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Originally posted by 11 11
Originally posted by TheBorg
Well, all that I'm seeing there is a reflection of light from the airplane on the building as it makes it's approach to it.
Wrong! I already told you, it can't be a reflection from the jet, as it was INFRARED. I have never seen anything in my life reflect only INFRARED, unless it was reflecting an infrared laser. The video is the only video that can see this infrared light, because it just happens to be a camera with a weak ICF lense.
Originally posted by jfj123
1. That dot is about the size of the nose of the plane about to strike the tower. Thats one big laser dot !
Originally posted by jfj123
2. Why is the supposed laser dot moving? When painting a target, it would need to remain fixed.
Originally posted by jfj123
3. I still see no evidence that the nightshot mode was on.
Originally posted by jfj123
4. Here's a good way to debunk the nightshot myth. Does anyone have an older camera that still allows nighthshot activation in the daytime? If so, could you please take some outdoor video and post it for comparison?
Originally posted by jfj123
5. Finally, does anyone know when nightshot was redesigned so it could not be activated in the day?
Originally posted by jfj123
Technological night vision works on one of two principles. The first is by detecting infrared radiation, which is a form of energy emitted by all objects regardless of the ambient light conditions. A device based on this principle is called an infrared camera. The second is by intensifying the small amount of light present even at night, from the stars and the moon.
Originally posted by apex
It couldn't possibly be anything so normal as a seagull in front of this camera, no it must be infrared.
Originally posted by apex
I mean, the only camera like it on the day, out of all those cameras?
Originally posted by apex
Originally posted by Nola213
HOWEVER! 11 11's post DOES bring up some major concerns about the possibility of an ABL being used to paint a target for the plane to hit. To guide it remotely to it's destination.
But since a single man with a laser designator can do the same thing and as we are assuming that the military has technology massively ahead of what they show us, why bother with the massive 747? I mean one guy with a laser is so much harder to spot than a 747, and even if we assume it can only be detected by UA175 (or whatever) for the last 7 miles or so (which a freefall bomb can), why use the ABL? 7 miles, even at 200+ m/s is a lot of time to maneuver with something computer guided.
Unless it's just a bird or something a lot closer to the camera, showing why it doesn't react to the explosion, since it's so far away from it.
Because it was trying to paint the jet and the jet is moving.
Here is a video, of a laser guided bomb test run.. As you can see the actual "reticule" of the weapon is where the laser is pointing. This "reticule" is operated by a man. Even when the bomb is not falling, that laser is still "painting" and "moving". Although it is possible to lock the laser onto the moving object, that "lock position" has to be chosen by the missile operator, if the operator needs it.
Now look at this old test of a laser weapon tracking an aircraft. In the video you can see the laser "leading the target" when it is turning, or banking.
Originally posted by shots
As for the pilot being a liar I doubt it, watching his demeaner he appeared to be telling the truth, you really should not go around acussing people of lying either, you could get your self into a big law suit for slandering people
Originally posted by jfj123
JamesSchumacher,
ummm.... yeah.... so james, do you know what this thread as about ? Not at all, in any way, shape or form what you are talking about.
And by the way, I have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about although I did not see the words LASER or WTC anywhere in your incoherent rambling.
You might want to move you post to another more appropriate thread.
Originally posted by ANOK
Show me proof there was a C-130 over the pentagon and I'll believe the story.
How do you know he's even a real pilot?
What about when you guys call 'truthers' liars everyday here.
DEFENSE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY...
I am the victim of the anti-christ/jesus christ conspiracy. I am the one in Denver right now.
My name is:
James Bernard Schumacher III
I just found out about the murals at Denver International Airport and I have been here since late January.
The truth in the conspiracy against me?
God was trapped by people being extremely cruel. And had to do things in order to get me to see how cruel people were... I can begin to tell you the cruelties of people.
I saw a light from the sun on January 15th, 2006... God knighted me that day.
He raised the fire from the ground, and put some influence to make me look to the left to see fire raise from the ground, trying to scare me.
God was telling me... It's the people, James. You must see this.
Actually, you do know what I am talking about I would bet. It relates to the backwardness since the military due to the Defense Intelligence Agency faked Roswell.
