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Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
Sidd, you are going to screw around and make me spray coffee all over my new monitor! It's just a matter of timing...
I do recall the Memphis episode, just was not aware of any pictures associated with it. I think you are on to something with your theory about quantity. To paraphrase my late great grandfather, "Throw enough [doo doo] on the ceiling, and some of it is bound to stick."
Originally posted by PhrozenKrew
if it FLIES and you cant HEAR it , you LOOK and it aint THERE, it MUST be Drone!
Originally posted by Siddharta
Originally posted by PhrozenKrew
if it FLIES and you cant HEAR it , you LOOK and it aint THERE, it MUST be Drone!
Now, we are one step further. If it flies and you can't see it, it is allso a drone.
The only possibility to realize that you are followed by a drone is that chicken skin you get...
Edit: Oops! Possibility without O sounds naughty somehow...
[edit on 4-4-2008 by Siddharta]
The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently. Humans like written language because each element of the language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another.
Imagine I ask you to incrementally add random words to a list such that no two words use any of the same letters, and you must perform this exercise entirely in your head, so you can't rely on a computer or even a pen and paper. If the first in the list was, say, "fox", the second item excludes all words with the letters F, O and X. If the next word you choose is "tree", then the third word in the list can't have the letters F, O, X, T, R, or E in it.
Originally posted by VirgilsQuest
Well, I don't know what is going on in the last 50 pages but I just had some information to put forward.
First, look at what "Isaac" writes about the "language."
The language is actually a "functional blueprint". The forms of the shapes, symbols and arrangements thereof is itself functional. What makes it all especially difficult to grasp is that every element of each "diagram" is dependant on and related to every other element, which means no single detail can be created, removed or modified independently. Humans like written language because each element of the language can be understood on its own, and from this, complex expressions can be built. However, their "language" is entirely context-sensitive, which means that a given symbol could mean as little as a 1-bit flag in one context, or, quite literally, contain the entire human genome or a galaxy star map in another.
Imagine I ask you to incrementally add random words to a list such that no two words use any of the same letters, and you must perform this exercise entirely in your head, so you can't rely on a computer or even a pen and paper. If the first in the list was, say, "fox", the second item excludes all words with the letters F, O and X. If the next word you choose is "tree", then the third word in the list can't have the letters F, O, X, T, R, or E in it.
Now I'd like you to look up something called Sigils.
en.wikipedia.org...
There are a lot more sources on Sigils on the net. More that go in depth with how to create and use Sigils. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not a firm believer in magic being a mystical force from Heaven or Hell. I am footed in the fact that what is known to us as "magic" was passed to us to advance the human race. In the drone context, it is used in conjunction with technology. Plain and simple. Sigils are the same thing that Isaac writes of. A symbol has a full meaning or function. It is thought of or put in a specific environment to perform the function. Think on it.
Secondly, I want you to look at the inventory photo. Memorize what the top three rings look like.
isaaccaret.fortunecity.com...
Now, the anti-gravity technology currently being utitilized by Lockheed Martin and other private government contractors, uses the Lorentz O for propulsion. Take a look at the second video thumbnail down. Notice any similarities between the inventory objects and the object being shown in the thumbnail?
video.google.com...
The inventory objects look very similar to the object in the thumbnail on the Tesla video. Tesla came up with an invention that mimiced the pulsating energy of the sun. It was a ring. At each of the four corners were plates that would pulse with electricity and if one wanted to, an object could be placed in the center, such as a fan blade, and it would spin as the pulse went in a circular motion around the four outside electrical plates. Now, if you know about ion wind or lifters, this should interest you about the creation of plasma and anti-gravity. The rings can work off of one another generating plasma. If you don't know about plasma, lifters, or ion wind for anti-gravity, please look it up.
I won't say what I know or do not know for sure but I will tell you that the photos of the inventory can very much be functional in the right context.
Virgil
Originally posted by chunder
reply to post by tomiuk
I, for one, appreciate your comments.
Either way, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
Originally posted by Sys_Config
Originally posted by Siddharta
Originally posted by PhrozenKrew
if it FLIES and you cant HEAR it , you LOOK and it aint THERE, it MUST be Drone!
Now, we are one step further. If it flies and you can't see it, it is allso a drone.
The only possibility to realize that you are followed by a drone is that chicken skin you get...
Edit: Oops! Possibility without O sounds naughty somehow...
[edit on 4-4-2008 by Siddharta]
no no no..its not in fact the pussywillow is one of the lovliest branches in our culture. Its all in the mind. we have spoken of fish and chicken, nature so eager to please us have given us iguana and fish that taste like chicken too. its quite all right.
like artifacts in pictures and dcuments, is it in the pic or is it because of scanner. I have not a clue.
Nola was intrigued by that little artifact, and so was I as it behaved beculiar in my photoshop as if waving.
I believe I mentioned that too.
As you know I have also wished Woy was here. He did stunning work, he seemed to grasp the whole picture as opposed to a few pixels like nemo the HI res expert. In fact when Woy presented the following pix at OM , Nemo was furious about the size, and just downright hornery. Mur was present too. I hope he can shed light on these as the conversations stopped after feb 2008.
