Looking Forward To Chaos

I agree with the OP but only because I think the world and especially the US where I live is in such dire need of change. The only way to bring about this change is to destroy what we have and recreate it. Corrupt politicians, greedy corporations, apathetic people who don't care that all this is happening around them as long as they get their piece of the pie. The list goes on. There are so many evil and corrupt people that need to be purged. Like another member said above, we are all animals and can feel that something just isn't right. I have felt this way for a few years now. We can't keep going at our current pace of using all of our resources, fighting, etc without hitting some kind of critical mass.

I hope I do not misquote myself, because I only read the title and maybe half the OPs post. I gotta be honest. Call it ADD.
I myself am the same way. I watch CNN sometimes hoping for the bright BREAKING NEWS! alert to come on, hoping for some sort of action.
Why? Well, because my world is pretty damn boring, thats why.
I don't wish bad things on people. I dont wish to perform bad things on invaders to my country. I think I'm a pretty peaceful person for the most part.

After searching for he truth, This is what I believe I have found;
Humans still have alot of their primal instincts intact. The need to hunt, Fight for whats ours, mate, and protect your family from danger.
Having a boring agenda for life, ie, come home, watch TV, make dinner, wash clothes go to bed, rinse repeat, makes me so far away from my primal self that I... well #, I miss it.
So in that essence, yeah, I hope for Chaos, or War. A chance to get in touch with my primal self.
I think its more or less the essence of every war we've been in, or at least playd a small part of it.

Kaiwynn....You didn't misquote yourself...in fact, you pretty much said exactly what I feel.

I understand what a few people have said regarding 'trying out' survival methods, etc. The things is, it just isn't the same. The 'need' is not there, I know I can go back home and jump in the shower, safe and sound. I know civilization as we know it still exists, so that particular feeling or 'instinct' doesn't kick in as much.

IDK....I know what I feel, and I feel anxious and impatient. Something is going to happen. For all I know I could get into an arguement with my husband.

Again, I have no idea what is going on, I just know a lot of people are feeling the same way.

My husband and I have been talking about it.....what if the economy is headed for collapse, we get 'attacked' by 'terrorists' causing the market to completely dive, and mass chaos ensues, all in the name of a 'Police State' and the attack of Iran? *shrug* Just a thought.

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Yes, I also feel this way. Deep down inside, I hate the limitations of modern society, and I would be happier in the woods eating wild animals. This society we live in is so structured that there is never a time that you can use any of your natural instincts and they are suppressed. I used to be able to release some of these instincts by going deer, elk or bear hunting, but I haven't been able to get a hunting permit in a long time because in New Mexico where I live the amount of hunters is greater than the amount of wildlife, and you have to "draw out" to get a permit. I have to say that the frustration of not being able to kill something is really starting to build. I'm sick of living in a city going to work each day, and being truly bored. Also I'm completely sick of our stupid government, and they are pushing the limits of freedom loss. You can't even own property anymore, (property taxes) so you are still renting even if you own. So, yes as bad as it sounds, I'm looking forward to whatever "downward spiral" is about to take place. I think that our gov't thinks we will bow down during martial law. I'd rather die.

Originally posted by 420prajna
Be careful what you ask for

Exactly!

J.

Does anyone think that Downtowns comment of suppressed natural instincts could possibly be yet another form of control?

I mean, maybe the 'powers that be' have intentionally put us in the situation where our innate instincts are almost shutdown, to the point where, if not trained properly, they will be better used against us?

I have seen entirely too many Zombie movies....maybe Rabid had it right

IDk, people talk a lot of the 'Illuminati' and the 'NWO'...suppressing our natural instincts, to me, seems like one of the first forms of control 'they' would initiate. Then again....it could just be that we have evolved over the years and technology has taken over

I think you should consider that excitement is only temporary. The tao teaches that a mind that is consumed with hunting and racing consumes itself in the process. It is better for things to continue as they are, when change is needed it will be brought by the people. Although it seems infinitely pointless, live your life as well as you can. Die well from living well, besides that any change would just interfere with that end. The world changes anyways. We can look to our past and say, aliens were definitely here before, if they come here now, they might leave us again. We can definitely say that the world must have been a decent place sometime ago, it will be again ,but it may turn bad once more. Your life is just one moe, but it is forever yours. preserve the eternal ebb and flow of it, as that will maintain your eternal force. Bring order to it and reep the benefits of a quiet mind. Hear the universe, speak to the wind, feel the warmth of life. All these things are impossible in chaos, unless the chaos is a means to that end. Would it be nice to have adventures of fame and fortune, yes. Remember though that the gifted and celebrated hardly ever remember the meek and suffering, would you if a hero's fate was your own? The greatest good comes from those that are simple and so, true to their nature without distractions of wealth and popularity. Serve life. not chaos, which is the absolute life contests. so far, here we are.

