If it gets crazy in U.S, what country to move to?

Originally posted by CyberSEAL
If things get "crazy" in the US why would you leave? I'm not a coward and I was born here. I believe in the way of life our forefather intended for us and will do my part to preserve and or reinstate it. I will die here regardless of what "goes down".

I know this post is somewhat misguided, but
I rather be wondering for the rest of my life in the desert sands then fight an army I know I wouldn't able to win against.

Directly or indirectly.


And I know I wouldn't able to win against such insanity, let alone survive in it.

If you wanted to fight for such a cause, you better have some method or plan to do the damage en mass and under the radar to increase the survival rate in your odds.

Even if that means running like coward for the hills,

I rather be the coward that comes back with an A-bomb a few years later to win the world then be a hero who dies in the first few minutes of a war.

And if you go down, you better have a way to take them down with you, hard.

That's my opinion,
Take it or leave it.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by Ihavenoidea]

reply to post by Agit8dChop


I absolutely agree... It will take alot of effort for someone to come all the way down to the pacific just to take over little old NZ and for what? we are in the middle of the ocean away from everyone...

I mean would the Australia Government shut its borders? they do it all the time for illegal immigrants who try to sail over in a boat, and end up pushing them onto NZ to deal with. At least we would take you in....

(no offense intended to any australians, I am just relating what has happened in the past)

reply to post by mrsdudara



Just curious if that law of drafting would still apply if you gave up your american citizenship for the country you are now residing in?


edited for spelling

[edit on 26-4-2008 by misswanderer31]

Originally posted by misswanderer31
reply to post by mrsdudara

 

Just curious if that law of drafting would still apply if you gave up your american citizenship for the country you are now residing in?


edited for spelling

[edit on 26-4-2008 by misswanderer31]

I don't know what it would do for you during a draft.

Depends on what you did to give it up.

[edit on 26-4-2008 by Ihavenoidea]

I always thought that Switzerland or Austrailia would be good places to live....but....I'm sure that when it hits the fan, its gonna hit everywhere....maybe no place is actually as safe as we think....

New Zealand is about as out of the way as you can get. Remote northern areas of Canada with low population density are a great option if you are prepared for a cold ass winter.

Oh well... You can all come and stay here in NZ with me

I live on the SouthIsland, and living is good.. we don't put any crap in our water. We have more sheep than people so we won't run out of meat anytime soon for the BBQ. We are considered the Diary capital of the world, only problem would probably be rice and wheat, but hey at least I can have a good steak or mince pattie. Lots of veges and fruit as well...
Skiing in the winter and Beach in the summer... what more could you want?

Originally posted by pjsconcrete

Now that the Assult Weapons Ban is expired, American citizens can own automatic weapons ..

the AWB never was about fully automatic weapons, just accessories (floding stock, flash hiders, etc) - and general gungrab PR.

maybe you mean the NFA act of 1934?

back on topic:

the issue isn't really where to go but when. if you leave early, you'll at least feel you've achieved nothing, even IF it turns out to save your life later on. imagine all people who left nazi germany in 1933-36, they left right on time, survived and generally acted with great foresight. of course, their home country was destroyed and, had the axis won, their decision would have become irrelevant. in the case of the west's decent into feudalism, who's opposing it? who has the power to do so?

i think if everybody cut and ran, the new axis would win outright. survival is overrated, once you're willing to sacrifice everything just to keep breathing, it's the mentality, which made people sheepishly go to the incinerators.

[edit on 26.4.2008 by Long Lance]

Personally I will stay in the U.S., I know my way around here. I am not sure what type of situation would warrant leaving the United States and taking up residence in another country, but it would have to be near anihalation for me. And then I would probably be dead and wouldn't care. Seriously though, I know the backwoods here, I could survive on the land given the waters are OK, I have no doubt about that. But I don't think we are going to be in any type of situation that would warrant people needing to rush out of the US.

Originally posted by jubuwal
Switzerland would be the best choice. Political neutrality and the fact that they could blackmail anyone by airing their bank records has kept them out of war for hundreds of years.

agree, allso it is the safest country to be in, if nuclearsh*t hits the fan. Country policy is that every citizen must have bed in falloutshelter. allso its geography makes it one of the hardest countries in the world to invade. It is allso most democratic one, because it has nearly complete direct democrazy. Interesting, because Representative democracy is justified with the impossibility of direct democrazy.

only problem with switzerland is that it is a mountain country so if climate becames colder it would be inhabitable. allso food production even now days might not be enough if swiss people would need to call in total isolation.

[edit on 28/4/08 by hopea]

What about S.Amer countries
like uraguay or costa rica?
Fr the democracy index by Economist
the whole region is quite good.
.
You travel a few months b4 election day, vote from overseas
(or trip in neighbouring overseas country, coming into overseas country to vote)
come back few months later
.
has anyone travelled to Cuba?
juz for the sights?
perhaps there are some shop selling Gbay postcard and souvenirs?



[edit on 28-4-2008 by SnowWhite]

reply to post by Pellevoisin


I would have to Disagree to a certain extent here, New Zealand Loves US Citizens provided you have a skill that would the benefit the country which is a very small sacrifice to pay to get out of the US, Dont get Me wrong I too Love the US, but Our beloved country is going down hill fast and it will go down Faster once Obama gets In office so I am moving to Italy I already have agreat Place to Move to and Start my Hotel Business in a Castle Best of Luck to you .

reply to post by dominicus

My family and I are really thinking about moving out US. We want to move to a country that is progressive, meaning energy efficient, health care and education for everyone. It is funny, that we aren't the only Americans thinking this.

Interesting reading!!!!! Too bad age isn't required! First, I agree that any move should be considered now and that you can't JUST decide to LIVE in another country unless you have some unique skill or LOTS of money. But as a baby boomer I would ask, What Country Has The Best Health Care? That would be France taking 2nd to the U.S.--Perish the thought that I would have to turn a bit snobbish, but the French pretty much isolate themselves unless they need to be rescued--too bad the U.S. will not be able to afford them that luxury in the future.

To the OP.
Stay where you are.
Nobody wants you.

I have the perfect place to go and hide not far from US but plenty of water and food and would never be invaded. Would love to put a few people together and start something before things get to bad. If interested contact [email protected]

Originally posted by lombozo
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

Out of curiosity, why do you say that?
I've never considered Australia as a place anyone wanted to invade.

Go back to WW2. The Japanese really wanted to but the USA intervened.

I personally love Australia. I've been there four times. Western Australia is my favorite. I see two problems though. If you need to leave because of a crisis, it's a long expensive trip. Secondly, the anti-gun government is a big turn-off for a self preservationist like myself.

A big positive is it's isolation and that could keep many things from happening to the country in case of war, etc.

reply to post by misswanderer31


Yes, the way I understand it is that the other countries would have to give you back. Even if you claimed citizenship elsewhere. Im not sure if the other countries actually would or not, but the way I read it was that they had agreed to.

Having lived in Mexico, in a small coastal village on the Gulf of California; I would move back there and eat fish and beans & tortillas for the rest of my days if I had to. Beautiful, laid back people, beautiful uncrowded beaches, fantastic fishing and 7 pesos for a liter of petrol, fast www. access, and only 8hrs from my driveway here in the States.

y hablo Espanol un poco.

There wouldn't be much sense in anybody going to Canada, If the U.S. falls, Russia or china would see it as an opportunity to finish the job and take over the whole thing anyway.