This is the alien I encountered during my out of body experience!

Originally posted by agent violet
While I personally do not believe your story, I do value your creativity in describing things that you believe are authentic. As far as the microwave and hot dog experiment, I found it very odd that one would try to put the hot dog into the phone line as you explained it on that thread.

That's ok, I don't expect everyone to believe me, and I thank you for your honesty. But I would ask that you forget about the hot dog experiment for a moment. This OBE happened almost 20 years ago. The hot dog artistic experiment was only recent. I was a different person back then, I didn't belive in many things back then either, but now after looking back, it's very clear in my mind, so for me it was as if I was awake.

Now, I want to make it clear to everyone, that I'm not joking about this. I can still remember the entire trip, minute by minute, hour by hour.

And I wish to make clear that there is a big chance that you weren't OBE-ing, but just having a Lucid Dream. (Or a very vivid dream as someone else suggested)

reply to post by Diplomat


Hahahaha! That's funny! No disrespect but that's funny!

Originally posted by TsunamiLight

Originally posted by jedimiller
thanks. About the technology, It was a known memory that I had already known when I got there, as if when I arrived.. I knew what had been going on there. call it telepathy or other way of knowing, I just knew that they had given up or lost technologies in the past. Also the particular village I had visited seemed to be far away from any known civilization. I assume there could have been a city on that planet that I was not aware of..but I'm just speculating there. but basically, these Aliens prefered to live in huts and in close proximity to nature.

If they could just plant memory into you, why didn't they plant everything else into you? Why not make it more efficient and plant things you need to know? Was it necessary to install some information and tell you the rest? If they decided you were worthy of the information, why did they plant half and tell you the other half?

And these aliens sound a bit.. Amish.

Well, good question. But I never said they implanted any memories. I don't think they actually, touched me or gave me an implant of any sort. It's hard to explain, like I said, When I arrived there I knew these things just by looking around. of course I was in another state, non-human form. So maybe I could communicate with them mentally, but I know I didn't..we didn't really have a talk, or communicate at all. All I got from them was from their expressions and movements. I could tell he was afraid. I said, HE because I don't know if he was male or female as I didn't see any sex organs on them. But I don't know how that would explain why some of them were carrying children.


you also have to remember I was there very shortly, only about 3 to four minutes. and this was before I was told why I was being sent there. All of this was later explained when I arrived at my final destination.

I think it's wrong to say they planted mind information.

All of you OOBE people that see & have contact with aliens......I highly recommend you read Sleepers blog:
blog.abovetopsecret.com...

Then go ahead and read his enormous thread, and join in on the conversation if your not already doing so.......you will feel very at home in this ongoing conversation.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I am hopeful that my OOB experiences will lead me to some form of conscious ET contact as well...........so far everything that I see looks pretty earthly.




[edit on 12-9-2007 by theRiverGoddess because I have to edit EVERYTHING being dyslexic]



[edit on 12-9-2007 by theRiverGoddess]

Originally posted by zysin5
reply to post by jedimiller

 

Hello jedimiller! Thank you for sharing your exp. here with us

I can say for one dreams are very powerful!
For some I would have to ask what is so hard to think that our dreams are prehaps more than just dreams? OBE some feel, others think other things. but there is something! So I wont try to say I know the answer I dont.. I only know what I have felt and seen with my own mind..

I can say personally I have had a few exp with powerful dreams and feelings such as you explain here.
I will use the word dream, as I dont wish to upset the skeptics that can not except anything other than that.. I have a hard time beliving my own exp, so its just how our minds work here..

In my mind right now, I think to myself, that would be so kewl if I could see them agin, It wont bother me, I can handle it!!

Yet almost every time this happens I have points of these exp where I know I was very afraid, and didnt understand what was happening..
I felt like an infeirorer animal.. Where I did lose my body functions..
Yet waking up, I did not pee the bed, and never had a problem with that issue in my life.. Yet I know I lost control a few times in some exp I have had... (a little embarsing talking about that here...)