Hey I do like racing also, Hunting and racing, all things that go fast and explode. I like blowing stuff up. Maybe my mind has already been destroyed. Well any way bring on the chaos.

Well, NewYorkee.... you've made excellent points as well.

I'm glad I started the topic, I enjoy having food for thought and in the course of maybe 12 hours, I have much to consider regarding my original post.

Thank you to everyone that left an opinion or thought so far!

Whilst not longing for it, I think should an almighty smyting occur so be it.
You have to burn away the old to produce the new, like in nature.
If there is some catastrophic event, there are a lot of self absorbed people who wouldn't have a clue what to do without a cell phone and a manicurist, let alone electricity or running water.
The old ant and the grasshopper story comes to mind.
I'm not a stockpiler or anything, but I'd like to think I'm prepared for anything in a basic fashion.
Thats one of the reasons I chose to study medicine.
You never know what tommorow may,or may not, bring.

Truly, the Herd needs thinning, really it does, The dross of humanity needs to be removed somehow, and catastrophe seems to be effective. It works for Atlantis didn't it? (LOL)

I get the feeling "something" IS going to happen, not sure what, maybe just an Asteroid strike will occur and finally bring the world together for once. (wishful thinking on my part) Most likely, if that did happen the ones not directly effected will take over that which was. I'm fairly sure if it hit the USA, China and/or Russia would step right in and take over whats left, I know the USA would if the situation was reversed

I have to admit, there is something within me that wants to see this hedonistic-narcissistic society we live in get destroyed.

It may seem kinda crazy, but I could give a rats *** about technology.

It is my personal belief that the modern society we live in is not good for the human spirit.

Why do you think we have a bunch of crazy people running around today?

Modern life is too tedious and repetitive for me.

I agree with the OP that there seems to be no more adventures to be had.


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Fantastic THread CSkys!!! As u can see from my username I believe that change is coming too. Maybe not a 'rapture' sort of thing, but great destruction and adversity to briong us together as true human beings we can live in harmony together without bring selfish and greedy. MAny of us on abovetopsecret hope for wonderful changes for this planet and humanity, and believe the world can't go on as it is now. THe truth is stranger than any work of fiction, and as long as you keep a faith and a pure heart, things will look up eventually. Let's pray that these dark times we live in will soon come to pass.

I am amazed, to some degree to see the number of people longing for chaos, in all it's forms.

If I thought that the PTB had any hand in all of this, I would think that instead of suppressing the urge to run wild, they are feeding it. Movies and TV make it look so desirable, and naturally, the big macho man gets the simpering Paris Hilton wannabe at the end.

Well, you can live your dream. Just sign up with the Army as a grunt and volunteer for Iraq/Iran. If you don't change your mind about how gloriously natural savagery is, you'll be in Valhalla.

Kicked back at a computer screen with the AC and a cold beer, it's easy to be another Conan the Barbarian. When people you don't know are taking pot shots at you it gets a bit harder. And the first time you have to piss in and then catch rainwater to drink in your helmet, it takes some of the fun edge off. Likewise, all those muscle flexing moves on TV look great, and stir young hormones like crazy. But the first time you smell the fresh intestinal contents of somebody who's dying in your face so that their very last breath on this earth goes down your shirt collar while you try not to puke, it gets real.

Sorry, you're keyboard warriors. If/when TSHTF, you'll be some of the very first to die.

I won't be the first to die.

My body is trained for combat, so I'm pretty confident in my abilities.

When the SHTF as you say, it will be glorious in my opinion.

My inner Spartan is crying for release.

Originally posted by NGC2736
I am amazed, to some degree to see the number of people longing for chaos, in all it's forms.

If I thought that the PTB had any hand in all of this, I would think that instead of suppressing the urge to run wild, they are feeding it. Movies and TV make it look so desirable, and naturally, the big macho man gets the simpering Paris Hilton wannabe at the end.

Well, you can live your dream. Just sign up with the Army as a grunt and volunteer for Iraq/Iran. If you don't change your mind about how gloriously natural savagery is, you'll be in Valhalla.

