Grey alien shown with George W. Bush

Wow, ATS has sunk to new lows. No more blurry pictures, please.

Originally posted by uberarcanist
Wow, ATS has sunk to new lows. No more blurry pictures, please.

No, this is what ATS is all about. Trying to find the truth with these photos, whatever the answer is. We pretty much know it's a reflection, we just need to find out who it belongs to and if it's coming from in front or behind of the door.

That's right though. You don't want pictures posted on here that actually look like aliens. You'd prefer blurry pictures of a blob of nothingness where you can convince your mind to see a UFO. Real or not, I happen to prefer to look at images that at least look like the object in question.

It was posted here so you all can judge what it is. Why should the rest of the internet get to see it and not us? You aren't making any sense. If it bothers you that much, there's a boat and some flying rods that someone thinks is a UFO on another thread.

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Urg...low standards for postworthiness just mean that fewer people take us seriously when we *do* stumble upon something big. There's better proof of alien life out there, let's focus on that instead.

Call me when a grey steps up to the podium....
OR maybe one already has??? hmmmm

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I like your avatar, chickeneater.

That's exactly how the aliens are. They're creapy looking and sneak in on you, moving around all weird. But they come slowly in waves, and eventually they will break through our defenses.

It doesn't matter how much we try to shoot them down. Eventually they will land.

I feel like playing Space Invaders.

This has to be the most hilarious and absurd C2C story/image/bull yet. Honestly. I don't see how you can go off and call this remarkable. The only thing amazing is C2C would post this trash in a serious way.

I think its just reflection of the inperfect surface of glass...i mean everybody would've seen it if it was right behind G.bush since everyone's eyes were concentrating on him.

When ever the president talks to the media there is a crowd of reporters infront of him. Take a look at the pic. OMG...some of them are wearing white and since they are people I am sure they would move around. Its just a reflection of someone wearing white on a sunny day being reflected off the tint on the windows. How the hell did this thread get to the 6th page...wtf people come on.

Originally posted by pjslug

Originally posted by uberarcanist
Wow, ATS has sunk to new lows. No more blurry pictures, please.

No, this is what ATS is all about. Trying to find the truth with these photos, whatever the answer is. We pretty much know it's a reflection, we just need to find out who it belongs to and if it's coming from in front or behind of the door.

That's right though. You don't want pictures posted on here that actually look like aliens. You'd prefer blurry pictures of a blob of nothingness where you can convince your mind to see a UFO.

Real or not, I happen to prefer to look at images that at least look like the object in question.

Wait, so you prefer images you know for a fact are not aliens, but that kind of look like aliens? You prefer a picture that shows what you're positive is the shadow of something mundane but that winds up looking sort of funny thanks to tricks of shadow and perspective? You prefer Grey shaped shadow puppets? If that's your position, that's fine. I can't see that it actually does any harm and everybody is entitled to get their fun more or less however they want...it just seems a little strange. Are you saying that from the very beginning, from the time you made this post you already had decided this must just be the shadow of something playing tricks? If so, good joke, I guess.

It was posted here so you all can judge what it is. Why should the rest of the internet get to see it and not us? You aren't making any sense. If it bothers you that much, there's a boat and some flying rods that someone thinks is a UFO on another thread.

If it's the shadow of a vase or something then why would the board care what it really is? To answer your question, yes, I would very much prefer a blurry photo of something that might plausibly be a UFO to a clear picture of what everyone agrees is something mundane casting a shadow. I guess what bothers me is that when you initially posted, it seemed like you thought maybe this was a Grey. A number of people certainly took you seriously and some of them even agreed with you. Now you come back with "Ha ha guys I knew all along it was just a shadow....but let's play a fun game and guess what kind of shadow!" If you really thought this might be something interesting when you posted it, I don't see any shame in that. But what you're saying now, in your own words, seems to be that you never thought the image was anything other than a gag and that, since you represented it as "Hey this might be something interesting" you are coming very close to the definition of a hoax, which I gather is frowned upon 'round these here parts.

Upon further review it is likely a reflection. Of what, who knows. It did blip out for a few seconds, I feel kinda silly. Oh well.