I was told to relax, my spirit just needed to adjust to these new settings..
Then it was nothing but pure beauty! As I was able to let go of what I thought was real.

Yet I still go on day by day as a normal person, I try not to think of the grander things that be, as I was just shown a very little little piece, and have respect for that!!

Be happy we live on a little world without the worries of the bigger picture!
Enjoy the lives you are given, and love those around you, and make this world a better place to live in.. That way the message I got..

Tho I havent been in the place you talk about jedimiller. its a big place out there and its full of life!!!
Life as we know it, and life as we dont know it, and life as we dont even understand it!!

And are you aloud to talk about this stuff to your scientology people?
You said before you where a member of scientology...

Just wondering, never hear many other scientology people saying this stuff, unless they are mocking it... hmmmm

[edit on 11-9-2007 by zysin5]

I haven't talked about this for ten or so years and I appreciate your interest and input. But I was never trying to have this happen to me, I was too young. I said I was 14, but I could have been 15 or 16. you know around that age. It was so long ago now. But I know this was NOT a lucid dream. As i've said again and again, this was unlike anything I have ever experienced and never did again. I never had a dream that lasted about 12 hours that was continuous and where I could see everything in perfect color and move my head around. this was real, as if I was flying thru space at light speeds, unknown to anyone. I have not shared this with many people. Once told this to my ex wife, my mother and my sisters. And after it happened I immidiately got to drawing. I drew this large poster with all the things i've seen. this sketch is like the 5th one from these alien beings that lived on that planet. and everytime I get to draw I always end up drawing them. I think I should make a statue of them next, just to get a 3D look at them.

this Particular alien planet was very small, looked alot like earth, and those pictures of the african villages fit it perfectly. But I think the planet was smaller than earth, and it was not on this galaxy, as I saw our own milky way under my feet dissapear within minutes. I can safely say this planet was on another galaxy, probably four to 10 galaxies away in the direction I was going.

Have you told your entire story yet?

If not, please come out with full disclosure on your alleged trip.

I believe you've stated you were "told" a lot of information. Well? Let's hear what you were relayed.

The longer your story is drawn out with little bits of information here and there the less I feel it to be credible. Waiting to give out information to me seems like you're waiting to make up a story when asked something specifically.

[edit on 12-9-2007 by Frith]

Originally posted by Frith
Have you told your entire story yet?

If not, please come out with full disclosure on your alleged trip.

I believe you've stated you were "told" a lot of information. Well? Let's hear what you were relayed.

The longer your story is drawn out with little bits of information here and there the less I feel it to be credible. Waiting to give out information to me seems like you're waiting to make up a story when asked something specifically.

[edit on 12-9-2007 by Frith]

I'll tell you the entire story detail by detail, I just don't want people to make fun of me. but I've already said all I can about that particular planet and this Alien race. I was there for a very short time.

Now, I want to make it clear to everyone, that I'm not joking about this. I can still remember the entire trip, minute by minute, hour by hour.

But then you said this

I said I was 14, but I could have been 15 or 16

Could you explain to me how you can remember every minute by minute but not remember what age you were when it happened please?

I can remember at what age i was for every hospital visit ive had even 25+ years ago, what age i was for many life changing things. This "story" would have definitely been a life changing event. Just trying to understand this trip you took. Help me out here.

Originally posted by S1LV3R4D0

Now, I want to make it clear to everyone, that I'm not joking about this. I can still remember the entire trip, minute by minute, hour by hour.

But then you said this

I said I was 14, but I could have been 15 or 16

Could you explain to me how you can remember every minute by minute but not remember what age you were when it happened please?

I can remember at what age i was for every hospital visit ive had even 25+ years ago, what age i was for many life changing things. This "story" would have definitely been a life changing event. Just trying to understand this trip you took. Help me out here.

It was so long ago. I can remember the day and events, just not so sure what month or year it took place. I could have been 14 or 15..somewhere about that age range. And you have to remember I was out for 12 hours or so, I was suspended with disbelief. I am sure I remembered what exact age I was back then, but recently, I been forgetting a lot of things that have happened in the past. Hope this helps.


