in school, well most of us (spelling and grammar excluded for) most, 30 years ago has changed.
The bible written say 2000 years ago also has had things change BUT when it was written was pretty accurate. So take from it what you will - and it will still be changing in another 1000 years as will all the teachings in school and the things we know as scientific fact will also change.
That's the way of the world - NOT the bible.
Originally posted by Gorman91
Originally posted by Havalon
What army? Early Christians were hated by all. The only army would be the one sent to kill them. After the Romans corrupted it for 1000 years, then that happened.
I think you perhaps missed the irony in my post!
First off the Pagans would not know what a christian was if it bit him on the bum!
They quickly found out what a Roman soldier was though, then came the Papal army of priests to do the 'converting'. First up get rid of the exsisting religion by 'claiming' the holy sites, second up scare them into believing by showing them that it is a 'vengeful' God. (Use the ten commandements as an example and 'smite the unbelievers in the name of the first 6 commandements, after all 'we are only doing Gods bidding')
Exodus 20:2-17
1) I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery;
2) You shall have no other gods before me.
3) You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
4) You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me,
5) But showing steadfast love to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.
6) You shall not make wrongful use of the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not acquit anyone who misuses his name.
4 and 6 being the justification for a good hiding!
[edit on 25-9-2007 by Havalon]
Jesus wasnt god son. Jesus were the adopted son of the deified Julius Caesar was known as "divi filius" (son of god). If you search a littlebit you will see that in Caesar's Book of Life many names are exactly the same like in the bible mentioned in bound with Jesus.