Originally posted by peabody
Wait, so you prefer images you know for a fact are not aliens, but that kind of look like aliens? You prefer a picture that shows what you're positive is the shadow of something mundane but that winds up looking sort of funny thanks to tricks of shadow and perspective? You prefer Grey shaped shadow puppets? If that's your position, that's fine. I can't see that it actually does any harm and everybody is entitled to get their fun more or less however they want...it just seems a little strange. Are you saying that from the very beginning, from the time you made this post you already had decided this must just be the shadow of something playing tricks? If so, good joke, I guess.

How many times must I say it? Look at the first post. What I said is what I meant. The photos are INTERESTING. Nothing more, nothing less. It is up to ALL of us to investigate it and find out what it really is. We think it's a reflection now that we've seen the videos. When the thread started, all I had were the video stills I pulled from C2C's website.

Honestly, I'm getting tired of being attacked by people just because I posted something that I thought everyone would find interesting. If your comments are for that sole purpose, I suggest you don't post them. But believe me, I'll think twice next time about posting things I find that I think ATS members might like. People seem to care more about standing on ceremony than getting to the truth of an issue.

If it's the shadow of a vase or something then why would the board care what it really is? To answer your question, yes, I would very much prefer a blurry photo of something that might plausibly be a UFO to a clear picture of what everyone agrees is something mundane casting a shadow. I guess what bothers me is that when you initially posted, it seemed like you thought maybe this was a Grey. A number of people certainly took you seriously and some of them even agreed with you. Now you come back with "Ha ha guys I knew all along it was just a shadow....but let's play a fun game and guess what kind of shadow!" If you really thought this might be something interesting when you posted it, I don't see any shame in that. But what you're saying now, in your own words, seems to be that you never thought the image was anything other than a gag and that, since you represented it as "Hey this might be something interesting" you are coming very close to the definition of a hoax, which I gather is frowned upon 'round these here parts.

Again, I'll say the same thing. When I initially posted, I didn't know what it was. I thought it looked interesting. Don't say something I never said, like "Ha Ha Guys...." I never said any such thing nor did I try to pull anyone's leg. Back the hell off!

The image in the window to me looks like an alien. Though I leave open the possibility it could be an alien, it probably isn't.

However, because it does look like one, leads me to believe aliens are meddling with current events. A "sign", if you will. A not so coincident coincidence that touches upon the Jungian philosophy of synchronicity.

A most recent example was the resignation of Senator Craig. In his press conference where he defended himself there were birds chirping that could clearly be heard. The potential symbolism therein is quite fascinating, but that's for the Craig topic.

The symbolism here is even more intrigueing. I tend not to believe in coincidences, so I find the reflection behind the President that looks to be a grey alien just as revealing as if it were a real alien.

Give me a break! It obvioulsy a weather balloon folks.
In actual fact scientists have said that on that night because of small Meteorite
fragments coming through the earths atmosphere you can expect to see strange lights and ETs and UFOs but please be aware what you are seeing is nothing more than small Meteorite.
Alternatively in referrence to the so called grey in the video, please realise that that image of a solid et is nothing more than flares and/or lava balls that were floating around that night LOL!!!!

[edit on 8-9-2007 by spacedude]

The still showed on
Coast to coast
IS deceiving, because it has been captured just in the moment in which the reflex had the shape of an "alien":


Some stills in which the reflex has other shapes
I don't know who or what is the "owner" of the reflex; i don't want to know it, because for me is enough to know that is a reflex;
because the reflex shifts shape, is almost impossible to determine what is reflecting, IMHO.


[edit on 8/9/2007 by internos]

I don't think it amounts to much af anything at all. I agree that he wouldn't be parading around with a alien in the background.

Originally posted by spacedude
Give me a break! It obvioulsy a weather balloon folks.
In actual fact scientists have said that on that night because of small Meteorite
fragments coming through the earths atmosphere you can expect to see strange lights and ETs and UFOs but please be aware what you are seeing is nothing more than small Meteorite.
Alternatively in referrence to the so called grey in the video, please realise that that image of a solid et is nothing more than flares and/or lava balls that were floating around that night LOL!!!!