Now on to the whole story. I guess I should talk about it more descriptively now? Didn't think this was going to get all the response, again..but what am I thinking. I'm at abovetopsecret.com..off topic, I was listening to Nori tonite and you guys had about 3 commercials going on there and he mentioned something about this subject. I get the feeling he's reading some of this stuff. Hi George

Jedimiller, you have admitted a few times that you are an avid sci-fi fan. I think you are just making up this story for attention/fun or possibly some kind of experiment. Who knows lol.

What's the point of telling us about some dream you had anyways? I could have an incredible dream about alien planets tonight but why should anyone care about my dumb dream? Oh wait, that's right... I forgot, you actually left your body as a spirit and flew around the universe right?

Here's the entire 12 hours summarized. Please, bare with me here as I have to recollect and think back..and it's really hard to talk about this. but i'm going to tell you the entire story, only because I see there are open minds around the boards.

I was sitting at home alone. I was living with my mother at the time and she had left to rosarito beach. It was late, i'd say around 9pm. I went to sleep. Immediately, I was outside in the dark, it was night and I was standing on a wet grassy field. I could tell it was night from looking up at the stars and I could actually feel the wet grass and smell the fresh trees around me. My senses were multiplied.

Then, in a blink I was pulled up. Zoom! I saw the oceans and earth fall behind me. Seconds later I zipped thru saturn and other objects in space and Started flying thru space at what I could only describe as lightspeed. This went on for hours, non stop. I could not move, I was frozen moving very fast and I could only move my head, I looked down, up, side to side. that was the limit of my mobility. This is when I slowed down and arrived at the first alien planet [Insert Original Post here] this is where I saw that Alien from the sketch. Later I turned around up again, and was pulled up again going in a straight line. few hours more, just passing space and all seeing all these weird objects like nebulas, asteroids, other planets. very colorful stuff. I want to make this short.
After going through all of that I approached a bright white star. It appeared to be a star, but as I got closer, it became apparent it was a hole on the black wall. I can't say there was a black wall, but I could only describe it as the end of the universe as I saw it. I entered this star and immidiately I felt cold, misty and wet. I was standing there feeling wet, when I felt two beings approach, these figures had no body or heads, but they would talk to me telepathically. One of them pointed to turn left. It was all white and I could not see anything. I entered this white room, where they had a hard bed, it was like a smooth finish bed, with two legs. on top of that there was a screen made of what I could only describe as gas, but it did have color. On this bed there was a man. he was about 40 or so years old, he didn't appear to be dead, but they said he was dead. the beings told me this: "This man is you, and you will have to watch yourself in the future" But I told them that the man in the table, looked nothing like me. They continued to say, "He is you and when you are 28 years old do not go to a wedding or a party wearing black pants and a formal white shirt or you will be shot and killed". I looked closely at this man on the table and he was thin and very human, he looked like he had not shaved for 3 days or so and he looked somewhat middle eastern. He had black dark hair and a tan skin complexion. This is when I asked, "Why am I here?" and the two white beings introduced me to another person, that I could not see, but I knew he was on top, like on a higher level, and they told me "He was God". They told me that he would explain everything to me. So God spoke to me and said. "You are here to get re-energized, you were dying so we brought you here to fix you, and we will take you back like new". I asked, "how do you do that?" and he explained that, "At one time, I made a mistake, I had too much creation energy on this side" He refered to this as a "creation energy or mass". he continued to say, " I had too much of that stuff here so I had to flush it out into space and you and all of your universe are made from that, and when you need to have more creation energy I open the door and let more out". He had a sense of humor as he used the word flush like a toilet.

I was really having fun then and wanted to know more. so I asked him, So did you create everything? and he said, "no. I don't do anything, my creation energy does all the work for me, it's like it takes it's own form" continued.

Continued.

