Cheney Orders Media To Sell Attack On Iran

hahahaha, im willing to bet we have a covert war going on full force with iran right now. the money is being exchanged and the US is figuring out the new democratic iran's leadership. The CIA is doin its thing, its probably going to be coordinated air strikes with special forces, mostly Air Force combat controllers. Then once they're done the new leadership is installed and we do peacekeeping alongside the UN. Bush won't do it without congressional or UN approval, he did it for both iraq and afghanistan.

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Hi , please do not let this thread degrade into yet another Brits Vs Yanks stand off , too much of that going on lately, I refer u to my previous post about difference in size of armed force !!

Kindest regards

Git

Originally posted by kindred

You American's can forget about any help from us Brits. Never going to happen.

I doubt we ever needed it, but it was appreciated all the same. Regardless of your personal hatred of Americans, I'm sure we will be there for you if needed. I wonder if you actually speak for all or even a majority of "Brits". What position do you hold that allows you to represent the entire UK. Are you Mr. Gordon Brown?

Well the news I am seeing on CNN is that Bush has stated that he hopes to withdraw troops from Iraq. Why is he all of the sudden wanting to withdraw? Maybe because they are needed for someplace else.......saying Iran maybe. I am watching Countdown with Keith Olberman right now, and he's bashing Bush big time. A new book is coming out this week about Bush and it's not very flattering. Keith is saying that Bush is talking about troop withdrawel to take peoples eye off of Iran. Could be. Not sure, but I don't understand how we can just wage war with Iran without going before the U.N. Security Council. Have the U.S. set up meetings with them yet, if they have, then I would really be worried. But for now, I am not overly concerned with Iran, I just don't think Bush is that stupid, plus I don't see the U.N. meetings happening. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't we go before them before we invaded Iraq. Granted we ignored what they said, but don't we at least have to do that first, if for no other reason than to at least show we are going through the proper chanels before we do something stupid.

Originally posted by Marid Audran
Nah, that is a Friday - nothing ever happens on that day because you can't manipulate the masses over a weekend - it needs to be done early in the week when most people are more available to receive propaganda.

I disagree, Friday works out great, we can all sit around and watch it on TV. Why waste all that money on munitions during the week when we are at work when you can schedule it during the weekend and keep us glued to the tube?

kindred, you have an interesting point of veiw, I appreciate your willingness to stereotype all of us Americans while taking credit personally to decide what the popular Brit opinion will be, not to mention all the Iranians.

Not all Americans supported or support the war in Iraq, but a larger majority of them support our troops regardless. Those are our children, brothers, sisters and parents over there and their safe return home is imperative.

The government will do as it always has and it will involve your government as well, like it or not, agree or not like us or not. Sit back and make the most of it, we are all in this together and we are all much more similar than many may want to think.

Originally posted by bhruifafn
I wish people from other countries would see that not all americans are greddy, and want what they have.

No wonder the bast majority (if not all) of the world hates us.

I agree. Im not all about greed either. But, I would love to visit other countries and be able to interact and share stories and talk about different lifestyles, or go to a pub and drink some REAL beer and chat with the locals.
From what I read on here, and other various sites, I don't think I would feel very welcome in another country. Which is why I have stayed local so to speak.
As far as the issue with Iran goes, I thought the U.S. has already considered their military a terroist threat. With the new laws that are in affect now, unfortunatley it's fair game as far as they (the government) think. Who will drop the first rock? Why not provoke them! If you keep poking a stick at a hornets nest, your bound to get stung! It's all about greed and that's all there is to it.
Just remember, every great superpower in our history has fallen within. And, yes, history does repeat itself. And I thought the eightie's were over with!

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Originally posted by the animator
so most of you seem pretty sure irans in for a hard time, any one want to make a guess on the posible date when this may start,
& who will throw the first rock ?

I have a theory how this might start, It's a long shot, but you never know

First the Israelis will bomb Iran a la Operation Opera
en.wikipedia.org...
Then the Iranians will retaliate.
The USA will then step in to help the Israelis

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Sorry Git, I'm not trying to turn this into Yanks vs Brits. It's just an overreaction on my part to the criticism of an already abomination of a situation which Bush got us into with no end in sight.......... now this talk of a boondoggle with Iran is too much.

I don't know about you guys, but idc..they have been saying stuff for the longest time and we keep getting disappointed. I've about had it. If they want to do it so bad, just do it so we can stop worrying, do it as long as you don't involve me or my bloodline.

kind of huh? ^

I have a chilling theory myself. Unfortunately it will involve a severe attack on American soil. The attack will be of such high magnitude, making level of emotion on 9/11 look happy in comparison. Yes, Cheney will orchestrate all of this and plant evidence on Iran. The ignorant media and viewers will buy into it, then a bombing Cheney will go, the constitution will be frozen, elections will not be held and the beginning of the Cheney/Bush Facist regime will be at an apex. Welcome to the NWO.





