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Did the Space Shuttle dock at the Secret Space Station tonight?

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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by housegroove23

We are so lucky to have you be apart of ATS, your making history man! Looking forward to hearing more of your knowledge.



Couldn't of said it better myself... 100% Now its time go on C2C
and tell the rest of the world !!


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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Its Tuesday afternoon and I'm still in Reno on my way home from the Bay Area UFO Expo. I am going to set out in the morning (Wednesday) with 10 one gallon bottles of water and two cans of stop leak to try and make it to Vegas. I can't afford to pay anybody to fix my radiator here and all of my tools are in Vegas.

Please save all of your insults and criticisms until I get back. If I get back. If I should happen to expire on the way for one reason or another I will do my best to send you a post from the Big Soul Machine On The Moon.


You use to be a piolet for the FBI and CIA...yet you can't afford to fix the radiator in your car?



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 04:31 PM
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You use to be a piolet for the FBI and CIA...yet you can't afford to fix the radiator in your car?



How am I, as a seeker of truth, suppose to take comments like this seriously? All it says to me is that you can't be bothered to read, learn, or even spell simple words properly.

The debunking on this thread has been horrid. So far, it's consisted of 2 guys exchanging comments about the blurry pics of Interstellar. Most of Zorgon's data has been supported by official documents, none of which were addressed.

Truth be known, the skeptics around here actually are making John and Zorgon's case for them, by offering arguments that have no substance, whatsoever.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by MoonLightDrive





You use to be a piolet for the FBI and CIA...yet you can't afford to fix the radiator in your car?



I never flew for the FBI. I flew from the FBI.

Most of the money I made flying for the CIA I spent on women, booze and Cuban cigars. I blew all the rest.

I used Five Finger Discount to get the stop leak to make it down to Vegas.

And, you guessed it! The radiator is still not fixed.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 05:41 PM
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Well these automatic cargo carriers seem to hang about a lot I have just read that Progress M-59 took 3 days to dock with the ISS and Progress M-60 took 4 days to dock.

I guess they don't make robots like they used...now where's Robbie ?



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by sherpa



Well these automatic cargo carriers seem to hang about a lot I have just read that Progress M-59 took 3 days to dock with the ISS and Progress M-60 took 4 days to dock. I guess they don't make robots like they used...now where's Robbie ?




I was just going to mention that the Space shuttle taking 3 days to dock might be because:

Day 1 Launch and PARTY PARTY PARTY
Day 2 Sober up
Day 3 dock

But I don't think the automatic cargo carriers drink. Or at least very much. So why would they take 4 days to dock? Its not like they have to 'get ready' or 'prepare'.

Somethings fishy here.

You don't suppose that BOTH NASA and the Russians are lying through their teeth do you?



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 06:44 PM
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I would like to say "The plot thickens" in a dramatic yet knowing way, but to be perfectly frank I still havn't got a clue.

Something about Apollo 15 showing a lot of interest in Tsiolkovsky now when was Apollo 15 1971 ?, so why would they be interested if we were already there ?

Ok, guesswork, is this a case of the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, ie secret secret space command and I use secret twice to emphasise.

Alien mining, well maybe but surely we would have known about that before.

Was there 2 countries or more involved at that time independant of each other if so who else other than USA was involved Russia ?

What if another country got anti-grav before the US and mounted a clandestine operation on the Moon so the US needed to do some reconnesaince to find out what was going on.

So many questions I wonder if there is any single person who knows all the answers.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:16 PM
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A bit of related info on the Russians.

According to hubby, who was working in Space Command at the time, the Russians were all over Patrick AFB, Florida. They even had their flag plastered to the walls in a few key positions in the AFTAC building.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear

Its not like they have to 'get ready' or 'prepare'.



I'm pretty sure the cause of the delays is those new-fangled cup holders. It must be hell learning how to pound a few down in zero gravity.

New NASA Designed Anti-Grav Cup Holder - $60,000,000.00
Newly Designed Beer-resistant Space Suit - $634,000,000,000.00
Sucking Bud-light spillage-free on the Secret Space Station - Priceless



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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:23 PM
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I'm not sure they drink. They would vomit during ascension and descent, and the de-orbit burns might cause them to get really dizzy and not perform. Increased awareness is what an astronaut would want. However, they definitely smoke marijuana up there. Alcohol would be a bad choice, I bet they light up tho. In small doses, the marijuana can be equivalent to 6 beers without the dizzy feelings and digestive problems caused by alcoholic beverages.

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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by undo
reply to post by MoonLightDrive
 





You use to be a piolet for the FBI and CIA...yet you can't afford to fix the radiator in your car?



How am I, as a seeker of truth, suppose to take comments like this seriously? All it says to me is that you can't be bothered to read, learn, or even spell simple words properly.

The debunking on this thread has been horrid. So far, it's consisted of 2 guys exchanging comments about the blurry pics of Interstellar. Most of Zorgon's data has been supported by official documents, none of which were addressed.

Truth be known, the skeptics around here actually are making John and Zorgon's case for them, by offering arguments that have no substance, whatsoever.


eyem sorree four assking ae symple kweshton, jakass. eye wil du meye besst too spel korektly four u, sinse itz knot akseptible two maik ae sympel misstaik wonce inn ae wyle, beekawz thiss iz awbveeuslee gramar klas.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by MoonLightDrive





You use to be a piolet for the FBI and CIA...yet you can't afford to fix the radiator in your car?



I never flew for the FBI. I flew from the FBI.

Most of the money I made flying for the CIA I spent on women, booze and Cuban cigars. I blew all the rest.

