Canada accuses Bush of preparing for war with Aliens?

Paul Hellyer s a respected Canadian thats all...(about as much respect as any other ex politician....)
That being said, hes got some cojones to bring this stuff up as fact....He WAS a defense minister here....
The truth, alien visitation has been ongoing since the atom bomb...
The Bomb called in the intervention of many interested galactic species because it does some damage to their existance as well as our own...
The atomic explosion causes vortices of some types we are not yet aware of.....these forces wreak havoc on the fabric of existance(ie.they are, or can be detected by special instruments which were designed and tested back in 54.)+-
These vortices act at antipodes to the earthly mushroom cloud and have caused some aircraft to disintegrate in flight, these mysterious crashes have been recorded.....(it seems the molecular structure is weakened by the influence of the vortices which tend to drift and dissapate very slowly....)
All this and more can be gleaned from the works of a Canadian pioneer in UFO research.......Wilbur Smith.....
Indeed the Canadian Govt is into the cover up as deep and as intensly as their US counterparts...which will all become one gigantic conglomerate shortly anyways...
Wilbur was in it from the initial establishment of MJ12, and has some remarkable lectures and a partly finished book which his dear wife , valiantly smuggled into print after his death .....(plus lectures avail..still)
Soo this is from the beginning, Canada has been knuckle to eyeball sucked into the same secret c rap with the US.
Paul Hellyer may be too damn smart to claim Govt knowledge....This way he may say what he has to without getting arrested for treason......
The defence minister is indeed a soldier in every sense of military and civil law....and secrets are, after all, secrets.
The man is certifiably sane(as anybody) and an adult Canadian citizen....
A former defence minister with a private opinion....nothing illegal there....
bergle

oops dbl post....

[edit on 22-9-2007 by bergle]

Since so many Canadians seem to dislike the title, I decided to to omit Canada from it. However, I just realized I can no longer edit the thread title... Anyways, I apologize to everyone offended. I just took the title of the Youtube movie but I admit it is not truthful enough and the opinion of this one man is not representative of the country as a whole.

What is more interesting to me is how more and more such pieces get into the MSM. Just about 5 years ago such topics were pretty much a tabu, or delivered with a lot of ridicule...

[edit on 22-9-2007 by Jgruh4e]

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I appreciate your effort to change the title and I'm not offended at what you presented.
Hopefully you understand the Canadian perspective on this.
It is interesting that a higher up talks about this subject and makes me think there is something more going on.
Once again, thanks.

Personally I found the DinoSaucers clips at the end to be the most enlightening parts of the video.

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I'm going to assume you're being facetious with that remark

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Problem being the news clip about Mexico looks and sounds chopped.

this might be off topic but dinosaucers used to rule !

ok I was interested enough to look at this clip. when you watch it hit the second button on right of you tube player to see it without it stretched. It is clearer.

Ok watch his head accepting two things, up tics when speaking means yes left to right means no. I am assuming this is a fair clue of him lying or not.
Any word said at time of a blink is coincidence or a stress word or lie.

"not at all its a pleasure" head up tick Yes or (truth)
"no not really" Same head tick up so he is signaling yes as he says no (Lie). blinks matched every word he said one for each word in proper time. The question was on evidence, so this could be evidence of fake us program.

1:13
"I was assesing the information trying to tell who was telling the truth and who wasn't" He is not on camera but listen to his sentance pace. when he gets to 'telling the truth and who wasn't' he rushes, he wants to get past that part. The topic of truth and lie is something that stresses him. listen for the tempo

Now this gets odd, That um unidentified (stutter)flying objects are infact real as real as the planes flying over your head" Saying UFO was a stresser, a pause, not wanting to say it, and a stutter during saying it.
He is back in frame at "are in fact real" he does a head shake no (Lie) Subconsciecly flying over your head might have been chosen because he is saying things at a level others are not privledged to.

"and there has been a monumental coverup for more then a half a century" big blink on more then half. time frame of coverup is a lie. but when he says a monumental coverup he doesnt flinch at all. so there is some type of coverup.

