Mexican activist attempts to burn American Flag-key word "attempts"

Originally posted by kleverone

Originally posted by newyorkee
they are the most hardworking people we have in this country. they are always working. always. They like to drink but so do the irish, yet we can respect them. oh, ok i see

Way to sterotype an entire race!

Pretty smart

Ah, the 2 edged sword:

You get a fake ID and SS# and get a job mowing lawns , work and come home , get drunk all night throwing your trash everywhere and pass out and do it all over again the next day.Periodically sending your cash back home to Mexico and burning our flag on weekends.

Believe which edge you choose.

i was being sarcastic about the irsh mex comment.

The fact stands that people have taken issue with race, not of legality, or morality of flag burning

In common usage, the phrase 'flag burning' refers only to burning a flag as an act of protest. However the United States Flag Code states that "the flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning". This was taken from a Wiki link on Flag Desecration.
iv
Would the act of burning a flag "unfit" to fly be offensive to any here? Because it seems fairly common practice to burn old flags. It doesn't seem like the intent behind the burning has gotten its fair share in court today. Since we cannot ask this guy why he was trying to burn the flag maybe some reasons it could be allowed could be mentioned.

Protest of government laws/policies.
Protest of war.
"Retire" old flag.

[edit on 30-7-2007 by ninthaxis]

Oh in the uk all races are entitled to their turn to burn the odd flag. Gets things out of the system. It can be difficult to break in as a new social and cultural grouping, and if they go a bit nuts occasionally, its not ideal, but it kinda takes the edge off it.

As much as I am against America's current foreign policies, I can not stomach burning the american flag, especially since my lifestyle is 95% American.

so dont burn a flag....leave it to those that want to do so, for what ever reason.

Originally posted by ninthaxis
In common usage, the phrase 'flag burning' refers only to burning a flag as an act of protest. However the United States Flag Code states that "the flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning". This was taken from a Wiki link on Flag Desecration.
iv
Would the act of burning a flag "unfit" to fly be offensive to any here? Because it seems fairly common practice to burn old flags. It doesn't seem like the intent behind the burning has gotten its fair share in court today. Since we cannot ask this guy why he was trying to burn the flag maybe some reasons it could be allowed could be mentioned.

Protest of government laws/policies.
Protest of war.
"Retire" old flag.

[edit on 30-7-2007 by ninthaxis]

Its not the actions of burning the flag. It is the meaning behind it which you use as motivation to burn the flag.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Its not the actions of burning the flag. It is the meaning behind it which you use as motivation to burn the flag.

That's my point. Looking at a video there is no way to tell motivation. We can speculate this/that but we cannot know. This guy could have gotten drunk and decided to make a seen or his family could have been killed by American soldiers. We don't/won't know. I wish the video evidence is all people would judge by instead of bringing up ridiculous things like illegal immigrants into the discussion.

I agree, what differance does it make if he was legal or not mexican or not. He was just doing what alot of people would call civil protest. That is not wrong, in my opinion.

Originally posted by newyorkee
so dont burn a flag....leave it to those that want to do so, for what ever reason.

short n sweet.

don't agree, then don't do it....

i guess it sounds better when you say things like 'do it in front of me' and 'inhale the smoke' or whatever......
instead of just letting people be.

wow, its all i can say, wow,

i'd like to know what exactly he was protesting. I think that burning a flag with the 'blah blah death to America' reasons would be bad. but on the other hand what if he had something important to say. Who knows, he might have lived here his whole life and was protesting changes that he seen. It's cool that the dude who took the flag wasn't one of morons here thats all like he should be hurt.

I think the only thing that would get me to burn a flag would be flag burning being made illegal.

thanks for calling all of us morons, your real helpful. Glad to see your mind is teeming with constructive critisim

Originally posted by ThaDewd


I think the only thing that would get me to burn a flag would be flag burning being made illegal.

I hope people take the time to think about that statement. Wow, just wow. So succinctly said.

Originally posted by newyorkee
thanks for calling all of us morons, your real helpful. Glad to see your mind is teeming with constructive critisim

he didn't. he called the people calling for the flag burner to be hurt morons.....thats how i took it and i agree.

quite a few 'better not do it in front of me types' in here and frankly, they bother me than the dude that wants to protest whatever and burn the flag....i don't like people walking around out there getting so bunged up over something that they want to get physical.....i thought all that crap stopped in high school.
i'm 30 years old. i can fight. used to train before i got hurt. i like to fight for sport but thats it....i have no intention of getting physical with anyone for anything unless i was trying to stop a rape or pederast or trying to protect my family or my person.

kinda bugs me that things like this bother people so bad they could hurt the person or want them hurt....course it could be and is very likely internet talk but who can know for sure?

oh ok sorry retarded and multi tasking

Some of you seem to be missing the whole point here. Whether if it's considered "legal" is really beside the point, in my estimation. There are many decisions that our government and "Supreme" court sends down that I wholeheartedly disagree with, and, the allowance of flag burning happens to be one of the bigs ones in my mind.

Let's talk about what is right here. You all parade the constitution around, yet, see nothing wrong with burning the symbol that represents that revered constitution and the freedoms you all so willingly take advantage of and then talk about the government that affords you those freedoms as if it were Satan's spawn. It's rather ironic to me.

Let me ask you all a question. How many of you are really willing to fight for your freedom? Or, as I suspect, do you think it is some airy mystical thing that you are somehow freely entitled to?

This one's easy

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Some of you seem to be missing the whole point here. Whether if it's considered "legal" is really beside the point, in my estimation. There are many decisions that our government and "Supreme" court sends down that I wholeheartedly disagree with, and, the allowance of flag burning happens to be one of the bigs ones in my mind.

Do you own firearms? Will you give them up to me? NOW!

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Let me ask you all a question. How many of you are really willing to fight for your freedom? Or, as I suspect, do you think it is some airy mystical thing that you are somehow freely entitled to?

No, those things are only in World of Warcraft, and only if you're a Night Elf, they're called wisps.

The constitution supercedes the flag, imo, because firstly, it was there first, secondly, it stands for a lot more just by it's message than stars and stripes.

[edit on 7/30/07 by niteboy82]

Originally posted by intrepid


Do you own firearms? Will you give them up to me? NOW!

I'm Texan, it'll never happen... Your chances of getting my gun is like a camel fitting through the head of a needle..

My point is intrepid is that you all are parading the constitution around, yet, condone the burning of the flag which is a representation of the constitution



[edit on 30-7-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]