John Lenard Walson: Biggest discovery ever?

reply to post by waveguide3


Not that hard for amateurs to get good ISS images



Of course with a professional scope you get this



antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...



[edit on 1-4-2008 by zorgon]

reply to post by zorgon


There's something way to fishy with this walson guys images and little to no information as to how he gets them. To me it looks like he uses a low power scope with water or mist on the lense.

Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by waveguide3

Not that hard for amateurs to get good ISS images

What I said was it is incredibly difficult. Many amateurs produce fine images of the ISS, there's no doubt about that. I'm an amateur astronomer myself and have the hardware and software required to do it. But it's difficult, believe me.

WG3

Originally posted by WorldShadow
reply to post by zorgon

 

There's something way to fishy with this walson guys images and little to no information as to how he gets them. To me it looks like he uses a low power scope with water or mist on the lense.

Mr Walson's videos, fronted on YouTube by Gridkeeper, were discussed and established bogus in a recent ATM investigation. I also posted info on how I believe these hoaxes are created and made three myself for comparison. If you care to read that thread, you'll see that Gridkeeper was banned from the site over his behaviour during that episode. You can read all about it HERE.

WG3

Perhaps Walson can zero in on these coordinates on the moon for a good look at this objetc?

reply to post by MetisElara


Any one think the Star Wars beam weapon is one of those satellites?
All the talk, is does exist, it doesn't exist.

The government knows it works from Tesla and his tower.
The Van Der Graaff at MIT tower was nothing compared the Tesla's.
And Tesla generated electro static charges electrically, not with
a rotating belt.

No talk or tons of dis info talk leads one to a practical alternative.
Its real and its a fantastic beam weapon.
But lets not get into 911 and a Directed Energy Weapon at the
1908 - 2008 June 30 Tunguska anniversary.

Cause it may be reality too difficult to ponder.

reply to post by WorldShadow


That might be ether waves or now 'dark matter' waves.

Electrically active, the ether might be the cause of blinking star light.

rense.com...

The man did not descend from monkeys. The man is a creation of extraterrestrials. The extraterrestrials are descended from the reptiles and humans are hybrids (genetically we are almost equal).

Maitreya is an antichrist used by the rebel alliance extraterrestrial.

BE WARNED

Without intention of offending, this information is important

New world order

General Lex luxor (synonymous: Satan, Hades, Lucifer, Qetzalcoatl)
leader of the extraterrestrial rebellious alliance

the extraterrestrial rebellious alliance is a criminal organization responsible for the new world order


The plan of the extraterrestrial rebels consists of 3 steps
1° anarchy
2° socialism
3° Comunism (peoples republics)
And finally world-wide domination

One of the things that also need the extraterrestrial rebels are souls, these obtain them of the humans

part of the plan is to make believe the men who Jesus is not the king, who does not exist

The extraterrestrial rebels control the great terrorist and criminal organizations at world-wide level (for example: FARC in Colombia, ETA in Spain, Alqaeda)

The truth, Jesus (Kaile) is the king of the extraterrestrial ones, “king of kings” (therefore Jesus this alive one)

The kingdom (imperium) of Jesus is in a moon of the Solar System, approximately as large as Mars, call Titan (Saturn).

Maitreya is an antichrist is a deception of the rebels extraterrestrials (demons). The rebels control the anarchy, communism and socialism and its international goal is conquering the world. Their leaders are: The general Lex Luxor (Hades, Quetzalcoatl, satan) and Ela Morgana (Persephone, Shiva, Diana). They are on our planet more than 20000 years ago. Jesus (Kyle) is the king of extraterrestrials, but the rebels do not accept it.

Anton Lavey: "The choice is yours-Let the games begin!"

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
reply to post by eddiemaiden_80

 

Actually no you are completely wrong. Why shouldn't he? Only because it would mean the greatest and most important discovery of ALL TIME! I don't remember Einstein setting up a website about his "Mega cool new discovery" and to find out, you'll have to pay a fee. If he really has found something and he is holding it back because of his own disgusting greed, that could literally change the entire world, then he is pure scum and is just as bad as those who know the secrets but refuse to divulge. Actually, he's alot worse than those people.

Fair enough if he has to fund a major disclosure project but I seriously doubt it and is more than happy to tease us with this until the sales start to die down.

If i had discovered something like this i'd try my best to get sponsorship from somewhere that belived my story, get the information out worldwide and be happy in the knowledge that I blew the lid on it all. Selfish, greedy b*****d - I wish someone with interest in the progression of humanity made this discovery.

[edit on 4-9-2007 by dodgygeeza]

star and flag your post sir! I could not agree more sir!

Originally posted by Fulcrum29I don't remember Einstein setting up a website about his "Mega cool new discovery" and to find out, you'll have to pay a fee.

There was no internet and websites back then DOH and Einstein was a PAID SCIENTIST... it was his JOB to make 'Mega cool new discoveries'

One of those 'Mega cool new discoveries' was the REFRIGERATOR

The Einstein refrigerator is an absorption-type refrigerator which has no moving parts and requires only a heat source to operate. It was jointly invented in 1926 by Albert Einstein and his former student Leó Szilárd and patented in the US on November 11, 1930 (U.S. Patent 1,781,541 ).

Considering we all have one of THOSE I wonder what the royalty check was like?

If he really has found something and he is holding it back because of his own disgusting greed, that could literally change the entire world, then he is pure scum and is just as bad as those who know the secrets but refuse to divulge. Actually, he's alot worse than those people.

So it is your thinking that anyone who comes up with a cool idea 'that could literally change the entire world' should just give it away free?