"This is after looking at alot of evidence" long eye close at 'This is after' (lie) what ever he knows, it is not built after. His knowledge did not come from long looking. he also gives a big no shake on 'looking' confirming this shakes head again smaller on 'evidence'. He did not form his opinion after looking at alot of evidence.
"and trying to desern who is telling the truth and who wasn't. he gets a smirk here. he is proud of something.
"and I have concluded uniquivically", big shake on 'uniguivically', small one on 'concluded'. (lieing) that long blink on uniquivically

long stint of people who have seen evidence or seen classified documents then "are the ones telling the truth... ...basing policy conditions on that" stone cold here. He is telling the truth that people have seen documents. Head noding up and down. And that he is basing policy on that. So we have no on alien evidence, yes on coverup and yes that people seen docs. so this means the coverup is probally these false documents. but not 50 years worth.

2:23
He backs away from the moon tucker question with a little smile and almost denial when he says thats why I am asking question. He seems embarrised

"forcast in book' head nod (truth)
"wanting to build" Head shake (lie) dead timed blink on wanting with shake
"base on the moon as far back as 1964", true. so there was a base wanted by some, but not by the people he is speaking of. Sort of 'wanting' is true but none of us wanted that, then when he gets into the purposal to build it he goes straight from truth memory clean and smooth, so their was a purposal but not high up.

"General Arthur Trudor same name as one of my bosses" general up nod, real name. voice and down and to the left on his last name showed contempt and dislike. same down and to the left on bosses.

"was very determined to build a forward base on the moon." He almost laughs before saying and pauses, it is beyond rediculous to him.(lie)

Prepared all of the specification" big blink on 'spec' big head shake, (lie)

He also starts to say
"when they were first" speaking of aliens, then corrects it to
"when the crash occured" This is an odd correction.

When they were first recovered?
He is speaking from a referance of some type of human interaction with with a living animate plural thing. 'They' is more then one thing, and it is used for life not inanimate objects, the craft is a single object an 'it'.

The thing is he changes to just crash, removing the elluded information of discription. He backs off his first thought, that is covering something over. Why would he cover his opinion about the crash or if bodies were found why does he openly claim to be a believer then hold back something? Could 'they' be the people who are making the story?

3:30
"there is no evidence, that I have seen, that would really convince me that they are in fact actually you know enemy" He very easily related the info of what the guy back in rosewald said about them being called enemies. But when he spoke about what he thought he paused and didn't want to say it, then a big shake on 'enemy'. Since enemy is bad, and no is like bad I don't know here. also we have double negatives so tough to tell, is it not enemy so that why no shake, or shake on enemy meaning not friend. Not a clue.

"And what I would like to know.. he goes on" his head shake matches the words, when he speaks in no's he shakes, in yes he nods, so this looks true.

"I think this is tremendously improtant" Big shake, eyes closed (lier lier pants on fire)

(canadians) "no absolutly not most of them are skeptics" big defense of canadians that don't believe

"most of them havn't spent time researching the subject" smile on researching the subject.

"they would be very similiar to the average american" shake and closed eyes on 'american' (lie) he thinks we believe cunuks don't

All the witness stuff and canadian opening hearing. spot on(truth) He wants hearings.

For a UFO'logist he doesn't remember the guys name involved, puts his extensive research to question.

Note that tucker belittles people corporations and power do not want heard, he was really nice and did not degrade this topic at all.

Looks like Bush is going to claim Iranians are pod people.


[edit on 23-9-2007 by Redge777]

Battlefield earth

[edit on 23-9-2007 by infamouskiller]

Smells like a staged alien invasion. What better way to make the Earth unite as a race than a staged alien invasion. Would that not play into the hands of the world elite?

Think about all the problems that would erase and all the United Nations Policies it would change. The world would have no choice but to start acting as one unit.

The reason I say "Staged" because what if we did successfully back engineer this technology and we really have thousands of alien space crafts or UFO's placed all over the world Say Britain, US, Canada, or most of Europe.

Who is going to blame the US or Russia for an attack on the world? That is why the UFO is top secret and we pretend that they don't exist. We could launch an attack on China via UFO and who would they blame? US, Russia, Japan, Britain?

