Barksdale Missile Number Six: The Stolen Nuclear Weapon

I posted one of these links before, but no one seems to have noticed, anyway here it again, another's analysis of what the entire missile incident could be all about and if it makes a difference to anyone this guy has a phd.

B-52 Bomber Incident and Insider Trading? Was Someone Trying to Profit from a Nuclear Attack Against Iran Before September 21?

Was That Nuclear-Armed B-52 Flight Destined for Iran?

reply to post by worldwatcher


First...as I've stated before: The put options that were purchased three weeks ago betting the market to go down dramatically, is a dead horse which continues to be beaten into submission...the options have already been called and transactions executed. This was nothing more than a complicated method of securing financing.

Second..there's nothing new in this link either related about the B-52's. Everyone knows they're a global plane, and are stationed at Barksdale and other places.

Really, stop trying to make mountains out of mole hills...while this is a very serious mistake, it WAS just that....a mistake. Nothing more, nothing less.

And besides...The USAF will not use the B-52's for Iran..we're going to show off our new stuff along with the stealth bomber.

reply to post by KnowItAll


while I appreciate and welcome your opinion, you are not the say all and final word on any issue. I like to form my own opinions and refute your "making mountain of molehills" comment for simply providing links to another voice on this issue other than the submitter of this article.

I would like to throw a little tidbit into this conversation. Make of it what you will.

The missiles on the B-52 were AGM-129 Advanced Cruise Missile units, specifically designed to be launched from wing pods of B-52H planes.

Now, let's take into consideration an air show in Moscow on 8/22:

www.af.mil...

At this air show was a B-52, among other aircraft. A B-52 which someone tried to purchase...

news.yahoo.com...

How interesting that a B-52 flies across the USA several weeks later, and we're unsure if it was carrying five or six nuclear missiles which can only be carried on a B-52.

Now obviously, Russia doesn't need one of our nukes, they've got plenty of their own. But what if a country were bombed and the nuke was traced back to the USA? That would spark an international incident far worse than one of our cities being bombed...possibly enough to cause retaliation by Russia, Iran, China...etc. Pick one.

reply to post by pjslug


The title of the thread reads, The 'Stolen' Nuclear weapon.

So the fact that any dirty bombs made from this nuke would actually be expected to contain US signature isotopes.

I just think with all the anti-war talk going on, and pull our troops out of Iraq ect, that a new and bigger 9/11 is needed, for a full scale (non-nuclear)attack/invasion on whoever the zionists decide to point the finger at.

They can literally blame anyone for dirty bombs going of in say Penn Station (for instance) under Madison Square Garden, as has been depicted on a couple shows on the discovery channel, I believe(may have been another network,I saw it about 3 weeks ago).

They can do this buy useing the same teqniques they used on 9/11. Controlled media, fake witness, planting of evidence and the like.

I just think at this point Bush needs more support to stay in Iraq from the people who actually believe 9/11 was not an inside job, or the gov didn't look the other way, and they are losing support from those folks rapidly. They've already lost all support from those of us with eyes open.

I just think 9/11 worked so well, why not try it on a bit larger scale, they can also point the finger and implicate whatever country they really wanna invade next, and recieve full backing from the American people.

There still are alot of who seem to think there is a difference in useing unconventional methods to kill the enemy i.e. terrorism, and useing tanks and mortar shells on countries causeing huge collatoral damage. It's terrorism either way you look at it in my book.

But lieing and killing your 'own' people is about as low as it goes imo, to further ones agenda.


[edit on 12-9-2007 by Nola213]

Outstanding thread

However, I think you can eliminate Sept 14 as a possible date. Infowars is reporting the 14th as a HOAX

Your CRT TV,PC monitor use a minute amount of Uranium or Piece of Metal Bombarded with some Uranium.

In the Electron Processor

Been awhile since I studied a Electron beam.

(milliigram super tiny)
to produce the image beam and creates Rayon Gas a by Product of Uranium.
which is why there Never Broken.And Stored in warehouses.And being Pressurized the gas becomes more powerful.

One could gather Thousand of CRT's and make some basic Dirty Bomb.

Point is you don't have to look far for radioactive products.

www.howstuffworks.com...



I'll Post more on the electron beam its a good thing to know.

[edit on 12-9-2007 by infamouskiller]

NWO 'BROKEN ARROW' UPDATE: Authorities identify 3 Minot airmen killed on leave

The Plot Thickens...................................................

