natural cures "they" dont want you to know about

Originally posted by tankthinker
seriously off the topic of trudeau, im not going to say anything to your post because ive already stated my case in past posts and i get tired of repeating myself.

Typical.

Ignore what you don't want to hear, right? The problem with most fantastic claims is no-one will consider the source.

If this was the head of a major hospital, someone in the government that is involved with health care, hell even a doctor, I might believe him.

Since the source is someone who has been proven to push frauds over and over again and is making a fantastic claim, I wont.

You can ignore everything you want but thats not in line with the motto of this site.


Deny Ignorance

Hi all,

YES, there are plants and natural ways to help people with sickness, however, western world has a way of twisting the truth and knowledge for us, in order to fit their need. That has been known to us for just about everything, religion, food, different cultures and so on.

They are not going to stop.

Now, that is not to say that some medicine today is not good. Some medicine will help people. Which once, I don’t know?

I read about Kevin and listen his talks, he took some of the truth and uses it and now he has money. It is up to you, to use what he knows and help yourself, same thing with religion, use it to help you spiritually but don’t start to "pray" to them, they are not God...unless you really want to, then that's your thing.

I always say, take same time for your self, seek the truth and find the way to help yourself. Do that first, then you can help others, but if you knew anything about seekers you will see that the truth changes all the time and that path is not short or easy, you will realized that you don’t really have the time for others as much as you will like, the truth never stops, it keeps going and going. New information keeps coming into your path and as soon as you think, "I got it, that is it", something else shakes that, and you get the picture.

Thanks all

reply to tiloke

listen we are making the same arguments about trudeau over and over, the exact same ones with different wording, the real reason i made this thread was to talk about natural cures what people knew and what people wanted to know. Not to talk about one man who everyone thinks is a fraud. If you want to believe im changing the subject, think that, but the title of the thread is "natural cures'they' dont want you to know about" and not "Kevin trudeau real or fake."

[edit on 14-8-2007 by tankthinker]

Here are my thoughts.. Holistic Medication is just as bad as modern medicne. Holistic types of things do what modern meds do, they prey on your weakness to get you to buy into them!!
I dont trust much of anything. If I get sick I ride it out. If I get cancer Im going to die. I dont want their lies, and their money grubbing hands all over my mind.
When in truth they can fix everything, heal the sick and cure the cancer.
But they dont do it, becasue if you fix everyone, then no more money to be made.. This is a sick sick world in which we live. Dont buy into anything!!
If its your time to die, then so be it, no one is going to help you. Becasue they are trying to be nice.. Nope they want to help you to pay their bills..

Ever get a cold sore? Rub a cut piece of raw garlic on it. It will be gone the next day. Why. Cause it turns into sulfuric acid, when it combines with the water in your skin.

The onion, has the same effect. Cut an onion, and your eyes water, because the gasses from the onion release a chemical that turns into sulfuric acid, when it combines with the water in your eyes. This is actually good for your eyes, it cleanses the tear duct and rids all bacteria in your eyes.

An excellent energy boost is to each about 1/4 raw onion, chewing it up well, and swallowing it down with salt water. It acts like a battery in your stomach, an regenerates cell charge and cleanses the stomach and upper intestinal wall, which is lined with mucus from bad food, which won't allow proper nutrient ingestion, which weakens cell charge, which allow cancers cell to take over, because alkaline levels get low.

This is why broccoli is excellent, because it restores proper PH balance. The onion will balance it out well, if eaten first.
Then, drink tea instead of coffee, and juice or water, instead of soda.

Bacteria. That is what sulfuric acid kills. But it doesn't kill healthy cells. Yes, it will burn you if not diluted. But sulfuric acid, diluted with hydrogen peroxide, is the cure for cancer.

A check on anyone who has tried to sell product with sulfuric acid in it, claiming cure for cancer and you will find the FDA has raided, or at least shut them down.

I went to a forum with doctors in it to discuss this, and they banned me. Didn't even get a chance to discuss it.

But, maybe if one has cancer, chemo is more fun, and safer

Originally posted by tankthinker
reply to tiloke

listen we are making the same arguments about trudeau over and over, the exact same ones with different wording, the real reason i made this thread was to talk about natural cures what people knew and what people wanted to know. Not to talk about one man who everyone thinks is a fraud. If you want to believe im changing the subject, think that, but the title of the thread is "natural cures'they' dont want you to know about" and not "Kevin trudeau real or fake."

[edit on 14-8-2007 by tankthinker]

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"I know Nigeria 419 is a scam, but I want to know more about getting this money."

Originally posted by tankthinker

no, natural things cannot be patented, it has to be your own creation.

[edit on 14-8-2007 by tankthinker]

You can patent the process to prepare these things for intake...Unless you literally take leaves off a plant and eat them, there has to be some sort of process involved and that is patentable.

To the evil cat.
And doctors don't want your money. Your point is mute.
Let those free of sin, cast the first stone.
I think those against natural cures, are making money
off of the unnatural ones.

My girlfriend worked in a nursing home. They had those
people so drugged up. One woman was taking 22 med a
day.

Don't tell me someone had their best interest at heart.
And quit trying to discredit this thread.

[edit on 14-8-2007 by stompk]

You know, if I go to the pharmacy, I see all kinds of "natural herbs" and whatever on the shelves...They clearly state on the bottle "prevents tumour growth" (in the case of Shark Cartiledge) and other such claims.

