Arab Princesses Kicked Off Plane After Refusing Seat Assignments

Arab Princesses Kicked Off Plane After Refusing Seat Assignments

www.dailymail.co.uk

Three Arab princesses were thrown off a packed British Airways flight after refusing to sit next to male passengers they didn't know.

The dispute - in which the three princesses from the ultra-conservative Qatar royal family demanded segregated seating - left the London-bound plane delayed on a baking Italian runway for nearly three hours.

Furious passengers whistled and clapped as the row intensified before the captain eventually ordered the women to be escorted off the plane.

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I'm glad they got kicked off. If these princesses were so concerned about this, why didn't they arrange their own chartered flight, or at least buy empty seats next to themselves?

www.dailymail.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Of course, *sigh*, there was a need to make sure everyone knew they were Arab princesses, with the latest propaganda war on the subject. :shk:

I don't mean that to you personally, either, Djohnsto77, but I would hope you realize that anyhow. But if two Valley Girls were whining about their seating and getting kicked off, it wouldn't make headlines (unless it was Paris Hilton or Lindsey Lohan, who thankfully are not Valley Girls).

They should have been kicked off, they should have prearranged this. I'm just so tired of seeing it labeled like it is. It's more than obvious that there is a propaganda towards Arabs (some self-inflicted by certain nutso sects.)

But I don't see articles saying "White Dude Doesn't Get To Fly, After Sitting Next To Smelly Lady."

These stories are notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Islamic peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

[edit on 7/29/2007 by djohnsto77]

What I find extremely ironic is the "right" of Arab women to not be seated with male strangers and the real rights of women in most Arab countries. What if that same princess demanded that she be allowed to wear whaterver she wanted or marry whomever she wanted of wanted to *gasp* vote? Wonder what would happen to her then.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
These stories are notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Islamic peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

Hmm careful there dj, you cannot infer that much from this story.

British Airways has a policy of not allowing unaccompanied children from being seated next to men. I'm sure you have no problem with that requirement and neither do I. However, there is about as much justification for such a practice as these Princesses demanding not to be seated next to unknown men.

The chances of impropriety stemming from a man sitting next to a woman are statistically greater than that of a child sitting next to a man, yet we find this 'Islamic response' unacceptable. It is interesting to say the least.

I'm not condoning their behaviour and I'm not condemning it either. I just find in interesting how society treats the two examples of very similar seating concerns because one stems from something we understand and worry about, and the other comes from those frumpy Islamics.

[edit on 29/7/07 by subz]

I'm glad they were kicked off the plane, people like that (that try to impose their
beliefs on others or think they're better than others) are absolutely disgusting to me.


I have some questions about this to.

1. If they're princesses, why exactly were they taking a commercial flgiht.
(Not that I have a problem with it, just curious.)
2. Why did'nt they do like what dj said, that is charter a plane or buy the seats next to them.
3. Why did'nt they bring male family members to sit next to them.

Originally posted by iori_komei
I'm glad they were kicked off the plane, people like that (that try to impose their
beliefs on others or think they're better than others) are absolutely disgusting to me.


I have some questions about this to.

1. If they're princesses, why exactly were they taking a commercial flgiht.
(Not that I have a problem with it, just curious.)
2. Why did'nt they do like what dj said, that is charter a plane or buy the seats next to them.
3. Why did'nt they bring male family members to sit next to them.

Because they expect that since they are Arab Princesses, they will have their way and people will listen to their crap, and bow down.

[edit on 29-7-2007 by Megadeth]

The only part of this story that confuses me is that they mention the Qatar royal family being very conservative.

The devout Muslims who I know would not let female members of their family travel unaccompanied, certainly not long distances.

I dislike turning things into religious issues myself, but this did strike me as very odd based on the people I myself know.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
These stories are notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Islamic peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

[edit on 7/29/2007 by djohnsto77]

Funny, I find these stories notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Western peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

Originally posted by Djarums
The devout Muslims who I know would not let female members of their family travel unaccompanied, certainly not long distances.

Well it appears they were part of a larger group, I guess the seating assignments left them sitting next to non-relatives and the problem couldn't be resolved just by rearranging members of their party.

Originally posted by Djarums
The only part of this story that confuses me is that they mention the Qatar royal family being very conservative.

The devout Muslims who I know would not let female members of their family travel unaccompanied, certainly not long distances.

I dislike turning things into religious issues myself, but this did strike me as very odd based on the people I myself know.

How is this very odd? This IS highly conservative and terribly out of character considering PUBLIC transportation is just that - PUBLIC. I agree with the posters above, if you have outstanding religious beliefs about the subject, BUY THE SEATS NEXT TO YOU. They are ARAB PRINCESSES' by the article's account, I am sure they could afford another seat if it is that important. If I am so FAT as to physically require another seat they will not hesitate to make me buy another seat for my body to rest in, how is this different?

