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Bloomberg Burned Badly By Brilliant Bros

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posted on Aug, 8 2007 @ 12:58 PM
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Mayor Bloomberg got a surprise when he went out for a subway ride recently in New York City, that place where hand held movie cameras, as opposed to emplaced surveillance cameras, will soon be restricted. Why is that darned Alex Jones always so right about stuff?

Here's a link to the infowars story:

www.infowars.com...

Here's the video. It's a beautiful thing.


Google Video Link



[edit on 8-8-2007 by ipsedixit]



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 06:44 AM
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That was certainly the longest--and undoubtedly the last--subway ride of Bloomberg's life.

The stunt of the billionaire/mayor riding to work like Joe Blow sure got its payback there.

And just what in the world is this restriction on cameras in NYC, of the most heavily touristed places on earth? This is stupefying.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 09:07 AM
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Yeah, what is with that anyway? Big Brother can watch you but you cannot watch Big Brother. I'm sure that at least some of the footage from 911 that was filmed by amateurs was helpful to folks on both sides of the issue. Not to mention many other crime investigations that are being helped. Can anybody flesh out the reasoning behind the decision to ban hand held cameras in NYC?



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Areal51
Can anybody flesh out the reasoning behind the decision to ban hand held cameras in NYC?


NATIONAL SECURITY.

Don't you know that is the reason for everything the gov wants to do now?



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 09:40 AM
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i could only stomach a few minutes of the video, its terrible. 'Sir why do you want to destroy the first amendment?'.

and the music of course. cant make an objective decision without music.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 09:45 AM
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"NATIONAL SECURITY" Well, can it be argued that civilians help to take part in securing this country through the use of their eyes, ears, and cameras? There's more civilians on the streets of NYC, in builidings, in the parks, in all of the nooks and crannies, than the military and other security forces. So it seems that civilians going about their everyday business doing what they would normally do would be a great help to national security than a hindrance to it.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Areal51
"NATIONAL SECURITY" Well, can it be argued that civilians help to take part in securing this country through the use of their eyes, ears, and cameras? There's more civilians on the streets of NYC, in builidings, in the parks, in all of the nooks and crannies, than the military and other security forces. So it seems that civilians going about their everyday business doing what they would normally do would be a great help to national security than a hindrance to it.


The FBI is hiring 15,000 CIVILIANS to be "rats"/informants to inform on the general citizenry...

www.baltimoresun.com...

The Nazi's did this in Germany... kept files on everyone through a network of civilian informants.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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Protests in NYC:

low res:
www.youtube.com...

high res:
www.youtube.com...

Final version of rules was in end of July. They go into effect End of August.

You now need a city permit and 1 MILLION dollars of insurance coverge to carry a camera of any kind on the sidewalk, including camera phones anywhere in NYC.


NYC CAMERA BAN
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS
FREEDOM NEEDS NO PERMIT
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB



I'm going to go climb onto the roof and paint a political statement now.

I am,

Sri Oracle



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 10:39 AM
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excellent post. keep exercising those 1st admendment rights!



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 11:39 AM
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Wow, I was shocked.

Don't know what to say about all that. I just learned something. I had no clue NYC has said, " no more camera's." What is up with that? That in itself is very scary.

People something is wrong here.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 11:46 AM
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New York city is a cespool of criminals pretending theyre free. In fact I would go so far as to say it needs a doctor..no not Doctor Who, Doctor Ron Paul. Just wanted to quote a dr who episode.

Bloomberg smirks like a "word i cant say here". That man, along with the Bush administration and many military generals and secret nazi military divisions who do theyre dirty work, should be treated like tyrants and treasonous dogs, like we did in the old days, only today.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 12:49 PM
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Hi guys,

Wow...just insane how can they do that? Can't believe New Yorkers /Americans will just sit quiet and see it becoming a reality?

I just see in the video posted earlier that it's only required if 2 or more people in a single public location in NYC want to use a camera for more then 30 min but the 1 million dollar insurance and permit needed is insane lol.
Also for 5 or more people if they use a cam with tripod for more then 10 min including the time it takes to set it up.... See the youtbe link..


Like somebody already said the reason why this is happening I think is due to some real footage people made with digital cameras/camera phones/pda of the 911 tragedy.

What I find quite sad is that here on ATS you americans really have strong talk and facts but on that subway the only one legally %^$#ing the gov with words were the 2 heroes with the cameras and great talk the rest of the wagon were just like sheeps.

I mean they would need thousands more police officers to control that kind of stupid law. Thus becoming a even greater police state then it already is. I mean cellphones cameras?? WTF lol..

BTW bit off topic:

www.nu.nl...

Dutch news translate it into babelfish so you guys can read it.

Seems bushie boy just signed a law that all tourists etc. will have to register online 48 hours before entering the US and pay a fee. Scheduled
in a couple of months ( did you know that the european airplane companies have to provide 33 INDIVIDUAL pieces of data PER PASENGER to the US)
33 pieces of info that's a lot about 1 person.
I guess it even includes the length of my X#$%.
Anyway European Union is thinking about doing the same to the american people travelling to the EU. Bit it's still far away Brussel didn't even look at the plans yet.
Almost whole of the western world would then be very very good controlled.