Why isn't the government shutting them down? Someone is making money off this...I thought they couldn't do that?

true dat stompk

and even if their is a patenable process it doesnt matter because other companies and people can sell the natural product and then just give instuctions

[edit on 14-8-2007 by tankthinker]

Originally posted by DazedDave
You know, if I go to the pharmacy, I see all kinds of "natural herbs" and whatever on the shelves...They clearly state on the bottle "prevents tumour growth" (in the case of Shark Cartiledge) and other such claims.

Why isn't the government shutting them down? Someone is making money off this...I thought they couldn't do that?

they can corupt the name natural, in the sense that only one ingriedient is natural, just like food if it doesn't say 100% organic then its not, they trick you with things like all-natural and stuff. the less ingriedients a product has the better

Originally posted by tankthinker
...but i was really hoping i could get more feed back about natural cures and not trudeau, cause that will just be a back and forth debated about the same arguments as it is now.

Fair enough. I'm a big fan of natural cures. There are very few people whom are against natural cures. If anything, the ones who decry it usually either haven't tried it, or haven't done it correctly, or used it for the wrong purpose. If I want an expert in natural cures, I'll go to a Chinese Pharmacist. Over 2000 years of working with various herbs, oils, and hollistic methods have made them pretty much hands-down experts in my opinion.

The problem is, you've linked what could otherwise be a very good discussion about natural medicine to a complete fraud whose name is so besmirched, that one cannot reasonably seperate the two.

It'd be like if I started a thread entitled "To Ride a Silver Broomstick" (by Silver Ravenwolf) and intended it as a serious discussion on Wicca. You can't seperate the fraud from the subject matter when it's in the title. People wandering in to the thread will simply not differentiate the two.

Honestly, if you want to just discuss "natural cures", I'd recommend a new thread entitled something like "Discussion on Natural Cures" just to avoid what will inevitably be a thread full of people denouncing Kevin Trudeau who, like me, immediately saw the title of this current thread and thought "good god, not another person fooled by that Trudeau bastage!"

so i just abandon this thread and start a new one so that no more arguments over kevin trudeau arise. i had already thought about that but doesnt the rules say that i cant start a new thread on a similar topic or something?

Originally posted by tankthinker
so i just abandon this thread and start a new one so that no more arguments over kevin trudeau arise. i had already thought about that but doesnt the rules say that i cant start a new thread on a similar topic or something?

Nah, it'd be perfectly understandable in this case. If anyone gives you smack about starting a new threat on this particular subject just refer them to the mods. I would definitely avoid mentioning Trudeau or his works in the next thread though.

Kevin Trudeau is a hack, a con artist and a criminal. He's been to jail a few times for fraud and has stolen millions from gullible people looking for hope. He'll get his...In the meantime don't buy into his garbage.

Mr. Trudeau knows more about the problems we face as a nation with drug companies than anyone has be able to express before..any fool who takes a medication where the side effects are more harmful than the cure is hardly gullible. Everytime my husband goes to a doctor they give him a new pill to take, so far we have 17 different pills for something ...even the doctors do not know what it is that my husband has to begin with. Doctors are given millions of dollars to push medications on people...this is true enough. Trudeau may have cashed in on his knowledge as most people of all walks of life do....his knowledge is priceless in that it teaches people to question what they are putting in their bodies. People are too trusting of doctors....and that really is gullible. Millions of people "Get" theirs everyday in the form of a pill, most of which is garbage. When the poor have to pay 80.00 a pill that is reported that they must take....and infact don't need to begin with, thats criminal. We have choices in our healthcare today, people never had that 20 years ago...If a doctor told you to stand on your head 2 hours a day 20 years ago..people did what they were told. Information...all information is valuable, its up to the consumer to make informed choices. Drug companies are not there to cure anything....period. They want your money, bottom line, they could careless how ill your child is...its how long can they live to take another pill.

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[edit on 14/8/07 by masqua]

ok im making a new thread called "Natural cures and their conspiracies"

I've always had the strong feeling that alot of illness or all of them, could be cured via natural means if you know what you're doing.
This may include not only herbs but more eastern forms of healing/health such as Qigong/reiki.

hey my Natural Cures and their Conspiracies thread just got deleted, what gives?

I honestly did not read all of the posts, so maybe this has been said:

Healthcare is big money, we all know this. If people consumed what we were meant to consume, much of the health issues that everyone has would be eliminated.

I'm not here to convert anyone but raw foods/vegan is probably the healthiest choice you can make for yourself and your family. If you buy market produce, of course there are still some issues, but it is still better than eating animal products.

Consuming animal products, IMO, is the single worst thing a human being can do to their body.

As for migraines, possibly look into trying valarian root tea. It will never give you the same effect as a commercial drug, but with time it will help.

IDK about anyone else, what I do know about myself is that once I eliminated animal products from my diet I lost weight, my skin cleared up, and I don't get sick. I also use herbal remedies for anything with the kids(for sore throats, swimmers ear, etc.).


For the person who said that they were told by a naturalist to use heroin....omg...what a nutjob!

Here in Asia, the doctors get extra income by prescribing
medicine that have nothing to do with the sickness. The
more they prescribe the more money goes into the doctor and
the hospital's pocket! Some medicine, i am sure, does more harm
than treat.

To build a good immune system, one should try to be a vegetarian.
Meat contains a lot of toxic which lead to diseases.
www.goveg.com...

I also tried Master Cleanse and Liver Cleanse from
www.curezone.com...

They are good to cleanse the body once in a while.

Now i am trying macrobiotics ,
en.wikipedia.org...

Good luck!