Aliens are always depicted having two eyes,legs,hands,torso. Why?

I have been following a lot of threads on ATS related to Aliens and UFO's. What surprises me the most is that almost all of us here and in the internet depict aliens in some or the other human form. What I mean is - Aliens are almost always depicted as having two eyes,limbs and torso. What is the reason behind this. Even people with abduction experiences seem to have an unfailing consistency in their accounts about the 'form' in which they witnessed these aliens. Can anyone help explaining this pattern?Are their any other possible forms of the aliens which I might have missed? Possibly,the form of these aliens depends on the planets in which they thrive. Possible,there is no need for locomotion as we know it. Possible they don't need to 'see' as we do. Quite possible. hen this will mean that all alien sighting stories are just figment of our collective imagination and artistic conscience.


AryanWatch

most doctors and evolutionists will tell you that the notion of aliens having the human likeness you mention is absolutely rediculous.

ill ask my wife to explain and add her input

Thanks SF - I'am waiting for her inputs.

I'am looking at getting responses also from people who have had abduction experiences. It will be very exciting if we can figure out newer forms for our alien friends.

Originally posted by AryanWatch
Aliens are almost always depicted as having two eyes,limbs and torso. What is the reason behind this.

Two reasons:

1. An abundance of testimonial evidence from abductees all over the world. Most of the aliens reported are the Greys.

2. Government briefing documents (which people like retired US Army Sgt. Clifford Stone and Bob Lazar have mentioned) explain that the aliens stem from the Zeta 2 Reticuli System, that they are humanoid in appearance, and that they are the same Grey-aliens that abductees generally report seeing when kidnapped.

Originally posted by AryanWatch
Even people with abduction experiences seem to have an unfailing consistency in their accounts about the 'form' in which they witnessed these aliens.

Quite so.

Originally posted by AryanWatch
Can anyone help explaining this pattern?Are their any other possible forms of the aliens which I might have missed?

Non-humanoid forms of living aliens are rarely, if ever, reported. But there have been accounts of simulated humanoids that acted and looked more like robots than living beings. These appear to work in conjunction with the Grey aliens.

Extraterrestrials who are not reported as much as the Greys are the Reptilians, Preying Mantises, and Nordics. The first two appear to supervise the Greys and Nordics and are the elite in Zetan society. The Nordics have been known to serve as on-board security to protect the weaker Greys against their Homo sapien (Terran) prisoners.

This is not to imply that there aren't other aliens, only that the aliens that frequent this planet and harvest it are the ones described above. It stands to reason that there are many humanoid worlds who have not yet developed interstellar flight capability and who are not so far down the path of Intellect and Technology (and moral degradation from not having a spiritual foundation) so as to be Service-To-Self (STS) oriented and to value and believe that Science is God - just as the Zetans do.

If they didn't have that human/ish shape, would we call them aliens? Bob Taylor was attacked by two large balls with bits sticking out all over, (kind of like WW2 mines) in Scotland in November 1979. They were most definitely alien but would we say they were aliens?Bob died just a couple of months ago. Shortly before his death his UFO story was read to him and he said that was exactly how it happened. So he hadn't changed his story over the years. I've also read of sightings where folk have seen large plasma type objects that undulated and looked kind of like red blood cells. Alien maybe, but "aliens"? It is kind of confusing, I suppose. About the shape though. If you held up a galapagos lizard, I suppose you could call it human like, i.e. two arms, hands, fingers, two eyes, nose and mouth but really it's nothing like us.

Well I for one would be very surprised if aliens can build starships without hands, eyes or torsos containing organs.

[edit on 23-7-2007 by merka]

Originally posted by wigit
Bob Taylor was attacked by two large balls with bits sticking out all over, (kind of like WW2 mines) in Scotland in November 1979. They were most definitely alien but would we say they were aliens?Bob died just a couple of months ago. Shortly before his death his UFO story was read to him and he said that was exactly how it happened. So he hadn't changed his story over the years.

That sounds more like the robot types or probes reported.

Not the flesh and blood, humanoid aliens.

Originally posted by merka
Well I for one would be very surprised if aliens can build starships without hands, eyes or torsos containing organs.

Good point.

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Paul_Richard]

Sacred geometry. People behind the scenes say that everything is based on it. Nature works to rules. This is the reason.

Aliens are us!

We are aliens!

That is why we are the same!

It doesn't get any simpler than that!

Sacred geometry. People behind the scenes say that everything is based on it. Nature works to rules. This is the reason.

andy - Very interesting post. Need a little bit of clarification - Who are the 'people behind the scenes'in your post above?

If I'd be good enough of an artist I'd make aliens look like squid. But if you'd design an alien race wouldn't the human setup be one of the most effective ones in interacting with technology etc.?

But if you'd design an alien race wouldn't the human setup be one of the most effective ones in interacting with technology etc.?

PO - Not necessarily. In some cultures,people make imaginary pictures of their gods. It doesn't mean that they are superior. We can give a different logical form other than the regular humanoids to aliens is what I meant.

basically, it kinda depends on which course you think humans have taken. Evolution or creation by a God?

If you take evolution theres roughly a zero percent chance that 'aliens' look anything like humans. they would have had to evolve almost exactely like humans, which is nigh impossible and very improbable. Additionally, its highly unlikely that any life form not native to earth could deal with life on earth (oxygen mainly) due to the highly toxic nature of our surroundings. some reading on the subject can be found here

ive asked my wife to assemble her insights on the matter that hold some more steady ground as far as facts rather than opinions and 'sightings', ill post it on the weekend.

