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Originally posted by b309302
I really want to believe in UFO's and aliens. I am sure they exist, and not all the pictures are fakes. I can not see them working with our government however. Apparently they are responsible for the technology boom we have through an exchange program or agreement. Where is this technology then? I have heard people say it is everything from cars to computers... but I can not believe that. ALL of our technlogy has a history you can trace, the car, plane, computer... all of it. None of it just appeared, it evolved from earlier ideas, and those from earlier ideas. I could totally understand if Henry Ford went from a model T one day to a lamborghini the next, but it didn't happen that way. I sure hope if we "borrowed" technology from a far advanced civilization the least we could do would be to get Windows to work right... although if they were running Vista could explain why alien saucers crash alot. Can someone explain what technology we have that we couldnt have come up with on our own?
Originally posted by Gorman91
Why do you people have such little faith in the human mind? Must all technological wonders be automatically aliens? Are we that dumb in your minds?
Why would aliens bother with a doomed world as ours anyhow??
Originally posted by b309302
Okay here we go. #1 We need conflict, and bickering. Where do you think ideas come from? In a "utopian society with everyone in agreement, no progress would be made. If no one is pushing you to build something bigger and better, you won't. War contributes more to advancing technology then anything. That statment makes no sense. Without conflict, nothing would be accomplished. #2. Here is the biggest problem with all these threads... hi I'm Mr. so and so and I worked for CIA, AREA 51, fill in the blank with whatever. I have no proof of anything but here... I stop reading at that point. I have no clue who you are, and you are telling me a story that you can not possibly back up with any facts. If someone wants to come out with evidence... back it up. Post something scientific, I have a degree in physics. Tell me how antigravity works, unified field theory, anything that would be proof of higher intelligence and technology. Funny how so many people claim to work with aliens and technology in ATS yet don't know basic physics equations or principles. They claim, I can tell you aliens exist, but the aliens wont let me tell you anything more... really? they won't? But saying they exist, is a clear violation of whatever contract was made... that is okay? Telling me how this supposed technology they ALREADY GAVE US works isn't? Funny how that always works out. I dont even know where to begin with this one. Why make an agreement? Apparently UFOS buzz the country every day, crashing quite often apparently...they dont seem to care much about it being a secret. If they are going to abduct humans... lets see..abduct them from America where they have a huge military and nuclear defenses, or some third world country that couldn't detect them if they wanted too. You do the math. Why enter all these agreements for no reason. Just steal people from the Congo or something, no radar, no real military to deal with. It's the most logical choice. I'm sorry, they didnt give us any technology we didn't already have. Name one thing they gave us? Explain how it works? No one can... As far as them lying, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. We lied to the Indians, Spain lied to the "Mexicans", it's kind of what happens, and anyone who knows history will tell you that is the case when two cultures on different technology levels meet. Don't think our government back then wasn't aware of this, and would have expected that. It wasn't a surprise. Any facts in this story are so washed out with fantasy they are hard to pick out. Honestly, keep the kiddy stories to the kids. Some people on here like me actually have degrees and don't buy into these things. There are several good threads with proof I have a hard time explaining, and people who make compelling logical arguments. That's why I am here, not to listen to stories. You want to be taken seriously... back it up with proof.
[edit on 21-9-2007 by b309302]
Originally posted by Gorman91
Why do you people have such little faith in the human mind? Must all technological wonders be automatically aliens? Are we that dumb in your minds?
Why would aliens bother with a doomed world as ours anyhow??
Now can someone explain how in 300 years we went from being a agronomical to techological society in such a short timespan with out 'foreign' aid????
Originally posted by GeeGee
No, I have much faith in the human race. But come on, aren't you the least bit skeptical of how we went from riding horses to fiber optic networks and traveling into space within the span of 100 years?
Originally posted by Copernicus
reply to post by b309302
No, the story is that the US government got contacted by the Greys in the 50's or earlier. They made a deal with the greys - abductions for technology. So thats why we have all these people getting abducted and the government denying its happening. In return, the government gets technology,..."
i think people who believe this are confusing a running thread of "The X-Files" with reality. i honestly believe that show has deluded millions into thinking that storylines created by Chris Carter are based on real facts. (My favorite show of all time, but nonetheless, its FICTION).
[edit on 19-9-2007 by Copernicus]
Originally posted by earthman4
I saw a picture of a modern hard drive in 1969. It was found in a fishing net in the North Atlantic. I don't think disc type drives were in use then. Aliens may explain it's existance.