Searl Effect Generator

Why does he call himself professor? Where and what does he teach?

Originally posted by 1234567
Its a shame you devote your time to debunking things you know nothing about. So you have read all about John Searl, so tell me, where did he live in the 1960's?, why was he arrested in the 1960's ? and did you know that professor Searl proved that magnets act in waves ? These are quite easy starter questions!

I do not know these answers by heart, So I would have to look em up online. But I will not do so, because it is pointless, since the data are available online.

Oh and just because i made a typo does not mean i didnt study Astrophysics and Physics. Im well informed when it comes to classical theories, quantum mechanics, dirac theory, fourier transform, keplers laws, schrödinger wave equation etc etc.....shall i continue or is this not covered in your physics 101 books ?

If you are well informed, how come you mix gravity and magnetism together?

Magnetism and Gravity - nothing in common.....have you ever heard about superconductors ? If im not mistaken, they have magnetic properties, and also, if im not mistaken, they can counter the effects of gravity too.....blimey....what might that mean ! Jeez. Get a grip man!

No, superconductors do not have antigravitic properties. There is not a single scientific piece of paper backed up by an experiment which proves that.

Anyway keep up your debunking, im not here to convert you, its not a religion as has been stated before. Believe or not, people like you just give us more determination to complete our goals.

you will believe in the end, i promise.

I am not here to debunk anything. I just don't like people spreading lies in so important topics.

well Masterp, i disagree with you. I am not lying, and i believe what i say is fact. Period!

So, to people with constructive comments, i hope this is informative, and i hope others will take a look at the technology, as it is for the benefit of others if this works as John Searl states, which i fully believe will do as he has stated.

Anyway, i think this forum can be great, and at the same time can be a menace for people trying very hard to bring new ideas out in the face of constant criticism by others who have no grounding to say otherwise.

Anyway, if nothing else i hope some have found the SEG at some part interesting. Thats all.

Peace.

P.S - I wonder, what if John Lear said the SEG was for real, you would ALL believe it them eh!! As usual, shoot the messenger!

Originally posted by 1234567
well Masterp, i disagree with you. I am not lying, and i believe what i say is fact. Period!

So, to people with constructive comments, i hope this is informative, and i hope others will take a look at the technology, as it is for the benefit of others if this works as John Searl states, which i fully believe will do as he has stated.

Anyway, i think this forum can be great, and at the same time can be a menace for people trying very hard to bring new ideas out in the face of constant criticism by others who have no grounding to say otherwise.

Anyway, if nothing else i hope some have found the SEG at some part interesting. Thats all.

Peace.

P.S - I wonder, what if John Lear said the SEG was for real, you would ALL believe it them eh!! As usual, shoot the messenger!

Constructive comments are not comments which praise snake oil science. The problem of energy is so serious that I can't let hoaxers run their business unaffected.

Originally posted by 1234567
well Masterp, i disagree with you. I am not lying, and i believe what i say is fact. Period!

Bolding mine.

Please check my signature. Thanks.

Based on what I have read here and considering all I know (far more than you masterp) about John Searl and his invention after 25 years of reviewing it, it is clear that John's only fault lays in his invention that is still even today, too far advanced for those that cant understand (for lack of experience or rigid) or wont understand (because it easier with the lack of thought and feels better on the ego to assume you know better, that’s pitiful). You are (masterp) simply just another example of what wrong within our society, it like the priesthood that just want to burns at the stake anyone that tries to further our understanding of science and technology beyond the present orthodoxies. We should be grateful for the few great pioneers like John Searl; instead he is made to suffer and struggle to better the future for everyone.
You (masterp) are not well informed, nor have you read everything about the subject, this is plainly clear based on your responses, you really should be ashamed of yourself and you will be… Go ahead, take your cheap shots while you still can, those days are indeed numbered.

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nevermind.

