This is the alien I encountered during my out of body experience!

Scientists say we are mostly empty space, yet we feel like we are solid. Everything we do affects another, as the grain of sand might move the mountain so to speak..why shouldn't we be able to travel or see beyond these shells..what the processes are I don't know but when they happen ..they are wonderful indeed..Thank you for sharing that travel Jedi

Sys

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I'd take you up on it, Diplomat, but usually when it happens the last thing you would want to do is visit a filthy bedroom that smells of unwashed socks and underwear. Right? Lol!

STM

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well i dont about you guys but the drawing reminds me of this little guy from the harry potter movie.

no offence op just having a little fun

Originally posted by GeeGee

I'm not an expert astral projector, nor have I even astrally projected. But I do remember reading somewhere that astral projection is not testable under laboratory conditions. Right now, astral projection will be kept controversial until science starts exploring non-physical phenomena.

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My scenario is not a "laboratory condition." People can either leave their body and fly around at will or not. So if anyone can, you should easily be able to fly into someone's house and read something on the wall.

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Very nicely said Sys.

Diplomat, when you said...

Originally posted by Diplomat
I have tried many times but never get past the weird rushing sensation when everything turns white and you hear a strange noise.

...you should know that, if you got that far, basically all you had to do was separate. Hearing a weird noise and visual scrambling are telltale markers that you're in the zone, so to speak. You don't sound like a great skeptic of astral projection, just someone getting frustrated at not being able to do it. It will probably happen to you at some point without your even trying.

Jedi, really liked your story, thanks.

Originally posted by Diplomat
So if anyone can, you should easily be able to fly into someone's house and read something on the wall.

When (if) you successfully astral project, you'll understand what's wrong with that statement. It's easy to imagine what you should be able to do when astral projecting, but quite another when you actually are astral projecting. One's instincts and motivations are altered in that state.

I agree with yuefo-You were darn close to having an 'experience' if nothing else diplomat. Vibrations, and weird noises usually precede the seperation. I have not been able to do it at will, but I have had some really weird experiences the more I practice it. A couple of times it felt like I fell through my bed downward! lol

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying it doesn't seem like there is any way for anyone to prove that it is real. Plus I haven't been able to experience it myself so of course I am skeptical. Even if I am successful, how am I supposed to know for sure that what I am experiencing is real and not a figment of my imagination?

Originally posted by yuefo

Originally posted by Diplomat
So if anyone can, you should easily be able to fly into someone's house and read something on the wall.

When (if) you successfully astral project, you'll understand what's wrong with that statement. It's easy to imagine what you should be able to do when astral projecting, but quite another when you actually are astral projecting. One's instincts and motivations are altered in that state.

When I am OOBE I have all kinds of things I want to do and things I want to see........but I have no real choice in what I end up doing.
EXAMPLE: I want to go left but I am out of control and floating to the right and if I fight it hard enough to try and go where I want to go I just end up popping right back into my body. SO if I want to HAVE an experience I need to just relax and go with the flow of the experience and see where it takes me.......so its very unlikely I would wind up in Diplomat's bedroom.
Dip......since you yourself have been trying to 'get out' you know first hand how difficult this task can be in and of itself. Gaining some real control whilst being OOBE is a whole other thing altogether, you will learn this if and when you ever do get out..........and then you will be ashamed at the nasty and unkind things you have written to Jedi....
I have no choice BUT to believe what Jedi is telling us, as I have had some 'interesting' experiences in this same venue myself.
We are truly multi-dimensional beings operating on many levels, some of which we are completely unaware.

Hmm, the fact that you can't even control your astral projection makes me lean more towards the explanation that it's just a dream-type experience within your own brain. Why wouldn't you be able to control the direction of your own soul when floating around?

This almost sounds like that time travelers story of people living in huts and being very close and tight nit. What was his name? ( John Titon or something like that.) I've never had an (out of body experience) so I can't comment on what would happen and how. The only out of body experience is my dreams that I know was a dream. Or was it? All I can say Jedi is " good story and experience and I'm glad you shared it with us all. One question. Have you had anymore OBE's or is that the only one you remember so well? Again thank you for your experience.

maybe real or not, sorry but since your hotdog experience you loose some credibility for me but it's not subject!

i had some oobe too so i have a question, on the so-called alien's planet are you walking or flying? are you sure they are aliens? it's common to see entity durating an astral projection but what is said it's those entity are kind of demon, they "shapeshifting" in everything they want and especialy in entity that you will not be afraid of to atract you and, if my memory is good, stole your soul.
So next time, pay attention to them and if you can, avoid them, maybe they look nice but as we say in belgium "the clothes don't make the priest".