Kicked back at a computer screen with the AC and a cold beer, it's easy to be another Conan the Barbarian. When people you don't know are taking pot shots at you it gets a bit harder. And the first time you have to piss in and then catch rainwater to drink in your helmet, it takes some of the fun edge off. Likewise, all those muscle flexing moves on TV look great, and stir young hormones like crazy. But the first time you smell the fresh intestinal contents of somebody who's dying in your face so that their very last breath on this earth goes down your shirt collar while you try not to puke, it gets real.

Sorry, you're keyboard warriors. If/when TSHTF, you'll be some of the very first to die.

Geez...This was the first really negative feeling post we've gotten so far.

I must say....going to Iraq to fight a war that is BS is not what I believe any of us mean. Of course, I can't speak for anyone else.....but what I meant with this thread was the NEED for drastic change in society and life as we know it.

I'm quite positive that you don't really know the backgrounds of all of the people here. For instance, my husband is ex (if you ever can be) Spec Ops. He has taught myself and our daughters quite a bit and I think that the smell of intestinal contents would be the last thing on my mind if it were a do or die situation. Of course, I have no idea because I have not yet been in that position and hope never to be.

My point....I think you missed my point. I wasn't trying to induce thoughts of war and violence. More like the need for cosmic alterations and new beginnings.

Simply because I took offense to the comment.....I don't believe you achieve the honour of Valhalla by fighting a political war

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And that will in the end kill more first time combatants than any other idea. Do you think that training makes you bulletproof? What training will save you from a boobytrap that you never see? How will your mighty abilities change the trajectory of a mortar?

You are counting on skill, when any old soldier can tell you that half of surviving is pure dumb assed luck.

The other guy doesn't have a script. It won't be like some old Chuck Norris movie where each bad guy takes a turn at you, thereby letting you show off your wonderful moves. And some of those baddies will be just as good as you are.

Six months after situation X, when all the victims by nature have fallen by the wayside, then you'll meet the really tough ones, provided you live that long. And there won't be any honor or rules, no fouls called for whatever nasty idea that can be used. And they'll all be nasty ideas by that time.

But only time will show those who have no fear. (And while you're considering things, have you ever wondered why fear is a built-in condition of humans? It's there because it has enormous survival value.)

But, you'll learn that if you survive long enough.

Originally posted by CSkys
Of course, I can't speak for anyone else.....but what I meant with this thread was the NEED for drastic change in society and life as we know it.

My point....I think you missed my point. I wasn't trying to induce thoughts of war and violence. More like the need for cosmic alterations and new beginnings.

Thats what I'm talking about.

Our modern society is so lazy, weak and pathetic it's scary.

Seriously, look how convenient everything is for us, it's gotten to the point where we don't have to do anything anymore.

We don't even need to push lawnmower anymore, they drive themselves now, seriously.

Sure, the world needs change but there's one thing we all have to remember.

It isn't going to happen and if it does, it's going to be for the worse.

The West will always act high and mighty over everyone else, our governments will always lie to us and a certain country (not naming any names) will probably start another pointless war that will kill another million people.

I want change, but lets be realistic, it's just not going to happen any time soon. I've been visiting these forums since 2001, when I was 11 and every year someone post about a big event that will change the planet.

And yet, I'm still sitting here, haven't been nuked, oppressed or murdered in my bed.

Our modern society is so lazy, weak and pathetic it's scary.

We don't even need to push lawnmower anymore, they drive themselves now, seriously.

That's called progress. The human race doesn't need to go and hunt food or chew trees to get rid of a headache anymore. Sure, the majority of us are lazy, weak and maybe even pathetic, but look at what we have achieved.

We can cure most diseases known, snatch people back from the brink of death and travel to the stars. I don't know why people should be ashamed at what the human race has become, sure, were a bunch of murdering bastards but that isn't going to change. Not that I'm justifying it of course.

Everyone should take a moment to step back and actually look at what we've done, sift through the bad and be proud of ourselves for a change.

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Originally posted by NGC2736

But only time will show those who have no fear. (And while you're considering things, have you ever wondered why fear is a built-in condition of humans? It's there because it has enormous survival value.)

Are you sure, cause I know a ton of men who fear women. According to evolution, is there survival value in that?

Is that the purpose of fear, or is it a weakness?

That other stuff you mentioned wouldn't happen to me, God is on my side.

There is nothing that can harm me, I have the protection of the creator.



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