Two "Middle Eastern" Men Pulled Over in SC with Explosives (Updated)

Originally posted by 11Bravo


Like Timothy McVeigh?
Like the Virginia Tech killer?
Like any number of street gangs that terrorize American streets?
Muslim like the KKK right?
What about the ADL, they terrorize people.
The IRS, they are terrorizing Ed Brown.
I could go on but I wont.

Those were individuals or localized groups or someone who went off their rocker like the mail bomber they cannot be defined as true terrorists although I do agree the PETA and ELF sure would qualify however they do not go around killing thousands either, those that they do attack are very limited in numbers.

Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist...period.

Originally posted by Valhall
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist...period.

Care to back that statement up with a little proof? The mainstream media has claimed it, I realize that, however doesn't it really come down to what story you want to believe? There are many who feel McVeigh was nothing more than the fall guy.

Originally posted by Valhall
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist...period.

Oh come on Val you know that cannot be true if you believe in the conspiracy theory around him according to that he was just a patsy used by the govnerment and others.

Frankly I think he was seeking revenge for WACO but even I could be wrong.

[edit on 8/5/2007 by shots]

Other alternative theories as to why terrorists would be in South Carolina could be

1. The terrorists could be in transit. They could have picked up their explosives somewhere in the south (maybe the US-Mexican border) and were moving north towards New York or Washington D.C.

2. They may have intended to strike in the heartland, as opposed to a big city. We all understand why terrorists would want to strike a major US city, but there are advantages to striking the US in its heartland. The major reason why a terrorist would want to do this is that it would be the most effective tool in obtaining their political objectives.

The ultimate goal of terrorism is to accomplish some sort of political objective by using violence to send a message or try to convince others to agree with you. People in the nation's heartland are more likely to support political views that an Islamic fundamentalist terrorist oppose like Bush's policies in the Middle East. Striking in the heartland, as oposed to the big city, would be an effective means to "send a message" to a segment of the American population who they may find particularly loathesome.

There are other reasons why striking at the heartland would be prefered over striking a major city. For one thing, many people feel the heartland is safe because terrorists only want to strike big cities. If the terrorists strike a small town, then more people are going to feel any town can be stricken. Striking a town in the middle of America would also have a devastating psychological effect as it would send the message terrorists are capable of striking America anywhere, even it its "well guarded" interior, as opposed to striking on its "less guarded" exterior where many large cities like New York, Washington D.C. and Los Angeles lie.

[edit on 5-8-2007 by hotpinkurinalmint]

Originally posted by hal4511
I live in South Carolina and I'll tell you something else ..... in the upstate there's the Oconee nuclear station and above it the Bad Creek 'so called' hollowed out mountain that no one can get close to ...

And above that in NC in a straight line is the NASA tracking station that you can't get close to either. Its all a bit strange especially when you see the big army helicopters flying back and forth with very large crates underneath in the summer time.

Does tend to make one wonder whats going on ...

You forgot about Catawba Nuclear Sation in Lake Wylie! I live 30 minutes from there. There are many potential targets in SC.

I don't understand what the crack about the fireworks was all about.
I guess some people are just ignorant by choice! SC is a great place to live.

Charleston is an absolutely wonderful place to visit and Hymans Seafood is the best, by far, seafood that I have ever had!

Originally posted by 11Bravo
yes this sounds scary

NOT.

Good for you, we know you are a "brave man/woman"... Want a cookie now?

Originally posted by 11Bravo
I bet it is fireworks or some other relativly harmless device.

How do you know that?... Do you have some inside information that hasn't been posted yet?..

Originally posted by 11Bravo
BUT just to be safe we better shut down both lanes of travel, and clear out atleast a 50 mile radius.
You know, just to be safe.

......If authorities suspect those are explosive devices yes, it is safer not to allow anyone close to that area....otherwise you get some people claiming if something happens that "the government knew it and they did nothing"....

Originally posted by 11Bravo
Its a good thing the feds are all over this.
You know how us brave Americans love to be kept safe.

Yeah, i guess some people think they are invincible and immune to explosive devices...

Originally posted by BugZyZuncle
I don't understand what the crack about the fireworks was all about.
I guess some people are just ignorant by choice! SC is a great place to live.

Don't take it personally. Most threats here are taken as a joke by many unless something actually happens. And if something does happen, it's either the government's fault or the Jews did it.

The item made a loud bang, similar to a firecracker, when it was demolished, authorities said. Federal officials later said there was "no immediate threat."

A little overreacting on everyones part...

Originally posted by elderban

The item made a loud bang, similar to a firecracker, when it was demolished, authorities said. Federal officials later said there was "no immediate threat."

A little overreacting on everyones part...

We would appreciate if you actually gave a link to that excerpt you made.

Anyways...you never know whether "you are overeacting to a possible threat until it is proven there is no threat". Or at least "logic" would tell us.

Originally posted by BugZyZuncle

Originally posted by hal4511
I live in South Carolina and I'll tell you something else ..... in the upstate there's the Oconee nuclear station and above it the Bad Creek 'so called' hollowed out mountain that no one can get close to ...

And above that in NC in a straight line is the NASA tracking station that you can't get close to either. Its all a bit strange especially when you see the big army helicopters flying back and forth with very large crates underneath in the summer time.

Does tend to make one wonder whats going on ...

You forgot about Catawba Nuclear Sation in Lake Wylie! I live 30 minutes from there. There are many potential targets in SC.

I don't understand what the crack about the fireworks was all about.
I guess some people are just ignorant by choice! SC is a great place to live.

