WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN YOUR LAND IS INVADED

I would fight for my family of course. I wouldn't need a gun, since I am trained with a composite bow and Welsh longbow. I am also aware that no gun is as silent and deadly as a well designed bow firing an 'armour piercing' arrow. (Even kevlar is not strong enough to deflect that).

[Edited on 13-1-2004 by ThePook]

Soothsayer you say about ur dad and his friends and no doubt when they were in nam they saw a lot of # but how old are they now and do you honestly expect them to be able to put up a fight against some chinks who are fanatical about there country.Let me ask you all a question what country do you ythink would put up the most resistance if it were to be invaded ENGLAND AMERICA OR USA, thats man for man not aking into account the amount 0of guns or people just the amount of fanatism that each antionallity would show fro there mother land

It would just be plain insane to invade the US. Like was said before, we would see it. Not to mention our Euorpean Allies would throw their armies into the orgy of killing the invading force because we (US) are relied opon as the military, industrial and econmic backbone for the West. So give or take, the invaders would be fighting five million armed and pissed off Yanks and Europeans. Like I said, Its impossible to distroy a super power from without, its too damn strong. Also another note, we have thousands to millions of tons of weapons of mass distruction that is moth-balled alone, Small Pox, Bubonic Plague, Anthrax, White Plague, Nuclear and Thermonuclear just to name a few.

Reply to Thermitman. My grandfather served in WW 2 and before cancer got him 3 years ago he was still strong an ox. He could still shoot too. So I wouldn't be quick to discount Nam vets.

Im in no way discounting nam vets but ur grandad was still strong in his old age cos of his training and the wya of life the army make u live but somebody still in the army wikll be a lot more efficent than a vet

Im in no way discounting nam vets but ur grandad was still strong in his old age cos of his training and the wya of life the army make u live but somebody still in the army wikll be a lot more efficent than a vet

Originally posted by THENEO
If I have a gun (if the liberals don't strip freedom loving citizens of every gun that is), I plan to take down as many as possible.

Well we don't have guns over here in the UK, we seem to do just fine without them. We are men here, we settle things with fists (or whatever objects are hanging around)

i cant agree more us brits do well without the use of guns if we have a problem with each toher we get drunk and fight like primitive apes not like you americans using guns

Thermitman, thank you. I just also wanted to tell you that he went over before we (Canada) got involed. He had to transfer TO the Canadian army from the British. I have allways been proud of him.

I'm mostly just saddened by how all of you Europeans perceive us. You seem to picture us all running around with guns drawn like in the old John Wayne movies. Those of us who are law abiding may or may not be carrying a firearm. Last I knew 37 of the 50 states had concealed carry laws(mine included). I am currently in the process of getting my carry permit. It's NOT easy!!! Just to inform those of you who don't live in the "gun culture" I'll detail the steps involved in being able to legally carry a concealed handgun in Connecticut, U.S.A..

1. Don't have a criminal history! If you have ANY felony conviction you are OUT. If you have ANY drug addiction or conviction you are OUT. If you have ANY violent crime (even misdemeanor) conviction or arrest without conviction you are OUT.

2. You must take a class in the safe use and storage of handguns.
Note: The "class" I took was only four hours and impossible to fail if you have a brain and are breathing.

I, personally, think more training should be involved for those with NO experience with firearms.

The class will cost $50 to $150 depending on where you live. Mine was $100.

3. Get your application for a Temporary State permit from your local police station. Fill in everything on the form including FULL conviction AND arrest history.
Now you need to find a notary to "witness" you signing the application swearing all that the information is true yadda, yadda, yadda. Most places that teach the class have a notary on site, mine did.

4. Go to the police station and make an appointment to be fingerprinted. Depending on the town/city you live in they may do it on the spot or make you wait up to 2 weeks.

5. Get fingerprinted. This is a pain in the ass! You need to do 14 different impressions on TWO different cards. One card goes to the State Department of Public Safety and the other goes to the FBI in Washington (D.C.).

6. Give the application, fingerprints, $24 in a bank check (no personal checks allowed) to the Commissioner of Public Safety, different check for $35 to the police dept. or town in my case it was to the town issuing the temporary permit to the police dept. that you got the permit from.

7. Wait. It can take up to eight weeks for this part. This is where I am right now.

Theoretically

8. You get your temporary permit. You now have 60 days to make an appointment to go to State police Headquarters (or other approved location) to re-apply for everything you just did (mostly).