Minot airman dies while on leave

The Associated Press
Posted : Wednesday Sep 12, 2007 16:04:23 EDT

MINOT, N.D. — Minot Air Force Base officials say an airman from the base has died while on leave in Virginia.

www.liveleak.com...

reply to post by neverknwo


Well the plot does thicken.
The theory now will be did he have knowledge of the missing nuke.

reply to post by neverknwo


From your source it cites:

"The base says Blue was a response force member assigned to the 5th Security Forces Squadron."

What is the role of the Security Squadron's Response Force?

There's no place like home, there's no place like home...

Shoot, it didn't work! Sigh. I'm still here in the USA in the most "interesting" times we've seen in many years. I live in a major target too, one that I am surprised not to have been hit since 1812. Anyway, I read the original article was alarmed. VERY alarmed. Since then, I've read it *numerous* times, and two things are very plainly obvious to me:

1. The author has very pronounced ideological axe to grind, and he is convinced in the indisputable truth of the False Flag Paradigm (of which 9/11 Truth is only a sub-meme), and he makes quite an unwarranted conceptual leap between "I suspect a nuke is missing" and "a missing nuke will be used by the Dark Emperor, Lord Dick Cheney, to destroy all that is good and sacred." I'm always suspicious and untrusting of True Believers.

2. He presents absolutely NO evidence for his chilling two-part conclusion. Yes, he makes a very well-articulated argument, and he seems to know (but really, how would I know?) what he's talking about when it comes to nuclear weapon command & control, but when it comes down to the crux of his argument, he presents not a single shred of verifiable evidence. I've looked at lots of stories concerning this incident, and his article is the ONLY one that maintains that six missiles went missing whilst only five were accounted for. One thinks that this minor detail would surface somewhere, but if it's out there in a reputable source, I haven't found it.

If this dude makes such amazing claims, why doesn't he back it up? I usually wouldn't hold a journalist to the following exacting standard, but the weight of what he's saying demands it: every single one of his assertions should be referenced with links we can all see. As far as I can tell, even by what he himself wrote, the claim that there's a nuke missing seems to come out of the blue, and he makes no effort to back it up whatsoever.

Mahajohn

Security Forces (SF) personnel are the ones that control the nukes at all times during movement. So this leads to a few possible ideas:

1. He knew something about this and couldn't be trusted, so he was taken out of the picture

2. He died accidentally, sad but this happens

So the only way I can see #1 happening is if he was on a nuke security team and knew something about this event. His time in service doesn't lead me to think he was on this sort of team. Only seasoned SF personnel handle nukes and an A1C wouldn't have the skill level to take on this sort of tasking.

For those who understand the USAF skill level talk, this guy didn't have the time in to have his 5 level yet. He joined the USAF in March of 2006 and there is a mandatory 15 month OJT period before you can get your 5 level. Between boot camp and SF tech school he doesn't have enough time at Minot to attain his 5 level. So having a 3 level on a nuke security team isn't something that I can see happening.

The only way for him to have been on a security team is if they needed a body no matter what to make the movement happen due to a manning issue.

So until we find out how this SF A1C died and if he was on a nuke security team I can't say that my #1 idea is a possibility.

I am sad to hear about the deaths from Minot. Having 3 deaths in a short amount of time is not normal.

So what about the Minot B-52 pilot that died this past July on his motorcycle? As far as I know this is still under investigation. Maybe he was told about this mole hunt operation that I talked about in an earlier post and didn't go along with it. Then again, people die on motorcycles all the time.

Another Airman died in a 3 car accident on July 3rd of this year. He worked communication and navigation equipment on B-52s. This story doesn't make me think it was anything other then an accident with a very bad outcome.

I still think this was a setup from the start to seek out bad apples and let the world know that we have nukes and we will load them onto planes regardless of the treaties we signed. Mistakes can be made, but this reported nuke movement doesn't sound right to me. How do we know that real nukes were moved? I didn't see any pictures and there isn't any new info on this. The USAF let the cat out of the bag for a few days and it looks like they won't let any new info out unless congress does its thing. I think that will be a closed door session anyways since it deals with nukes. So bottom line is the public won't ever find out what really happened, but I still think this was a classified mole hunt from the info I have seen.

Concerning the nuclear detonation in the USA, read all my posts I predicted all of this over 3 years ago.

reply to post by section8citizen


if not Sept 14; maybe Oct. 13

this guy, www.freemantv.com, says,

"First we hear about US troops being deployed to DC

www.wesh.com...

Now, this?

This is a message forwarded to me [Freeman, not corusso] by a friend:

My goddaughter Kate called a little bit ago, they are back in upstate NY at their apt, packing to move in November on the Army base there in Calcium (her husband is stationed there). She was going on base to the commissary to get moving supplies and said the base in on defcon red alert, she said MPs were checking IDs everywhere, she said they were doing everything but patting people down. She said the base has never been at red alert before.