But maybe you was really on an other planet, in one of my experience i felt my body going up to the sky in an incredible speed,about 2 or 3 second and then i was in the "border"
earth/space, it was so beautyfull, i've seen the earth, the space with the sun waking up in one area of the earth, i will never forget it!!!!!!

Originally posted by Diplomat
Why wouldn't you be able to control the direction of your own soul when floating around?

Maybe because you are not your soul, your soul is you! do you follow me?
So in this case, it's like if you are trying to drive a car, you have to practice to be able to ride on the road, there it's the same, you have to practice to "drive" your soul before to be able to follow the way you want when flying, and it's hard, i've try to cross a wall but unsuccessfully, i just seen my face in the mirror one time, just my head with 2 eyes, no nose no mouth, was funny!

Astral projections\oobe are all fake, if you want to be childish and tell lies go to another board!

All you have is dreams!

I liked the story and sense true sincerity in the experience.

As for skeptics who want that absolute proof of OBE. Proof can only be found in ones own experience.

For the record, OBE experiencers do this in a time when the physical consciousness is at rest. The reality is recalling the experience upon waking. Sometimes a later in the day event will trigger recall and the recipient can than trace over the experience. In both cases it is a pleasure to recall and again feel the experience.

My thought is every single human being has OBE and it's a matter of just remembering the experience when the psyche slides back into consciousness.

Lucid dreaming or OBE. seems no real boundary between each. Reason is, those who remember them upon waking will recall either at any later time.

I dream of flying all the time and have dreams so real that I awake feeling a euphoria for a day or two. I also am an abductee as well as traveled within the dark dimension before experiencing the light.

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Why wouldn't you be able to control the direction of your own soul when floating around?

There is a separation of the physical with the spirit. In the ether spirit state the EBE/Lucid dreamer is in a conscious form of the physical form. There is no body to act out with, just the conscious form of the physical body, allowing the sensation of body, but no visual or working parts.

OBE/Lucid is an invite from the ether to explore and recover energy for the spirit. The conscious form is taken on excursions to where ever the origin of spirit wishes to show the conscious form. This does not limit ones ability to act within the experience, just that the show is guided by a hidden force for reason only the unknowable decides.

Originally posted by 212121
Astral projections\oobe are all fake, if you want to be childish and tell lies go to another board!

All you have is dreams!

You can say what you want but i know what i have experienced, so for me that's not fake!
What is it exacly? I don't know, maybe a dream or maybe the soul who go out from his envelope carnal!

But now if you don't believe in it, please stop to post this kind of comment.

Originally posted by GeeGee

I'm not an expert astral projector, nor have I even astrally projected. But I do remember reading somewhere that astral projection is not testable under laboratory conditions.

Theres always a convenient reason that non of this bunk can be taken seriously. Anyone can claim anything, no matter how outlandish and wild it is, then just say it can't be proven..so there. lol.

Originally posted by ufopunx

So in this case, it's like if you are trying to drive a car, you have to practice to be able to ride on the road, there it's the same, you have to practice to "drive" your soul before to be able to follow the way you want when flying

So then, if this is true then there plenty of people out there who have mastered it, and should be able to handle Diplomat's challenge. I mean come one, having a simple obe to see what he wrote on his bedroom wall HAS to be easier then having an obe and meeting a bunch of aliens, right? On one hand you guys say you can't control OBE, then on the other hand you say you can? So what is it, yes or no. If it can't be controlled (and it can't, imo, as it is not real) then NOTHING "observed" during the "experience" should be taken as the alien "gospel" preached to a bunch of people that want to believe in something so bad they fall for anything.

What makes more sense. people claiming to have "out of body experiences" are:

1) Having either a waking or sleeping lucid dream
2) Suffering from sleep paralysis
3) On some sort of medication (legal or not)
4) Have some mental disability or suffer from depression
5) Need, desire, or want attention

Or

6) That they are separating their soul from their body and having contact with alien species from a galaxy far far away.

But of course, the obvious answer is to ignore common sense and go straight to the aliens. How could I be so blind?