Originally posted by vox2442

Originally posted by djohnsto77
These stories are notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Islamic peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

[edit on 7/29/2007 by djohnsto77]

Funny, I find these stories notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Western peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

Funny, like above I find this is notable because of the global occurrences to suggest this IS a highly conservative belief system and if it is that MUCH of a problem with their beliefs they NEED to purchase the seats next to them to ensure no one MALE will sit there.

NO ONE is going to ENSURE that a fat, smelly woman with obnoxious children will not sit next to me because, OH SNAP, it's PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. Everyone is treated indifferently regardless of your "beliefs" because simply put, if you have a problem with seating arrangement, if it is that big of a deal you can pay YOUR OWN MONEY to make sure it is NOT a problem.

Originally posted by iori_komei
1. If they're princesses, why exactly were they taking a commercial flgiht.
(Not that I have a problem with it, just curious.)

It seems like every other person coming out of Qatar is a member of the royal family, I doubt they have that enough private aircraft to support them all.

If it were members of the British Royal Family or "royals" from some other country it would have got the same amount of media attention as this did. So please don't turn this is into a "it's in the spotlight because they're arabic/muslim" thread. Noone wants to hear that crap.


[edit on 30/7/2007 by SportyMB]

Originally posted by vox2442
Funny, I find these stories notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Western peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

This isn't a report of Westerners traveling in a Muslim country demanding that they accommodate their idiosyncratic beliefs, but Muslims traveling in Western countries demanding that special treatment.

I doubt I'd get far demanding to be served a scotch if I was in Saudi Arabia... in fact, I'd probably be sent to prison and be beaten by the religious police.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
I doubt I'd get far demanding to be served a scotch if I was in Saudi Arabia... in fact, I'd probably be sent to prison and be beaten by the religious police.

Really? "Probably"?

I'd like to see some recent evidence suggesting that your "probable" outcome would, in fact, be the most likely. Have any links describing Americans being "beaten by religious police" for demanding/requesting scotch recently, or are you just taking potshots at Saudi Arabia?

Oh my, your ignorance is showing. The Muttawa are famous for such things. Just do a search.

Here's something:

www.asianews.it...

Riyadh (AsiaNews) – On October 20, a Saudi court in Deerah near Riyadh sentenced Brian Savio O'Connor, a Indian Christian resident in Saudi Arabia, to ten months in prison and 300 lashes for selling "alcoholic beverages", this according to Middle East Concern (MEC), an organisation dedicated to the fate of Christians in the Middle East that has been monitoring the case of the Protestant man from the south-eastern Indian state of Karnataka.

Mr O'Connor has been incarcerated in Olaya prison since March 25 after the Muttawa, the Saudi religious police, abducted him from home and tortured for 24 hours in a mosque.

He was later charged with preaching Christianity, selling alcohol, drug use and possession of pornographic videos. He has always denied the charges, but has acknowledged leading Bible studies in his home for expatriate Christians after the authorities published information in the local press whereby non-Muslims could practice their religion at home. In practice, religious freedom does not exist in the country except for Muslims and any religious activity outside Islam is considered a felony.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
Oh my, your ignorance is showing.

On the contrary, it is your ignorance that is showing.

First, I asked for recent information, not 3 years old.

Second, I asked for information regarding "Americans being "beaten by religious police" for demanding/requesting scotch", not for actually selling alcohol. There is a big difference between demanding/requesting, and actually selling.

Well if some moron argues about there seating arangement AFTER they've boarded the plane AND OR after they've checked in. It's THERE fault they got kicked from the flight. What idiots.

Honestly, this is only news because it's 'arab princesses'. Well go get your own private gulfstream V where you can sit whereever you want, "Princess ".

I know... I do not want to sit next to someone. So I will delay an Airliner, costing the company thousands of dollars, and upto 440 people from getting to there destination, all because I do not want to sit next to a male passenger. TALK ABOUT SELFISH, WORTHLESS PEOPLE.



[edit on 30-7-2007 by C0bzz]

Originally posted by djohnsto77
These stories are notable because they are not random occurrences, but rather take place in context of emerging global patterns of Islamic peoples trying to impose their religion, customs and societal beliefs on others.

[edit on 7/29/2007 by djohnsto77]

Oooh the evil Muslims are at it again eh?
Next thing you know they will demand an alternative to pork chops for their in-flight meal.

It is pretty ridiculous that a flight is held up for three hours over seating arrangements. If they have customs that prohibits them from sitting next to strange men they should have made prior arrangements. If late arrangements can't be made too bad for them.
What is even more ridiculous is using this news story to show how Muslims are trying to take over the world.

Drop the hate.

Originally posted by Umbrax
It is pretty ridiculous that a flight is held up for three hours over seating arrangements. If they have customs that prohibits them from sitting next to strange men they should have made prior arrangements.

If late arrangements can't be made too bad for them.

Yes, didn't I say that?

What is even more ridiculous is using this news story to show how Muslims are trying to take over the world.

Who said that?

Drop the hate.

Since when is criticizing bad behavior hate?