I could find no military defon red alert (the one pdf I did see was unavailable) and NORAD goes by numbers, not colors. The only thing that goes by colors is jr's homeland security...then I came across this:

I might just be right about the 10/13 hit. Just so you know the story. As many of you know, I predicted a "terrorist" attack for 9/11 in 2001. I actually predicted it 3 years in advance during the Clinton era. It was the rise of the W that clued me in on which year it would happen. Had I had 2 other bits of info, I would have predicted the targets as well. You see, the Twin Towers and the Pentagon both had Masonic cornerstone ceremonies on 9/11 in their respective building years. You can look this up. Only seeing this part of the pattern afterwards, I decided to see what other dates on cornerstones were significant. As it turns out, the White House had it's Masonic cornerstone laying ceremony on 10/13 in the 1800's when it was rebuilt. 10/13 is the infamous Friday the 13th that has received so much superstition. This is the day that the Pope and the King of France set out to destroy the Templars. Oh, and just by coincidence Ten-Thirteen happens to be Chris Carter's production company. You know, the guy who created the X Files and the Lone Gunmen which just happened to give the entire 9/11 scenario in it's pilot episode prior to 9/11 2001. Hmmm. Well, I didn't have a TV show in 2000 so, only my friends knew of my 9/11 prediction. They were quite amazed and they had entirely different reactions to the event than the uninformed masses. Now, I have a TV show and all of you to tell. I want to state that for the 9/11 scenario I had political knowledge that led me to know this was going to happen i.e. I knew they needed to pass the Homeland Security Act. I don't have such reasons for selecting 10/13. I simply know that our leaders are ceremonial magicians and therefore act in accordance with their rituals. With all this news, I'm beginning to think I might have this one right as well. Please don't panic. Although there will be death, these are simply stage performances. This one might even trigger people to awake more than ever."

stay in touch,
Freeman
--
thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com

[edit on 12-9-2007 by corusso]

I just have to ask.......

Do you people really think we will ever know the truth? 5, 6 or several missiles or whether it's was planned, authorized, etc?

this isn't an image or video we can pick apart, this is whatever the "official" word is or speculation.

Originally posted by section8citizen
Outstanding thread

However, I think you can eliminate Sept 14 as a possible date. Infowars is reporting the 14th as a HOAX

Alex Jones can be misguided. He had once said, in so many words, that Senator Eric Madsen is a fraud (click on the teamlaw link) when in actuality, with his help we can restore the original Constitution and reseat Congress.

There is no hoax here. Just noise. And the noise is pointing to something, maybe not on sept 14, but it is pointing to something.

Does anyone here understand the idea of "profile mentality"? The basic idea is that you put your own self in the "shoes" of the perpetrator, and therefor reach a conclusion on what is the OBJECTIVE of the act or acts being profiled.

The idea of a cover story about "lost nukes" is one that leads to plausible deniability. And if that were just about what happens in the US, it would be one thing. But consider what would be the "fallout" from a bomb exploded in France? All America would need to do is deny the matching signatures, and then blame Iran/Iraq/Syria/Whoever.

What would this do in terms of putting America in the forefront of the "war on terror"? What would this do in terms of making the American people feel that the Republican led adminstration was right all along? What would this do in terms of allowing a massive buildup in troops for the Midle East?

Just one lost weapon, one lie about the ID on the isotopes, and a lot of spin.

Just an idea.

[edit on 12-9-2007 by NGC2736]

Everyone, I just came across a disturbing explanation for Friday's suddenly ordered total stand-down by the Air Force. It's posted by Dave Lindorff at

www.thiscantbehappening.net...

and makes a lot of sense to me.

Logic dictates to me that something more than review of handling procedures for nukes is required to justify grounding every last plane in the service.

Mr. Lindorff suggests the regular command structure of the Air Force is standing down in order to conduct a search for other stolen nuclear weapons.

I find this even scarier than my original article. I only considered the possibility of one missing weapon. And I never considered the possiblity of multiple flights, with only the August 30 flight revealed by whistleblowers.

Lindorff is suggesting an unknown number of stolen nuclear weapons.

I hope we're both wrong.

azchuck

Originally posted by azchuck

suggesting an unknown number of stolen nuclear weapons.

What if seven nukes are missing? Seven nukes = "American Hiroshima"...

World Net Daily reported there were 6 missiles in an article just posted at September 13, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

At Minot, six cruse missiles with nuclear warheads were loaded onto a B-52H and flown to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana – without the bomber crew or ground command realizing nuclear weapons were on the aircraft.

WND article detailing stand down