9. Apply for the State permit. Nearly identical paperwork but you have to do it. Oh, photograph at this point as well. One on the actual license and the other into the computer system. Of course an additional $35 is given to the Department of Public Safety by you for the privilege of being interrogated by the police for your "need" for a pistol permit at this point. They can�t legally ask you, but they also can�t help themselves.

10 a. You are granted the permit.
Congrats! You now can carry a concealed weapon on your person in some places.
I have been highlighting concealed for a reason.
People are pretty up-tight these days(especially in the Northeast U.S.). If you carry a gun and, god forbid, someone actually sees the outline of a gun through your clothing and decides to call a cop, you lose your permit, PERIOD. If you reach up to a shelf in the store and someone sees a handgun on you and calls the police�Goodbye permit�.FOREVER. The media here has nearly succeeded in completely demonizing guns altogether. That�s for another thread.

10 b. You are denied the permit.
This just sucks! I�ll fill this in if need be. See you in 8 weeks or less.

You have to think, About it all. Why do you need to carry a gun? The Army has guns, they protect your country.

Police don't have guns in the UK, but in the US they do. It just gets more violent and MORE people die.

You wouldn't have to borther with it all if you didn't have a gun in the first place, Do you plan to kill someone, place a hole through their brain - not the nicest thing in the world, and some of the Southern States (Guns and Bibles) It begs the question, "Do not Kill" Guns are the masters of death.

I simply don't understand. I'm sure it's very hard to get a permit but about the only people here that carry guns are farmers (obviously to use for farming purposes) but most of them don't even use real bullets - Air Rifles and also Secruity Authorities have weapons which they should be able to use. It just excels to pure violence it doesn't protect you it makes you a greater chance of being hit.

Explain.

Well I have a 4 inch pocket knife stored away..

I'd do my best to keep underground and alive.

Originally posted by THENEO
If I have a gun (if the liberals don't strip freedom loving citizens of every gun that is), I plan to take down as many as possible.

Here, here. I'm with you. That's what I'm gonna do with my gun.

Our land already has been invaded. Or at least taken from my family before I was born. Three hundred acres of prime mountain farm land. I know that is not a lot of land in the eyes of some but that land was cleared with mules. trees were cut down with a crosscut saw. Stumps were dug out by hand or burned out.

Dad said they loaded up everything in a wagon and pulled a milk cow along behind when they were forced to leave by the government in 1949. He was fourteen years old as he looked back at the place he first saw the light of day fade into the distance. 90,000 acres were taken from farmers just like our family. At least they did somthing nice with the land. It is part of a 90,000 acre game reserve today.

What will I do If my land is invaded? The same thing my Grandfather did. Go peacefully like a herd of sheep.

I would either kill all of those stupid enough to attack me or sleep through it, one system is as good as another, there are always loopholes, also living in a bog, no-one would bother with this place, the germans didn't notice us, the only bomb that landed was cause of a bad pilot, anyway, Goodnight....

Originally posted by thermitman
there is a lot more guns in the us then there is here in the uk but us english have bulldog spirit so I think we would be near impossible to invade, I am biased as I am english what do u americans think of my statement

Are you kidding? america is overrun with guns and thugs and sheer size alone would make an invasion near impossible.
You think the local street gangs would go easy on invaders? I think not... Hell even our police are afraid of the gangs in america.. I don't think anyone would have a snowballs chance in hell of invading this country.. quite honestly, they would have to be nutty to even consider it!

Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out.

3 month supply of food: Check
Medical supplies: Check
Survival gear: Check
Weapons up the ying yang: Check
Urge to kill everything that gets in my way: Check
Guilt: Naaa, I lost that years ago.

Europe is slowly be invaded ... Rotterdam building is being started on the biggest moslim building in Europe. And nobody says a word we got seperate schools for them and we got people walking across the street like those woman in the old afganistan. (THIS IS NOT DISCRIMINATING ITS JUST A COMPILATION OF FACTS)

Originally posted by Jonna
3 month supply of food: Check
Medical supplies: Check
Survival gear: Check
Weapons up the ying yang: Check
Urge to kill everything that gets in my way: Check
Guilt: Naaa, I lost that years ago.

Don't stop at a three month supply. You can't store up enough for a day like that. 3 month-supply will go faster than you think. Especially with regard to potable water.