After I was told how everything was made and so on. I was then told to avoid going to a wedding or a formal party. So I had known that I was going to get shot when I turned 28, another reason I hate guns. but I avoided that now. On to the OBE, after speaking to the creator or whoever he was, I don't want to get religious here. I was taken back again to the white table with the white room and I could feel the mist on my body. it was still very wet. Then I was shown my birth on the screen, I saw a hospital and my mother giving birth and other parts of my life. then suddenly, I looked at my hands and I saw then turn a white bright light..my hands then merged eachother and entered the body on the table thru the heart area, chest area..and I went inside the man as that white light..and that's when I woke up.



Having releaved all of my experience..I hope to share more of it, but i didn't want to talk about the ending of the journey, well you know for obvious reasons..it gets to be somewhat religious at the end with all that happened inside the star or outside the universe whichever it was. but that's what happened according to my recollection. this got me into becoming a christian for 5 years, then taking astronomy courses and getting more interested in scifi and supernatural things. another reason why i'm here.

Originally posted by Diplomat
Jedimiller, you have admitted a few times that you are an avid sci-fi fan. I think you are just making up this story for attention/fun or possibly some kind of experiment. Who knows lol.

What's the point of telling us about some dream you had anyways? I could have an incredible dream about alien planets tonight but why should anyone care about my dumb dream? Oh wait, that's right... I forgot, you actually left your body as a spirit and flew around the universe right?

And for a good reason. that's why I got into scifi. I know I probably lost most of you with the rest of the OBE, I know it wasn't all about the alien planet, that's why I only wanted to tell you guys about the alien. But you wanted to know the rest, so there you have it..Like I said, it's kinda personal.

I understand you completely, how wonderful that they have allowed you to see what is out there, quite amazing isn't it.

People have to have certain things happen to them before they can really understand how this works.

We can do our best with trying to describe our experiences but at times it's just not easy is it.

I didn't read about your hot dog thing but I know I tried stupid crap. I remember when I was on one experience I was walking through walls so one time I thought hey, I going to clear my mind and just go for it. Needless to say I knocked myself silly when I hit the wall, lol. After that I decided it wouldn't be smart to try the flying thing,

I believe you my friend

I would like to encourage you on your trip with the aliens. Try to learn as much as you can.

Originally posted by Diplomat
Jedimiller, you have admitted a few times that you are an avid sci-fi fan. I think you are just making up this story for attention/fun or possibly some kind of experiment. Who knows lol.

What's the point of telling us about some dream you had anyways? I could have an incredible dream about alien planets tonight but why should anyone care about my dumb dream? Oh wait, that's right... I forgot, you actually left your body as a spirit and flew around the universe right?

With this kind of attitude, I wonder what in the world your doing on ATS? There is no constructive or valuable in your comment.

I see few people on ATS that are openminded and are willing to expand their awareness and understanding. The majority is here to debunk and state their personal opinion of what they feel should be right or not. I'm not intenting to attack anyone but that's what it's like here for the most part. Most people take everything as a joke. So i wonder why many are here then, when your not gaining anything.

Many blindly say that out-of-body experiences are bull# and that there is nothing like the spirit etc. But they never have experienced anything themself and never tried so I don't think they should say anything at all.

Originally posted by InSaneTK

Many blindly say that out-of-body experiences are bull# and that there is nothing like the spirit etc. But they never have experienced anything themself and never tried so I don't think they should say anything at all.

They are bull# until someone can prove otherwise. Didn't TIME magazine run a story recently that basically proved that OBE's were simply imagined within the human brain? Sounds like a plausible explanation to me.

If anyone can actually float around through walls as a 'spirit' then let me write a huge word on one of my walls and you come fly into my house and report back to me what the word said. No one will do it, you know why? Because you can't.

diplomat is not very diplomatic.
people have claimed to do what you say they can't, ie. identify an event or object that is remote from them.
TIME magazine cannot prove that OBE's are just imagination. no one can prove that something that is intangible is not real. might as well try and disprove the existence of god.

Diplomat,


I don't believe I have read one thing in any of your post that has been nice to anyone here at ATS.

I am putting you on ignore.