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I seriously doubt it. The problem with that is if we have another massive attack on US soil under their watch it will do nothing but prove that they haven't been doing their job and have been selling a false bill of goods all along.

There will never be another rallying around bush minor or cheney.

Originally posted by grover
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I seriously doubt it. The problem with that is if we have another massive attack on US soil under their watch it will do nothing but prove that they haven't been doing their job and have been selling a false bill of goods all along.

There will never be another rallying around bush minor or cheney.

Well, I respect your post, but when Chertoff feels that he has a GUT feeling about an attack on US soil it makes me wonder how big of a smile he got out of Cheney when he made that statement. Oh another thing...in the event of something in huge magnitude does happen, mighty midget Bush has dictictorial powers bypassing Congress. It was signed into law by one signature....BUSH. Have a look.

www.worldnetdaily.com...

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Referring to the post by kindred, saying:

"You American's certainly wont bring it about. You've failed miserably in both Afghanistan and Iraq and now you want to bring the same hell hole version of democracy to Iran. I'm surprised you people can even look at yourselves in the mirror every morning. But I guess it's easy when you dont have a conscience and dont take responsibility for your actions."

Are you for real? Insulting American people. You don't know that most of the American people also think Iraq and Afghanistan are failures? We do.

I can understand your post if you insulted our govt. But the people? Most people in America are just like most people in other countries. We work all the time just to feed our families. Unless you're very rich or politically powerful how can you control what your govt. does? This is the case for your govt. too (where are you from?).

What can the American people do? We try to vote for the best leaders, but what can you do when they're all bad? We can protest, but then what? There's really nothing we small people can do about anything. By "small people" I mean most of us living on the earth (unless you are very rich or politically powerful yourself you might be in a different boat). But most peopleof the world are just helpless cattle, there's nothing we can really do, except do the actual fighting in these wars, or go to jail.

It's like this in all of the worlds countries, all govt's are corrupt to some extent, lie to their people, etc.

I'm offended by what you said about Americans, but I forgive you.

Edit: I just read that you are from the UK. So how is your govt. any better? Weren't the British in Iraq and Afghanistan too? Should we say then that the British people suck because of that? Of course not. (I love "bangers and mash, and "beans and toast", by the way.)

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EBE154 I see you are fond of the Crabwood crop circle. Me too. Hence my user name. A timely message for us all.

Originally posted by rhombus24
September 7th will be the day something happens yup this Friday. Dam and I wanted to take a girl out.

That date is taken from articles that were referring to Sept. 7 2006.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

Originally posted by kindred

You American's can forget about any help from us Brits. Never going to happen.

I doubt we ever needed it, but it was appreciated all the same. Regardless of your personal hatred of Americans, I'm sure we will be there for you if needed. I wonder if you actually speak for all or even a majority of "Brits". What position do you hold that allows you to represent the entire UK. Are you Mr. Gordon Brown?

They've already been disarmed by their government. Their opinions are moot now.

heard on the radio that the military recently drew up a plan for Iran...Wipe out their military in 3 days by hitting 2000 targets..no US ground forces needed

As much as I see this as a possibility, there is no support for it, and the only thing being the overwhelming support catalyst would be a powderkeg, Pearl Harbor type of event, I mean an all out catastrophic event that makes every son and daughter say, lets pick up arms and sign up to go there right now without hesitation type of event.

That would be the only thing to drum up support at home, because everyone is pretty much numb to the shock and awe, sort of numb to 911, I won't say hardened but pretty much done with all of this.

They could take 2 days of spending on this war, rebuild New Orleans, bail out homeowners and probably some other home fence mending, but I heard that the president wants 30-50,000 more troops to go...does that add up at all against insurgents?

No one is complaining or not loud enough, I just don't know what will happen if the war does jump off, it appears we are not ready here at home.

No wonder! I just got home from work and turned on talk radio, and I got hit with a blitz of war talk about attacks on Iran...I thought something happened today that raised the terror threat level or something.

This order explains everything.

I listen to talk radio (mostly conservative radio) because I don't have a TV and I need some background noise. I just moved to a new town and I don't have enough money to buy a TV yet, but conservative talk radio is very entertaining...Plus it leads right into Coast To Coast AM at 9:00 PM here in Washington State!

To counteract all of the propaganda it would be good if George Noory mentioned this order by Cheney tonight on the show.

Well now...

I'm usually not one to buy into Prison Planet (Alex Jones seems to have his own agenda which all too often seems... ah... wacko, for the lack of a better term), but if this is true, it's a very bad thing (to put it mildly of the level approaching ridiculousness).

Sadly, I find this easy to believe.
The amount of anti-Iranian propaganda that's been spewing from the mass-media of late has had me thinking that this would be coming along sooner or later. "Start" selling war with Iran? Hell, he's only asking them to step it up and do so in an organized way.

Why is it so hard for people to recognize when they are being lied to?
If it wasn't for the fact that the masses are such sheep when it comes to propaganda, something could be done about this.