How UnAmerican of you. And how stupid. That would mean every inventer and inovator out there would be included in your group and there would be no incentive to do anything I think they call that Communism and even THEY pay their inventors

If i had discovered something like this i'd try my best to get sponsorship from somewhere that belived my story, get the information out worldwide and be happy in the knowledge that I blew the lid on it all. Selfish, greedy b*****d - I wish someone with interest in the progression of humanity made this discovery.

Comparing this to Einstein is ludicrous...

IF you were looking for a sponsor you are still getting paid before you will tell that makes you a hypocrit big time... and IF you were blowing the lid off where are you going to find a rich sponsor interested in changing the status quo that made him rich?

star and flag your post sir! I could not agree more sir!

Very meaningful one liner...

So what have YOU done free for the betterment of mankind lately?

So what have YOU done to uncover and disclose something?

Hmmm thought so...

If John Lenard Walson IS a real astrophotographer, then why doesnt he stack photos from the objects the get a better resolution? Every digital astrophotographer works that way because it IS the only way to get a good shot with lots of detail. Filming gives you far less detail.

So i dare John to stack some photos from the object ..

reply to post by zorgon


I wrote this a long time ago.

My opinion on this also changed a long time ago.

I admit, alot of my original post was over the top.

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
I wrote this a long time ago.
My opinion on this also changed a long time ago.

AH So you have been on 'vacation' then? No worries..

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
I wrote this a long time ago.
My opinion on this also changed a long time ago.

AH So you have been on 'vacation' then? No worries..

It was my first month at ATS. You could say I'v "matured" as an ATS member.

Regardless, if there is any hard evidence, I don't think it will be found (or even be allowed to be publicised) with this JLW.

Originally posted by dodgygeeza
Regardless, if there is any hard evidence, I don't think it will be found (or even be allowed to be publicised) with this JLW.

I have to agree with you in regards to JLW... the whole thing was just another dissapointment... IF there is anything there it would be useless now anyway because all the BS in the presentation makes it valueless.

I even has a fellow through Boeing who offered the use of a really great scope... but the offer was declined...



the picture is still on this page... shows how old this thread is already

[edit on 10-8-2008 by zorgon]

I think if it's true, which i doubt, he is doing it the wrong way.

If he proved to scientists how his method works now, then he will become famous, and will be able to sell lots of books and dvds, and get paid to do documentaries and so on. As the discoverer of something so monumental, he would easily be able to recoup. By doing it the way he is, he just makes people suspicious.

reply to post by gonquin


When I first saw his imagery, the words of Kryon came to mind, from June 2007.

Source: www.kryon.com...

"The next big discovery... quantum sight

OK, there is one more. I want to give you this hint. Again, this information is in the ethers. That is to say that it is available for discovery and imminent. Humans must discover these things on their own, but we give hints. When the discoveries happen, you’ll know you heard it here first. [Kryon smile]

This is technical. Don’t worry, my partner. I’ll give you the picture. For years, astronomers have been putting special lenses on telescopes in order to give them different kinds of views of the Universe beyond normal light. The collection of ordinary light is passé for real astronomy. They now wish to collect radiation. They wish to have the spectrometry so that they can have an analysis of what things are made of. They like to measure the coming and the going of the speed of objects so they will have red shift or blue shift to know if objects are advancing or retreating from the observer. For years, they have been putting special lenses on their telescopes so they can analyze what common light cannot show them. Most of you are not even aware that many of the telescopes of the planet don’t even let you look through them anymore! It’s all about computer-controlled collection of what is hidden in the light, or what is available through other measuring methods. They know how hot things are, what they are made of, where they are going and their trajectory anomalies.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone on Earth came up with an interdimensional astronomical lens? And if they did, what would they see? They would see exactly what I’ve described. First, they would be able to see the twin black holes that appear to be one. An interdimensional lens is looking at gravity and time, and the warping of them into patterns.

If you were looking at the Universe with this lens, you’d see how the twins relate to each other, the pulse of them, and you’d see the strands connecting the galaxies very clearly. Wouldn’t that be wonderful? It would explain the missing energy, wouldn’t it? It would give the scientists the reason to increase the four forces to six! And... it’s doable.

Now I’m going to tell you what it looks like... almost. (Kryon smile) Number one hint: You cannot put it on the lens. It must go as close as it can to the receiving device. In the case of an optical telescope, that is the mirror. In the case of a digital telescope, that is its digital eyeball. That is to say that this lens cannot go anywhere but the focal plane. That will be meaningful to those who build telescopes. It must go there where the focus is collected. Hint two: This lens is not physical. This lens is plasma. The plasma is held together by incredibly strong magnetics. Oh, and it’s very cold. And those are the hints.

And when you develop it and when you turn it on and work out the adjustments to the magnetics that allow the plasma coherence, you will have the next step in astronomy - a revolution and a revelation. Physics will change; your reality will change; and I will tell you why. This is the last point I make in science before I close. I’ll tell you why. When you look at interdimensional things, one of the unexpected things you’re going to see is life! Life sticks out, because of life-force. You can look into a galaxy and the stars that glow [using the filter] will have life around them! How about that one? And everybody can get scared. [Laughter] It’s inevitable, you know? That is our science channel."

I don't know how Mr. Walson did it, but like many many out here, would love to have a similar setup! Maybe someday he'll share his revelation!

ATS Guest

reply to post by MetisElara


I've been paying attention and waiting for him to explain his "apparatus" so we can begin the peer review and recreate his results. Until then we can't claim these things to be real. I'm beginning to get suspicious, as its been YEARS now and still not even the slightest bit of information on how his apparatus works. His credibility in my eyes nose dives every month he continues to refuse to release information on his "apparatus".