NO, of course not, they couldn't.

This could be the final card for the elite to dominate the world.

Now of course, on the flip side of things, an alien invasion could be a great way to cut down on the global population. Say they start attacking every where at once and kill millions of people and some how at the last minute we battle the UFO's and hold them back. Global Warming, Over population, Strapped recourses or food would be resolved in just a week.

Then the United Nations would rule the Earth and yet we would still have a threat and must prepare for the next attack. Which gives the premise of what the US does to it's own people. Fear mongering that the boogie man is going to get us.

Of course, the nations of the world would need the UN and that is how my best guess final story book would go.


Another idea would be that the world government and aliens are messing with each other bending the rules and are getting antsy with each other. But somehow, I doubt that.

If these "people" wanted to hurt us we would all be dead long ago. Building an advanced base on the moon would be a waist of money.

As a guy who went head to head with one of these ships take it from me, we are defenseless against their technology.

I feel sure that whoever they are, and where ever they came from, they mean us no harm.

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tIndeed the Canadian Govt is into the cover up as deep and as intensly as their US counterparts...which will all become one gigantic conglomerate shortly anyways...
Wilbur was in it from the initial establishment of MJ12, and has some remarkable lectures and a partly finished book which his dear wife , valiantly smuggled into print after his death .....(plus lectures avail..still)

Those Alien space craft are made in Canada.

And MJ-12 is a HOAX:


MJ-12 mentioned 20 times.. HOAX right next to it.

I think its more than a co-incidence the CIA was formed right after the Roswell crash..

Wait... so aliens, who have been here for thousands of years, actually since the dawn of recorded history, will now attack earth?

Can you get any more paranoid than Mr Bush?? The guy needs to be replaced, this is getting silly. Now he is fighting "terrorism" from outer space!

I bet those aliens dont even pay tax... those evil doers...


[edit on 24-9-2007 by Copernicus]

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Excellent analysis Redge!

Just thinking of all the attacks from the moon some one could get away with is scarry.

Bush is not planning war with ETs. He knows that whoever has the highest perch is top bird. Remember the Heinlein book "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress"? We must stay "above" Red China (and et al) when they go into space. When we planted our flag on the Moon, we were saying THE MOON BELONGS TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! Now, whoever gets to Mars first, OWNS IT.

There are many evangelicals in the US who think that ET and flying saucers are not from other planets. They instead believe that ETs are in fact devils and demons, disciples of satan, and flying saucers are Satan's constructs designed to act as the false prophets in end of times. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have propagated this notion via their for profit ministries.

I would not be surprised if George Bush, the same guy who God told him to invade Iraq, had God tell him to fight against Satan's flying saucers and the demons who fly them from a base on the moon. Its the same concept of bringing the war to them as seen with Iraq. One would hope that Bush would understand that whomever attacked ET from the moon with obvious manmade materials, could suffer a retaliatory attack on earth.

I wouldn't disbelieve that Bush wants to build a weapon fortified lunar base and I have the distinct feeling that Bush knows about the ETs and the craft at Roswell. It appears that only republican presidents are allowed to know the real truth about ETs. Ronald Reagan obviously knew as well as former head of the CIA Bush Sr. and it is looking pretty suspicious that Bush Jr knows as well.

Originally posted by GeeGee
Yes, Bush, that's very smart. Put up weapons in space to intimidate extraterrestrial's that are thousands of years ahead of us technologically. I dearly hope this isn't true.

You want to know how arrogant the military people are?
They shot at them in the past. Made the crashed. Recovered their craft. Recovered living and dead ETs.

They still shoot at them today.

When you think about it, can you imagine how patient theses beings can be?

They could obliterate our entire civilisation in so many ways, it's not funny. But yet, they watch, and hope, someday, we will GET IT, and wish for a peaceful contact.

Quoting the movie Contact: "We are an interesting species, capable of the most beautiful dreams, but also the worst nightmares."

ETD.

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The same defense minister spoke in Toronto with Steven Greer.. I believe in March.