I was told these appear on all the pages, I would like to know which or what, so I can look at them too.
woy display Thank you woy..I really do wish you were here.
lucianarchy.proboards21.com...
woy full view more interesting showing a kings staff
i215.photobucket.com...
lucianarchy.proboards21.com...
i215.photobucket.com...
Unusual scanner stain I think. This reminds me more of the days when I was a child, and I made little stick figures on sheets of paper. then ran thru the corner of pages with my thumb and the little stick figures moved.
I wonder. when Isaac said keep the papers together AND in order..was it for something like this.
Just a thought, a baton for someone to run with.
Another puzzle perhaps I see, but I am the only one who sees that I see. Sigh..everyone else sees a smudge..another loose connection.
Still Isaac, why does Linda want to keep you from us.
You have a much better sense of humor, and we can laugh together.
You will be treated well here.
[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sys_Config]
[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sys_Config]
[edit on 4-4-2008 by Sys_Config]
Originally posted by VirgilsQuest
Well if you could not view the thumbnail. Here it is:
Notice the similarities. Can anyone update me on what happened regarding this topic? I started looking back some pages but am just lost. Was this proven to be a hoax by someone? Like I said, the technology is there and can very much be functional. I'm not saying so much the Sigils but they are the same concept. I am talking more about the anti-gravity system.
Virgil
[edit on 5-4-2008 by VirgilsQuest]
I then imported the photo into ACAD products and proceeded to do engineering analysis on the design criteria for the object. It becomes immediately clear that the object has a very precise design and the design construction was executed with extreme precision. This nearly rules out a hoax scenario because a model like “Star Trek Enterprise” would not be precise enough and Photoshop does not let you “create precise drawings” in their software. One would have to create the design in a CAD system and then try to import pieces of photos of airplane wings and anything else one could find to try and create the realistic appearance. One needs to keep in mind that movie companies go to extremes to create computer generated movies of known air ships such as the P-51 and Air Force One 747. Generally a 9 year kid can tell the difference between true video and the best of computer animation.
I proceeded as if the object was a real materialistic event and must have been designed by some type of intelligence. I am certain that if the US military or any other military had such technology, the last place they would operate it would be at a low elevation where it could be photographed and analyzed in the manner I am representing. It is obvious that the object is not studying the sun or stars or else it would be at a high altitude. It is not studying people or human construction or else it also would be higher. It seems it most likely is studying something underground such as earthquake fault zones.
There are 9 protruding “electrodes” extending down near the center of the object. I carefully plotted an ellipse around these ends to establish the camera angle and the distortion resulting from that angle. From the center of that ellipse I drew precise lines to the corners of these electrodes. The difference in the azimuth of each line defines the angles that the electrodes and gaps make with each other. The typical person who might try to create a hoax would likely make these angles all equal or of some specific typical arrangement of angles. It is not likely that one would understand the technology required to make these angles fit into a high level mathematical design criteria. And if one did, it seems quite unlikely that sufficient precision could be followed thru on multiple photos.
The 18 angles define a very definite trigonometric equation while still using very precise summations for certain groups of the angles. This strikes me as indicating that the object is likely using something like ground penetrating radar to examine geographical structure deep under the surface. The booms can move in a slight rotation mode and the one boom can extend and retract in a radial direction. The dimensionless ratios of these boom elements seem to indicate they might be antennae retrieving the signals sent from the electrodes. Angular and radial adjustments are likely needed to improve signal quality.
The angles prior to optical smoothing are shown in the table below. One can see in the second graph that the camera angle correction is a trig function as it should be. The third graph shows that while individual angles are all different, they occasionally sum to a precise round number like 140 degrees. I hope you find it interesting and that more technical people will take interest in this type of analysis. This is a very rare close range photo almost directly under the object.
Originally posted by Double_Nought_Spy
reply to nutcases. "Forbidden Science" is in fact the title of another most excellent work of literature, a book by Jacques Vallee. I highly recommend both books to anyone reading this, though of course I do not agree with every conclusion reached by either author.
Now, the way I read this discussion, most of the debate centers on an attempt to determine whether this is a hoax by first linking together all the various elements. I’m pretty convinced of the link between the drone sightings and Isaac’s “disclosure”, but I don’t know that proving the drones are a hoax necessarily means Isaac is a fraud. Most of the discussion has focused on the sighting photographs and whether or not they are authentic. That discussion is way outside my lane, as it involves CGI and rendering and photography and things I know nothing about.
What I do know about, however, is engineering, military projects and procurement, and reports. I’d like to specifically focus on Isaac and his alleged disclosure, which I feel okay talking about because there are no classification markings on them, thank goodness. Here is my bottom line up front: If Isaac fabricated the documentation on the CARET program, then he spent years making it. It is absolutely flawless in its presentation of an engineering study. I have seen one or two contributors refer to the language in this report as ridiculous babble (or words to that effect). I would argue the exact opposite. Every word, every diagram title, every paragraph number, every drawing, every THING in this report is perfect. One contributor somewhere stated that it had a high degree of verisimilitude - I would say that is a good word to describe it. I have read many aircraft and military system manuals in my career, and this thing reads exactly like them. But beyond that, way beyond that in fact, is my belief that the science and the technical explanations within the report are rock solid.