[edit on 7-17-2007 by forsakenwayfarer]

Hi forsakenwayfarer

Thankyou for your post. Yes i totally agree, the technology behind the SEG is way before our time, at least when concerned with the magnetic imprinting on the various rollers and plates. This is the key that most people dont understand. These specific magnetic prints are what make the SEG almost impossible for the average engineer to recreate.

However, im very optimistic of the new prototype that is being constructed at this time, and hopefully will be finished by Christmas, or early next year. We can only wait for the results.

The point is, that John Searl is not the first to use Magnets to create energy. Also, have you checked out the experiments by:

V. V. Roschin
S. M. Godin

Two Russian scientists that verified part of the SEG. The results are quite astonishing.

Very Interesting Technology, and when you look there is a few people who have recreated part of the functionality of the SEG with again astonishing results. I for one am very excited about this new technology, and hope it lives up to expectations, and if it does, i forsee a battle between BIG OIL and John Searl.

Imagine, that the SEG is proved to work, and others verify that the device is showing electrical output, antigravitational effects and a local ionization of the surrounding air ! ! ! This would create a storm in the Media and Industry.

Peace.


P.S - sorry for long post! :-)


[edit on 17-7-2007 by 1234567]

Originally posted by PlatinumEgg
Based on what I have read here and considering all I know (far more than you masterp) about John Searl and his invention after 25 years of reviewing it, it is clear that John's only fault lays in his invention that is still even today, too far advanced for those that cant understand (for lack of experience or rigid) or wont understand (because it easier with the lack of thought and feels better on the ego to assume you know better, that’s pitiful). You are (masterp) simply just another example of what wrong within our society, it like the priesthood that just want to burns at the stake anyone that tries to further our understanding of science and technology beyond the present orthodoxies. We should be grateful for the few great pioneers like John Searl; instead he is made to suffer and struggle to better the future for everyone.
You (masterp) are not well informed, nor have you read everything about the subject, this is plainly clear based on your responses, you really should be ashamed of yourself and you will be… Go ahead, take your cheap shots while you still can, those days are indeed numbered.

Ok, prove it that the Searl generator exists and works: stop your contract with your electric company and run your house and business with a Searl generator.

I give you 1 year. Hell, I give you 10 years. If you don't do the above in 10 years, what else do we need to know to be certain that the Searl generator is a fraud?

Hi

Masterp, i totally agree with your point. The facts explained by John Searl are difficuly for the majority of people to agree with, especially with current Physics theory on Gravity and Magnetism.

Regarding your task to prove the SEG works, this is underway and a progtotype is under construction as we speek. The team said, and i quote from the youtube mockup video responses : "the SEG should be finished by sometime early 2008". So we dont have to wait long to see if it does what he has been saying all these years.

Oh and i have an interesting video for you to watch......explaining an experiment you can do to provoke the argument that magnets and gravity have a lot more in common than we currently know!




All we can do now is to wait and also, we can sensibly discuss the proposed new physics around this device, and how it can work.

Peace.

Sorry my post was sort of ontopic but when i posted it up it sort of came across as a little off topic so perhaps I will save it for another thread.

[edit on 19-7-2007 by AnOldFriend]

Originally posted by 1234567
Hi

Masterp, i totally agree with your point. The facts explained by John Searl are difficuly for the majority of people to agree with, especially with current Physics theory on Gravity and Magnetism.

Regarding your task to prove the SEG works, this is underway and a progtotype is under construction as we speek. The team said, and i quote from the youtube mockup video responses : "the SEG should be finished by sometime early 2008". So we dont have to wait long to see if it does what he has been saying all these years.

Oh and i have an interesting video for you to watch......explaining an experiment you can do to provoke the argument that magnets and gravity have a lot more in common than we currently know!

All we can do now is to wait and also, we can sensibly discuss the proposed new physics around this device, and how it can work.

Peace.

I've seen those two videos. See this thread for my opinion:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Magician tricks don't count for free energy.

