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WTC Roof Closure 9/10

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posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 09:03 PM
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Somebody (unknown to me) sent me this image



Its a ticket showing that the roof of the WTC was closed on 9/10

Does anybody have any more info or links on the ticket or why the roof was closed the day before 911 ?



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 09:11 PM
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You should check the source for this ticket.

I copied this image to my desktop, opened it as a text file, and found that it could have been manipulated by LEAD TECHNOLOGIES. I did a search on this company and found out this:


Welcome to the future of imaging with LEAD Technologies.
LEAD offers several free imaging utilities. By providing the information below, you will be directed to a download page that include the following free utilities:

TIFF Image Tag Viewer
Command Line Image File Converter
Command Line Image Quick View


www.leadtools.com...

There will have to be some more investigations done into this...but it smells like a fake to me. IMO



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 09:19 PM
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The roof was locked on the morning of 9/11, and there have been rumors for years that both the roof and elevators were having some issues just prior to. It wouldn't surprise me.


CaptainObvious, you may be skeptical, but none of the programs listed above have anything to do with image manipulation beyond converting the file or opening and re-saving it as far as I can tell. Unless I'm missing something, and maybe you can explain, you aren't onto squat.

[edit on 15-7-2007 by bsbray11]



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 09:57 PM
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After looking online for a while I have found another one dated 9/8

www.samsimpson.com...

It looks like there is a tear off portion for the ticket master to keep as you enter thats missing on the 8th but present on the 10th

Will keep searching................



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 10:03 PM
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Bsbray... try to be nice... I suggested that it looks like a fake. "you're not onto squat" .... kind of childish if you ask me.

In the year 2000 the bar code on the tickets were actually on the sides of the tickets. This may have changed in 2001.

Another question I have is... why is the ticket intact? The other stub I saw from 2000 was torn. Agian this procedure may have changed in 2001.

Lead Tools is an imaging company. I was suggesting that their software may have been used to doctor this ticket. Then again....their software may have been used to print the tickets for that year. All i suggested was that it is looked into.



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 10:09 PM
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Well KingLizard has a program that can read the bar code, why not ask him to decipher it?



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 10:12 PM
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I think the ticket is legit.... seeing that another one was posted... perhaps the ROOF CLOSED section was photoshopped? I was just speculating.



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious

Another question I have is... why is the ticket intact? The other stub I saw from 2000 was torn. Agian this procedure may have changed in 2001.



The ticket was intact because it wasn't used !!!

Also, all my pictures get saved to a JASC picture program, isn't that a Lead Technologies company? You maybe picking up what I have saved and not the original.



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 10:37 PM
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Sure! VERY possible. Look, even if its legit... (and it very well could be) what does that mean? I will have to look into the procedures of the roof desk observatory. Im sure that weather conditions and other things took into effect if the roof was open or closed.



posted on Jul, 15 2007 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
Sure! VERY possible. Look, even if its legit... (and it very well could be) what does that mean?


If it means nothing why do you even post? You are always derailing every single thread, for you nothing is of any interest. You already made up your mind so why in hell are you here?

I guess the incredible coincidences of that day means nothing to you. Great so do something else instead than replying with annoying messages.
I guess now we know who really cares about ATS points...Maybe for all of your nice Avatars or whatever else you need.



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 01:16 AM
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Can anyone explain what the relevance to the roof bieng closed would be?

Here is a picture that shows the doors to the roof.





I think that explains why they were locked.


[edit on 16-7-2007 by esdad71]



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 02:17 AM
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Sometimes an investigator will look at a lead no matter how trivial or unusual because it might be part of a bigger piece of evidence. I think the OP has the right to ask about this and open a discussion on it. We have heard about the power downs etc. This might be another thing we can add to the mix.

We could ask who had access on the 10th to the roof if it was closed? Who decided this?



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 08:33 AM
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The South Tower had the observation deck, the north tower had the radio equipment.



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 09:03 AM
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maybe because the first part of the building to give up was actually the rooftop?
There is a video That shows the antenna first collapsing if someone remembers it please post it.



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by CaptainObvious
Im sure that weather conditions and other things took into effect if the roof was open or closed.



This is what I could find as far as what the weather was like on September 10th.

data.nssl.noaa.gov...

Just hit "list data", then scroll down until you see NYC.

I may not be reading it right, but my take on it is that the weather was fine.



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by piacenza
If it means nothing why do you even post? You are always derailing every single thread, for you nothing is of any interest. You already made up your mind so why in hell are you here?

I guess the incredible coincidences of that day means nothing to you. Great so do something else instead than replying with annoying messages.
I guess now we know who really cares about ATS points...Maybe for all of your nice Avatars or whatever else you need.


funny how when one posts FACTS they are derailing... seems that term is getting overused in here a tad. Hmmm I wonder why? Maybe a MOD will pick up on it and ban that person??

Sorry...we are talking about the tickets in here and i continued the thread by asking questions.

Have I made up my mind? You certainly have. I am still gathering evidence and there is nothing that I can see so far that has changed my mind.

As far as ATS points... Um... does it LOOK like I am trying to get any??

You are offered FACTS and you go on a rant about derailing and avatars. Please offer some facts and I will be sure to look at them."incredible coincidences "are not facts by no means. Actually your coincidences can pretty much be all explained.

So please...lets now get back to the topic at hand. If you have a problem with me posting facts, derailing, or being rude, please either ignore me or report me to the mods.



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:19 AM
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Thanks... yeah I assumed the weather was fine. I'm not sure yet as to why (if) the roof was closed. I'm sure someone will dig it up soon.

Again, the roof could have been closed for a variety of reasons. I'm wondering if they kept a record of what days it was closed?? (and for what reasons)



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by piacenza
maybe because the first part of the building to give up was actually the rooftop?
There is a video That shows the antenna first collapsing if someone remembers it please post it.


I believe that this is what you are looking showing that the antennae section of the roof is the first to go

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:36 AM
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The roof wasn't the first to go, if you actually reviewed the videos from that day and not just a video the fits 'your agenda' you will see the the collaspe starts at the impact zone.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO FACTS ON THIS SITE?!?!?



posted on Jul, 16 2007 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by esdad71
Here is a picture that shows the doors to the roof.




That's only one door, and it doesn't look like something you'd sell tickets for, so I don't think it's relevant.

This shows where the "observatories" may have been near the top of a building:




But people also took photos from the roofs themselves:








Does anyone know explicitly what the policies were towards going onto the roofs of the buildings? WTC1's stationed the antenna and WTC2's had a helicopter pad.



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