[edit on 8-9-2007 by spacedude]

You forgot about the little known swamp gas on the White House front lawn.



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video.google.com...

Dont you guys notice that the whole head and arms of this " creature" fits into 1 square window pane that is at the most about 7-8 inches square? That the window pane that the "creature" is in is about 3 feet off the ground? WATCH THE VIDEO!

Edit for idiotic Google/Youtube codes >:|

[edit on 8/9/07 by Pfeil]

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Again, I'll say the same thing. When I initially posted, I didn't know what it was. I thought it looked interesting. Don't say something I never said, like "Ha Ha Guys...." I never said any such thing nor did I try to pull anyone's leg. Back the hell off!

First of all, please calm down. I know you are frustrated over what you think has been a swarm of posts attacking you, but let's try to keep this party polite. From the title "Grey alien shown with George W. Bush", I guess I expected some sort of photo or video purporting to show a grey alien with George W. Bush. The fact that it took several posts for you to make it clear that you did not think this was, in fact, a grey alien shown with George W. Bush just gave me pause. If you are willing to say flat out that you never meant to pull anyone's leg, then hey, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Looks like you're a pretty smart guy and a pretty good poster. If you say this was not your idea of a joke, not only do I believe you but let me be the first to apologize for saying that it was. Sorry about that, sport.

We just seem to find very different sorts of things interesting. Like I said, I'd be more interested in a blurry photo of something that may be a flying saucer than in a crisp image of, for instance, a vase casting a shadow. I can kind of see where you're coming from, though, and I can see how for some people trying to figure out what mundane objects casts an anomalous looking shadow would have some value. For example, it might be instructive to consider examples of the ways people who really want to see something unusual can twist their perceptions to make something prosaic, seen from a weird angle and in weird lighting, seem like something exciting. We see this thing all the time in UFO, paranormal and cryptozoological research and it's something that everyone who is really interested in finding out "the truth" (whatever that means) needs to be aware of. So yeah, I can sort of see where you were going with it.

Edited: It left off the last few sentences when I posted for some reason (I probably cut wrong when I went to cut and paste) and without them the post seems less conciliatory and more snotty, which wasn't the effect that I wanted at all.

[edit on 8-9-2007 by peabody]

YES IT IS!
I know humans are skeptic so not all of you will believe
EDIT MAKE SURE YOU WATCH THE END
A SPIRIT APPEARS TO FLY OUT OF THE GREY AT THE END





[edit on 8-9-2007 by CanadianVandal]

Click on the CNN link and zoom in. Man if someone had this video in big clear format.

edition.cnn.com...#/video/politics/2007/08/31/bush.sots.mortgages.cnn

Originally posted by peabody
If you are willing to say flat out that you never meant to pull anyone's leg, then hey, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. Looks like you're a pretty smart guy and a pretty good poster. If you say this was not your idea of a joke, not only do I believe you but let me be the first to apologize for saying that it was. Sorry about that, sport.

Thank you. I appreciate your apology here and on my U2U.

We just seem to find very different sorts of things interesting. Like I said, I'd be more interested in a blurry photo of something that may be a flying saucer than in a crisp image of, for instance, a vase casting a shadow. I can kind of see where you're coming from, though, and I can see how for some people trying to figure out what mundane objects casts an anomalous looking shadow would have some value. For example, it might be instructive to consider examples of the ways people who really want to see something unusual can twist their perceptions to make something prosaic, seen from a weird angle and in weird lighting, seem like something exciting. We see this thing all the time in UFO, paranormal and cryptozoological research and it's something that everyone who is really interested in finding out "the truth" (whatever that means) needs to be aware of. So yeah, I can sort of see where you were going with it.

Remember what happened with the Haiti UFO Hoax? I knew that one was a hoax from the first moment I saw it. I didn't post much in the thread at all because of it. Regardless, people will still want other ATS members to comment on it and see what they can discover about methods used to create it. That one turned out to be a long thread, too, and there's nothing wrong with that.

We have the upperhand at ATS. These images we see, other people not in the know might just disregard them as fantasy without giving them the proper attention they deserve. Whether real aliens or human reflections, we owe it to ourselves to prove what it is. That is how we all gain more experience in the ufology field.