People who believe that there is ways to harness free energy, just keep an eye out cause its comming soon enough. People who have doubts, please keep doubting and thinking negatively, which will free up more inventions for us people thinking outside the text book. The magnet falling through a copper tube is not a magic trick, its called the lens law. Yes the magnet can interact and cause or induce activity with a piece of copper or aluminum. No one has disproven Boyd's theory and experiment with $5k neodyniums in repulsion...Have they? Though not.

So Masterp, you have proved that 2 Neo magnets don't change the gravity field around them ? I doubt you have tried to reproduce this experiment with falling Neo magnets against non magnetic objects. I have not, but know others who have proved this to be accurate.

The SEG is using Neo magnets at its core.

Peace.

Originally posted by 1234567
So Masterp, you have proved that 2 Neo magnets don't change the gravity field around them ? I doubt you have tried to reproduce this experiment with falling Neo magnets against non magnetic objects. I have not, but know others who have proved this to be accurate.

The SEG is using Neo magnets at its core.

Peace.

I don't need to do an experiment, because I know the theory, and the thousands of experiments done on this subject, and they all prove one thing: magnetism has nothing to do with gravity.

Gravity is an alteration of the space-time continuum, it has nothing to do with magnetism.

As for the effect of neo magnets in copper tubes, see this:

en.wikipedia.org...

They even sell them as toys! :-)


[edit on 22-7-2007 by masterp]

You are right that current accepted theory states that magnetism has nothing to do with Gravity, but this technology is turning the page, open your mind to new ideas and Physics, escape the brainwashing.

Magnetism and Gravity have a lot more in common than mainstream Physics will admit.

IMO

But you brainwashed people can believe what you will, it is not your fault, you are just not as aware as others who already sit outside the box.

Peace.

At one point there was a climate in academia conducive to advancing our understanding of the world around us, and if needed rewriting from scratch anything that is proven to be flawed.

As you all can see mainstream academia got past that worrisomelly avant garde practice and has adopted the more traditional dogmatic approach. Instead of attempting to further our understandings many so called scientists instead spend their careers viciously attacking anything that looks like it challenges what they learned in school.

Mainstream science has become a priesthood and any who refuse to adhere to the dogma are branded heretics or if they don't posess the all important PHD they are just minimalized and ignored.

as far as magnetism and electricity, which is inherently phenomena of magnetism in many ways, not having anything to do with gravity... Well this just proves how little you paid attention in class if you believe that. Especially seeing as all matter is made up of protons neutrons and electrons which are by their very definition charged particles. And what textbook exactly says gravity has nothing to do with electricity and magnetism by the way?

I would really like an answer to that last question considering last time I checked No One has been able to adequatelly explain how gravity works and prove it out with a 100% reliable set of formulae that work in even the most broadly generallized or utterly gnats hair specific way in relation to gravity. Last I checked until you have a working formula you've got theories and weak ones at that.

But years after an overunity motor a searl generator a tesla system a steorn generator a newman machine or maybe some combination of all of them is successfully powering large portions of other parts of the world the american and european academic community in conjunction with the energy barons that fund their ivory tower haughtiness will still be claiming that there is no such thing as free energy.

Bottom line and I am writing this for the average person AND the energy innovator.... Move to a country that has more to gain by throwing off the shackles of the energy cartels than they stand to lose by the embargoes they would face... This is where the first non cartel energy systems will begin to propagate.

As an example I give you India... Now do you all remember how compressed air powerred vehicles are impossible, or at least that is what american engineers and auto makers insist? indias impossible air car Apparently the laws of physics are different in India because air cars work fine there... and btw this is India's Largest auto maker I don't think they are mistaken on their math.

Countries like this who have been consistently raped by the powers that be are finally starting to break away from the asinine dogmatic and scarcity paradigm based thinking that has choked any REAL innovation for the last 50 years. I know some will dispute my statement about real innovation, but answer this...

Is there an accepted or even non ridiculed field of technology that has emerged in the last 50 years that is not just an extrapolation and or improvement on technology that existed at that time?

Now I have another real hard question for you... When everyone but the western world and traditional bastions of the powers that be have a 30 year lead in these new technologies where is the new 3rd world going to be?