I think you know what I am getting at. How the conspiracy of the anti-christ/jesus christ, the putting me through hell, and having some sort of reasoning to put me through more hell in order of 'paying dues' to expose WTC.
It's a conspiracy in the sense people did sh*t to me, and then left clues as for me to expose the World Trade Center.
Like I said, it's the anti-christ/jesus christ conspiracy. And that relates to why 9/11 happened.
They conspired against the people that died on 9/11...
Although, by leaving me clues along the way, such as 'airplane fingers', etc... Which they tried to get me to remember, which I have now... And other things...
They put me through more hell however, in the sense that they conspired against me, left the clues to expose it, and now they act as if they will not let me expose them because of that fact. :rolleyes:
Originally posted by shots
I stated I could have mistated when I said a c-130 did you miss that part??
Originally posted by ANOK
Maybe you should watch your video again then? But the claim is that there was a C-130 the at the pentagoon, and then somehow managed to fly all the way to Shankville in time to witness the crash there. How convenient?
Originally posted by shots
...so I feel you are wrong in insisting there was a C-130 there because he said there was none and I would believe him before you....
I really to not give a darn about physics and your insistence our government did it, because I do not believe that for one minute.
Originally posted by 11 11
Wrong! I already told you, it can't be a reflection from the jet, as it was INFRARED. I have never seen anything in my life reflect only INFRARED, unless it was reflecting an infrared laser. The video is the only video that can see this infrared light, because it just happens to be a camera with a weak ICF lense.
Nope, the thing that passes in front of the other building is the exact same light!. I even outlined the flight path it takes, and you still deny it's the same thing? CRAZY! If you are going to just deny without evidence, then you might was well just stop posting here...
Originally posted by TheBorg
Remember now, they've found bodies of people blown out of the WTC towers over 1/4 mile from the buildings.
They did? That's horrible. Show me your proof of that?
O.M.G. yes it would be one wild stretch of imagination to think this infrared "piece of debris" can only be seen on 1 camera angle. G WIZ. Not only that put flying in a straight path?? BEFORE THE SECOND EXPLOSION? You have one wild imagination.
If you are going to ignore the infrared laser dot, then please, leave this thread, and go join the military.
Maybe you would be so kind TO READ MY ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
Ive already told you, there is a VERY HIGH CHANCE that the first white aircraft in the video was NOT the jet with the laser designator. If you would have read this thread, you would know that there were MULTIPLE AIRCRAFT in the area when the 2nd plane hit, you need to debunk ALL of them.
In the same video, near the end, you see this white jet pass by in the sky. This same white jet was filmed over the Pentagon on 9/11.
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That's not an ordinary jet, nope, not at all. Take a closer look...
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That jet, is the ABL.
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The small "bump" on top of the jet is a tracking laser, this is the laser we saw in the video above. It was tracking the jet that hit the WTC.
The white jet aka "the smoking gun" outside of the Pentagon, could just as easliy have been and far more likely the E-4B National Airborne Operations Center which also has the same hump behind the cockpit area.
You are right, it very well could be. Although, what about the jet that was next to the WTC in the first video I posted?
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It's one thing to look at a video and acknowledge the laser dot, but to come here and with your wildest imagination of thoughts, and straight out ignore it, thats beyond anything I can even help with. If you people want 911 disclosure you will surely have to educate everyone in the world about EVERYTHING.
Originally posted by ANOK
Now wait a minute, you are the one insisting there was a C-130 there.
Are you confusing your self again?
So what are you doing here if you hate conspiracies so much? Why is this making you so angry?
If you think we're just a bunch of conspiracy kooks why are you waisting your time arguing with us? You are offering nothing to the discussion other than your opinion about 'conspiracy theories' and what you saw on a silly History channel fictional program.
Originally posted by 11 11
IF it was a bird, why did it only just appear on the top left of the WTC? Your telling me the bird is 12+ feet and can fly from WTC to the other building that fast? In a perfect straight line? It can also become invisible for a few seconds, and then come back, flying the same flight path??
Saying it is a bird or piece of debris is so unbelievable I just can't even bother trying to fit the rest of the clues together when trying to "open my mind" to that possibility.
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