I used Five Finger Discount to get the stop leak to make it down to Vegas.

And, you guessed it! The radiator is still not fixed.


So what's the point of having a gold mine?
I want to be like you when I grow up
Thank you for the correction.

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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 07:55 PM
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eyem sorree four assking ae symple kweshton, jakass. eye wil du meye besst too spel korektly four u, sinse itz knot akseptible two maik ae sympel misstaik wonce inn ae wyle, beekawz thiss iz awbveeuslee gramar klas.


Not only did you spell pilot wrong, you also claimed he was in the FBI. In short, you're assuming alot of things without any corroborating evidence, to top it off. What's the point of denying ignorance if you can't be bothered to find out what you're critiquing? I'm a female. John's a pilot. He never worked for the FBI. Etc. You know, if you answered questions on a science test with the same approach, you'd fail due to lack of even the simplest research. How can such a critique be taken seriously? What does it have to do with the topic? Do you think the fact John had radiator troubles or financial woes, proves or disproves his op or Zorgon's info?

Why are you here?



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:10 PM
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I want to be like you when I grow up Thank you for the correction.


Unless you're just here to play head games, I'd suggest you actually read the content of the thread. Read Zorgon's posts, check the links, read the material, view the PDF files, examine the diagrams. Do something more productive than this .........whatever it is you're supposed to be accomplishing here.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by undo



eyem sorree four assking ae symple kweshton, jakass. eye wil du meye besst too spel korektly four u, sinse itz knot akseptible two maik ae sympel misstaik wonce inn ae wyle, beekawz thiss iz awbveeuslee gramar klas.


Not only did you spell pilot wrong, you also claimed he was in the FBI. In short, you're assuming alot of things without any corroborating evidence, to top it off. What's the point of denying ignorance if you can't be bothered to find out what you're critiquing? I'm a female. John's a pilot. He never worked for the FBI. Etc. You know, if you answered questions on a science test with the same approach, you'd fail due to lack of even the simplest research. How can such a critique be taken seriously? What does it have to do with the topic? Do you think the fact John had radiator troubles or financial woes, proves or disproves his op or Zorgon's info?

Why are you here?


I'm going to leave it like that, too. I didn't "claim" he was in the FBI, I mentioned what I thought I heard him say on his radio interview with George Noory and I obviously misheard him. Debunk? I asked a simple question. Deny ignorance, oh, I don't deny it at all. I'm off topic? What does your gender have to do with anything? If I had to place a bet on your gender, I'd say you were a man, but that doesn't matter because I still love you.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by undo



I want to be like you when I grow up Thank you for the correction.


Unless you're just here to play head games, I'd suggest you actually read the content of the thread. Read Zorgon's posts, check the links, read the material, view the PDF files, examine the diagrams. Do something more productive than this .........whatever it is you're supposed to be accomplishing here.


Yes, mummy...



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:16 PM
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Yes, mummy...


Thank you. Now what do you think about Zorgon's info? Have you read it?
Any points you'd like to bring up, regarding the material? Questions?
Suspicions? Differences of opinion? Anything besides whether or not John has money?



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:22 PM
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Haha! Yeah...I did not realize that John Lenard was santamonicajohn. I have recently seen his photo stills and movie clips on youtube. Some of Lenards crafts look extremely similar to the California Drones, one of which was photographed about 20 miles from my home. Very interesting.



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posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:27 PM
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I am estimating that there are 3 and possibly 5 secret space stations the size or larger than ISS.

They are probably all in the same orbital plane as ISS so that moving between them is a simple matter of undocking, a small burst of thrust, wait for the next secret space station in the orbital plane to 'catch up' add a little thrust to match the secret space station and dock.

You could do that all day long with a minimum amount of fuel. And of course we are not talking about Shuttle sized OMS, we are talking small thrusters because we are talking about small changes in orbital speed.

This might be a good way to deliver food and supplies once it is delivered to the ISS. Maybe there is a little 'ShuttleTug': one small engine, one astronaut and a cargo compartment.

These secret space stations shouldn't be to hard to see once you know where to look. If, in fact, they were all in the same orbital plane as I suspect, you just wait for the ISS to come across the sky in all its brilliance and glory, then get out your binoculars and NVG's and watch the exact same orbital path that the ISS made across the sky for about 90 minutes.

You should see anywhere from 3 to 5 dimly lit space stations cross in the same path each about 15 to 30 minutes apart. Since they are probably equally spaced if we find one, then by using the timing it passed by after the ISS we can find the others.

Now, if all three to five secret space stations are all in different orbits then there is a gigantic problem of supply. They would then have to send up one Progress or other space vehicle every week or month to each separate station as it would be difficult but not impossible to fly from one secret space station in one orbit to another secret space station in a completely different orbit which would require a considerable amount of fuel.

No wonder the United States Strategic Command is so big. I'm getting a headache just thinking about the possibliities.



posted on Aug, 31 2007 @ 08:27 PM
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Haha! Yeah...I did not realize that John Lenard was santamonicajohn. I have recently seen his photo stills and movie clips on youtube. Some of Lenards crafts look extremely similar to the California Drones, one of which was photographed about 20 miles from my home. Very interesting.


That's it?

It does appear that the Lenard "Interstellar" related images are the weak link in the chain, and they are being used as a diversion from addressing the rest of the evidence. For the benefit of the readers, could you perhaps look at the rest of the material as well?

I'm interested in seeing what the scientific minds of this forum, think of the documentation. So far though, all I keep hearing about are the Lenard images. That's very disappointing.

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