For those of you that still choose to ridicule rather than research go ahead but remember how well we treat the people that are currently on the bottom.

Originally posted by 1234567
You are right that current accepted theory states that magnetism has nothing to do with Gravity, but this technology is turning the page, open your mind to new ideas and Physics, escape the brainwashing.

Magnetism and Gravity have a lot more in common than mainstream Physics will admit.

IMO

But you brainwashed people can believe what you will, it is not your fault, you are just not as aware as others who already sit outside the box.

Peace.

You keep saying that gravity has to do something with magnetism, but you don't give any proof.

Originally posted by roguetechie
as far as magnetism and electricity, which is inherently phenomena of magnetism in many ways, not having anything to do with gravity... Well this just proves how little you paid attention in class if you believe that. Especially seeing as all matter is made up of protons neutrons and electrons which are by their very definition charged particles.

Em...wrong. Neutrons have no charge: www.selfhelpandmore.com...

And what textbook exactly says gravity has nothing to do with electricity and magnetism by the way?

All textbooks.

I would really like an answer to that last question considering last time I checked No One has been able to adequatelly explain how gravity works and prove it out with a 100% reliable set of formulae that work in even the most broadly generallized or utterly gnats hair specific way in relation to gravity. Last I checked until you have a working formula you've got theories and weak ones at that.

We may not know how gravity bends spacetime, but we know it bends it, and we also know that the effect is a bending and not an attraction because the pull is independent of mass.

But years after an overunity motor a searl generator a tesla system a steorn generator a newman machine or maybe some combination of all of them is successfully powering large portions of other parts of the world the american and european academic community in conjunction with the energy barons that fund their ivory tower haughtiness will still be claiming that there is no such thing as free energy.

Well, where is it? where are they?

Bottom line and I am writing this for the average person AND the energy innovator.... Move to a country that has more to gain by throwing off the shackles of the energy cartels than they stand to lose by the embargoes they would face... This is where the first non cartel energy systems will begin to propagate.

You are not to give advice. How do we know you are not some snot-nosed pimpled kid that has fun spewing one crazy theory after the other?

As an example I give you India... Now do you all remember how compressed air powerred vehicles are impossible, or at least that is what american engineers and auto makers insist? indias impossible air car Apparently the laws of physics are different in India because air cars work fine there... and btw this is India's Largest auto maker I don't think they are mistaken on their math.

Compressed air can move a piston when uncompressed, that's true. Everyone with a basic knowledge of physics knows that.

But claiming overunity and free energy machines, sir, that's an entirely different trick.

For those of you that still choose to ridicule rather than research go ahead but remember how well we treat the people that are currently on the bottom.

We are all "researchers" from our confy chairs in our bedrooms.

Well this is my first post, and let me start off with a simple this is not my field. I have a Doctorate in the Science of Religion and Mythology, a Master of Science in Archaeology with a Minor in Anthropology. I know nothing advance Astrophysics or Physics in general, though I would like to eventually learn. There are a few things I was wondering though.

Regarding free energy, I have yet to see a qualified test in a "sterile" enviroment run to validate the claims of most scientists, though I am not a scientist in this field. I was wondering if any cites to Journals or publications could be made that would vindicate the claims of Free Energy and Over Unity devices.

Secondly, I was wondering about the magnetism and gravity connection. I have heard that it is possible for Gravity to be a result of matter interacting with Space-Time, or something along those lines. I have also heard of Gravity being a push function and not a pull function. I've yet to see that explanation. Though, I was more interested in the superconducter field. Now I have a friend who is a physicist that said that a superconducter emmits a Meisnner Field (I appologize if my spelling is abhorred, not really necessary when in a hole). Didn't a Meisnner Field block all electromagnetic waves, and exhibit gravity repellent properties? I'm leary to say antigravity as this suggest a sort of function that negates gravity, but more gravity repellant similar to a rocket engine?

I thank you all in advance for reading this reply, and look forward to any responses.

Sincerely,
Dr. Johnson