I mean best in practical sense. Like 4 or 5 digits in two hands for precision work and strenght in both arms for labour. More hands might take too much space from brain or alter the balance too much? Less or more fingers would make it difficult to handle precision jobs or make the individual digits too weak or bulky etc.
I really dont know anything about biology, but when I think about it I wouldn't change anything about my 'form'

Originally posted by IMAdamnALIEN
Aliens are us!

We are aliens!

That is why we are the same!

It doesn't get any simpler than that!

Actually it isnt that simple iada, even if we are the Aliens the universe is so large(for every human there are 2 trillion stars,wow!!)that there has to be many more ET's out there.

I mean that has got to be a no brainer for evryone who thinks about it. And they are probably all shapes and sizes based on all types of different chemical mixtures.

Im sure gravity, planet size, and chemical climates would change their looks. I bet some have four walking extremities,one arm with two fingers and 3 heads that stick out of their.......

Originally posted by AryanWatch

Sacred geometry. People behind the scenes say that everything is based on it. Nature works to rules. This is the reason.

andy - Very interesting post. Need a little bit of clarification - Who are the 'people behind the scenes'in your post above?

The groups behind the scenes and all that from the stuff i have read and seen. They say that a mans body is just a smaller version of the universe. Everything is supposed to be balanced. You have things like davinci, who saw the body of man as a blueprint to all things.

Without sacred geometry they could not make the pyramids, make the cathedrals etc.. or they would fall down. Nature is full of it, its how a tree grows in balance and does not fall down. Hidden numbers in proportion from one thing to another.

For any one creating a creture from scratch in our universe would have to use our mathimatical laws in this universe. Thats why people say that what ever form a alien creture would take(if it belongs in our universe), would have to be made to fit the sacred geometry, what ever shape they are. Even though there probably are an unimaginable amount of ways a life can be.

There does seem to a duality to our universe, like male and female, wrong and right, two sides to the brian etc... Whether that is in all our universe we do not know, but i assume, things that would want to exist in our universe needs it.

The fibernargy(wrong spelling i know) sequence.

[edit on 7/23/2007 by andy1033]

I read a theory, many years ago (forgot who by, but I believe it was a biologist) who was adamant that asymmetrical lifeforms were unlikely to exist, as it is not the most economic form for life to take - i.e. it would have been "weeded out" under darwinian theory.
I don't have the expertise to make a comment about this, but if it were true, it would make symmetrical lifeforms (with man as an economic form) the most common/likely lifeform.

Another idea that occurred to me was that of cosmic seeding.
If the universe or our galaxy had been seeded, then life in different parts of the galaxy would assume roughly the same shape.

Hope I've explained that properly.

In my opinion it is because the aliens which supposedly visit earth now, like many other myths and legends, are a figment of our imagination and a part of our culture (and apparently a way for liars and charlatans to make profits off our gulability by writing made-up stories about aliens in books, fake UFO pictures and so on, sigh) rather than real beings. Aliens as we know them today, are mans way with dealing with the monotomy of everyday life, the scary idea that we seem to be alone at least in this corner of the universe and so on. Thus, it is only natural for our mind to "humanize" aliens to a degree. Anyone whos studied psychology knows the bias of the human mind and that this "humanizing" effect applies to many things in our imagination.

For example, in my opinion, this is also applies to all religions. You see all these gods which are supposedly "perfect" beings, yet careful reading of the texts of the religion clearly show these "gods" and their religious laws have some very human characteristics which can't possibly be "perfect" and often result in death and destruction... either by the hand of said "god" or said "god's" worshipers. This is because religion and gods are manmade creations made to deal with the fear of death and other things.

Now I'm not saying, aliens don't exist in this universe, I'm saying I personally believe they have not visited earth, at least in our recorded history. Thus, since our depictions of aliens (such as "grays" or the blonde humans etc) are all based on direct sightings through alleged abductions and so forth, they are false "human-like" representations.

Anyways, I'm sure I'll get flamed for expressing my opinion that aliens and god are manmade creations here, so go ahead.

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Darkestroom4]

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Darkestroom4]

some options:
* figments of overworked imagination / fairytale syndrome
* coincidence
* covert psy-op to implant a cognitive image for whatever reason
* 'seeded' planet
* earth as experiment with aliens being the overseers
* genetically engineered for our sphere of existence
* time travellers ('us' from the future, etc)
* a few or all (or none) of the above (!)

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Shar_Chi]

interesting post, this is one of the foremost things nagging me too in the whole UFO debate. it is an extremely anthropocentric view of things imho ... we're important, so the sun must rotate around the earth! if we're talking about an (almost) infinite universe, with an (almost) infinite number of planets, there must be plenty and plenty with some form of "life", and for me chances that all those "lifeforms" would look humanoid is slightly silly. i'm more with lem's book solaris on this one. i wouldn't be surprised if we'd simply lack the necessary sensory organs to percept ET lifeforms at all.

edit: i just lol'ed about myself, even the thought that an ET lifeform would necessarily need a planet to exist is somewhat silly. i'm sure bacteria imagine their ET being of bacteria shape and form as well!

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Lamâshtu]

edit 2: another idea i had when discussing this on another forum was that IF there are earth visiting ET, they might be deliberately appear in humanoid form, to reduce stress/fear/animosity.

[edit on 23-7-2007 by Lamâshtu]