Charleston is an absolutely wonderful place to visit and Hymans Seafood is the best, by far, seafood that I have ever had!

Yep Hymans is outstanding ......

Originally posted by elderban

The item made a loud bang, similar to a firecracker, when it was demolished, authorities said. Federal officials later said there was "no immediate threat."

A little overreacting on everyones part...

Right, you obviously havent ever been hit by an IED.

It doesnt take large amounts of explosives to injure a person, and it takes a very small amount to incite terror in people.

My biggest fear is IEDs on American streets. I think a 2 year IED campaign on American vehicles would be more devastating than another 911.

They were right to shut down the freeway.

I was given a medical discharge from the Army and a 50% VA dissability rating from an IED that sounded to me like a firecracker.





[edit on 5-8-2007 by cavscout]

Originally posted by cavscout
Right, you obviously havent ever been hit by an IED.

Obviously most people havent ever been hit by an IED cav.
That tends to happen when people are occupying foreign land.

My biggest fear is IEDs on American streets. I think a 2 year IED campaign on American vehicles would be more devastating than another 911.

I feel your pain man. I know my words mean little to you but the reason I do most of what I do is to try to get my brothers home so that they dont have to drive around foreign streets until the road blows up beneath them.

You are safe here man, so dont be afraid of IEDs on American streets. There are no hordes of Muslims just waiting to blow up America.
Thats a myth created to instigate fear.
There are how ever hordes of Arabs that want nothing more than to drive the occupying American army out of their land.
Just like the Vietnemese wanted us out of their land.
Just like I would do my best to expell anybody that invaded America to remove Bush.

It made a sound like a firecracker....people also stated the towers when falling sounded like explosions. Does this make them fact since someone stated it seemed like that?

This is bieng covered up, like so many other things that have occured in the last 6 months. Something is coming and things like this are not reassurance that the government has it all under control. I do not get the fear mongering thing. I mean, if the government was sooo evil and they puportrated 9/11, I think they could keep everyone scared. All I see is brand new cars, HDTV and Starbucks.

The first IED that takes out a school bus wil change the thinking of hte nation.

Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning. Among the potential charges is possession of unlawful explosives. Officials are not at this time releasing any additional information on the number of charges or types of explosive devices they found. Highway 176 in Goose Creek was shut down and has since reopened. Stay tuned to ABC News 4 and www.abcnews4.com for details as they become available.

[edit on 5-8-2007 by esdad71]

I think that most terrorists do not come in here carrying fully assembled bombs. They assemble them from scratch thru their networks here. As long as we keep the heat on thru highway stops as in this thread it ups the risk for the cells. Most detonations I know of rely on small explosive triggers whether nuclear or conventional. The post above about IED by Cav is on the money too. IED means Improvised A visit to our vets hosps will change quite a few minds as well.
add the rocket launcher found and that rocket in florida scrapyards and its obvious this enemy is hell bent on doing something here. At this point an act anywhere in the US is a synergistic catalyst for their sympathizer cells also everywhere.

SyS

Originally posted by esdad71
The first IED that takes out a school bus wil change the thinking of hte nation.

Exactly. And the second IED will drive it home. And after the third and fourth, people will drive half as much and our politicians will not be able to tell people to "keep driving" with a strait face.

And of course without us on the roads, our economy takes a huge hit. EVERYTHING is tied to oil in some way and when we stop using it long enough, we will leave the oil rich nations alone. Then the big players can declare martial law at home and find some other way to profit from us, while using the civil unrest as a reason to pull troops out of those oil rich nations.

Truth be told, I am actually surprised we haven’t seen IEDs yet in North America. I fear for every Arab looking dark skinned person without a Spanish accent in the US at that time.

And I hate to say it, but I fear for myself. I function because I can block out bad thoughts during my waking time. I still get nervous driving past roadside trash, sometimes I cant do it, I find another route. IEDs here at home would send me into the hills for good, I just couldn’t handle that.

Everyone is so worried about nuke attacks and buildings falling but I think roadside bombs would be more devastating overall.

I wonder if, in that situation, they would confiscate guns or let them remain so we could “defend ourselves” from brown skinned men. Note to self: stay out of the sun.

Originally posted by 11Bravo
You are safe here man, so dont be afraid of IEDs on American streets. There are no hordes of Muslims just waiting to blow up America.

Well you may be right, but someone is waiting to blow up America, either Muslims, bankers, politicians, home grown terrorists…. I don’t give a crap who it is, it scares me. I dont want to live in New Baghdad, USA. I suppose we have it coming to us, especially those of us who participated in the occupation of Iraq, but I still fear it. I aint joking, I would head to the hills and the world would never hear from my family or me again. We would spend our lives eating berries and craping in the forest.

Just like I would do my best to expell anybody that invaded America to remove Bush.

Funny you mentioned that. The above is what I was thinking the entire time I was in Iraq, that I would be doing the same thing if a foreign nation liberated us from our regime. It didn’t make it any harder to fight when the bullets started flying and the bombs started going off, but it always made it harder to sleep at night.

After the third or fourth bomb, I would very seriously consider the forceful removal, imprisonment, and torture of everyone in a position that is paid for by the American people. They are our servants and they have been criminal in their neglect of duty and squandering of resources for the purposes of furthering an agenda of profit.

Jon

Thanks esdad71. I didn't notice the update.

I didn't see this in the quote, but its in the article now.

The men had atleast one ready to go bomb and bomb making materials that include chemicals.
ABCNews4

[edit] *Note the above quote is no longer in the linked report.



[edit on 8/5/07 by makeitso]