I wished Ron Paul would make chance in the US for president but it could become another JFK tragedy..

Police State a la carte

Nando out!

[edit on 8/9/2007 by PPLwakeUP]



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 12:55 PM
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dont you know. its because when the next false flag operation takes effect they dont want anyone to have proof. bet they wish they had thought of this before going through with operation 911.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by bokinsmowl
dont you know. its because when the next false flag operation takes effect they dont want anyone to have proof. bet they wish they had thought of this before going through with operation 911.


You know what? I bet you are 100% correct, my friend. How coincidental is it, with all the immediate threats and gut feelings, that they are going to enforce such a bs law. That way, when the next "Terror Attack" happens in New York, anybody filming without a permit gets hauled away to jail.

That is martial law, a police state, whatever. This gets my blood boiling!!!



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 01:53 PM
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In NYC, even prior to 9/11, many areas were restricted. I remember going up in 2002 and finding it frustrating that I could not use it to film certain landmarks.

This is not a big deal. Funny subway video though...



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 01:59 PM
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So far, I can't seem to find anything saying that the law is actually being passed. At most, I'm seeing "NYC moves to ban cameras." or something to that effect. I definitely disagree with this law, although those kids in the video were irritating the Hell out of me. Can't anyone ever protest without coming off as a complete twat?



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 02:51 PM
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All I can say is thank God we live in an age of micro miniaturization, fiber optic cable and teensy weensy spy cams that any mother who hates her baby sitter can buy. In 1968 we would have said, "Smash fascism!!". Haven't said that in a long time. It feels good.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 02:55 PM
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If this law passes, it is a HUGE step towards limiting freedoms imho.

NYC is a large percentage of u.s. to have a right such as that taken away in one step, it would also set a precedent. I don't see how it can be constitutional ... but a lot of laws aren't ... so not too far of a stretch either.

Is there a plan like 9/11? They don't want video evidence refuting the official 'story'? It definitely seems shady and counter-productive to finding a truth to a problem. You would think the more unadulterated video from as many independent sources as possible gives you the most angles and possibilities of clear shots of the criminals, crimes, and scenes as you can get ...

Oh, wait ... it is also being used to prove cops beating innocent people, people not resisting arrest, and has hindered a totalitarian rule by all levels of authority, who might have to be held accountable for their actions, instead of being the corrupt elite.

You know ... this recurring corruption of power must get tiring to the world. When the Tokugawa shogunate was overthrown by the imperialists to form the Meiji government in Japan, it was because those in power were corrupted and took advantage of innocents ... and even after the establishment of the new system, they had police swordsman that would become corrupt and take advantage of the citizens who were banned from carrying swords (which also put an end to the legendary samurai). It is sad, that even when good intentions are played out, corruption seeds itself and tends to destroy the hope, dreams, and liberties of the majority through the power of the few. Every society has had similar events, the people always win in the terms of absolute history, but many lives are lost in the process ... looks like it may be our unfortunate turn soon to follow the path of government control by fear and civil unrest. Can we not break the fate of other long-standing governments and empires of destined corruption? It is sad ... and not the future I was promised growing up in school


We were suppose to be an example of a free society, but, we ended up being no different than any other system ... it just took some time before the snakes started to steal our rights and happiness ... but we still have time to take it back without bloodshed. Vote or run for office. Speak out, write letters, print fliers. We need a new Common Sense for the masses.

It may seem like an over-reaction to some ... but how much do you have to give up before it means something more than an inconvenience? No video cameras in the largest city in the u.s.a. which is also a large tourist attraction in and of itself? Do they expect people to not want to capture memories?

I would like to see them try to implement this ... cameras have a better resolution than video ... it may prove to be the hidden curse in their mis-judgment. Most digital camera have a video option as well. I am sure they don't expect people not to take pictures ... and most people own digital cameras for the sheer convenience of using memory sticks/cards. Now, what do they do when there are a million people with 4-16 MP cameras, taking hundreds of pictures each though out the city, instead of a few hundred camcorders ...

hehe, the public, by mass alone, always wins. It is our freedom, and our popular vote should be able to veto any decision or law put into action ... if not, it would be enough proof alone to use the constitutional right to remove a non-obeying official(s) immediately from office and clear the books of unlawful laws.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 03:34 PM
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My company has an office in NYC. We HAVE to take pictures for my work. So, basically what I'm saying is that if this passes, I'm sure I'll be permitted and have the insurance thru work. If anyone wants pics from NYC, let me know and when i'm up there, I'll take it. That is if this passes.



posted on Aug, 9 2007 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by esdad71
In NYC, even prior to 9/11, many areas were restricted. I remember going up in 2002 and finding it frustrating that I could not use it to film certain landmarks.

When you went in 2002 that was after september eleventh 2001 so I dont understand your statement.


This is not a big deal.

Well, maybe not for you, and not for me either because Im never going there, but dont you think this kind of screws some people?
Namely independant journalists.


Funny subway video though.


Im glad you liked it esdad, I might actually have to watch it since you thought it was funny.



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