[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

Hello 9,

nice to see you back!

Now, if we say Isaac's story is rather uncredential, than we come to the point, that Bif Basin is, too, since the drone shows the same "signs" as we see in the primer. From there we come to Raj and Chad and finally there is nothing left at all.

Now something totally different:

@tomi: I heard you and your wish was my order.
Where are the drones?

@sys: As you see, tomi made me sing again!


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OH ! Reader that was soo cool... Thanks so much!!
I am so thrilled to hear it in music... To the tune of Send in the Clowns..


This link played slow until it finally downloaded. I want to post this on OM.. pls.......

Post it wherever you want. But I am irritated, that there is a song "Send in the Clown", that sounds similar to this.

Thank you 9 for returning and I am glad you are well to rengage in discussion.
Sid I could not download that song for some reason just email it to me.
Someone mentioned James Carrion and That I should look into his background before I make a commentary..I have ..and based on my research I can announce conclusively that Yes, He is not Isaac!!
The focus of this thread. case closed on James!
James worries some people, because of the wheeling and dealing on subject matter relevant to his work, ..the same way kris with his video , drone with his music , and even OMF did when they started selling T Shirts and or paraphernalia related to him (assuming you know it is a him). Yet for LMH and others who parlay profit over truth, believers literally "fawn" over them. Strange.

AS for waiting on whether a trademark exists for ufo Hunters exists..I did that already no..just an application for same of TM ..under a 1B filing by James (allowing him to use TM immediately)..Even AE or sci fi channel has an IA application filed after James, based on on initial use of the term in 2005. It is an extremely lengthy process before it can be turned into a R..the real deal. But can under IB use TM unless challenged or app rejected. There are about 5 apps pending.
As Dr Dil was interested I was curious too where it would take lead.
I posted my TM findings there if you have not gotten to that point..yet in your research. At some point some will come to the inevitable conclusion also..that Ufology is profitable. And any who has seen a decomposing body of any sort..see all types of bizarre flora thriving even on that.
www.ufo-blog.com...
under the post Manuel ,But that does not help us in solving Isaac, just that you have popcorn, flag and balloon sellers for the parade.aptly described with "send in the clowns".


9 and sids discussion point out not merely flaws..but the limits..of the knowledgebase of the author. That is important..as where the statements are strongest, credible, are the areas of expertise, i dont think management was one of them as was pointed out with so many chiefs and so few indians.. So unless the numbers were put there for informational purposes to be used in another part, like a clue to a calculation or something, indicating measurements like 1/4 notes and octaves..or working out to that, as Isaac does deal with wave functions, ..then it remains a flaw.And iMO he has done that in other parts. Perhaps the numbers or ratios of them or other can tell us something..something like what 9 does with sound, and SiddHarta you do do with music..after all (musicians are actually leading the way in this field) if you rule that out..then we can say..it doesnt make sense and a clear flaw.

Now Tomi I would be reimiss not to ask again ..what additional info Shirley provided that would help the UFO community in its search. Just what is the reserach with American Shirley..if phone did you ask her the questions we gave you to ask and you and numbers said you would..and which do not seem to have been asked..What kind of reasearch is this ?if you dont ask questions that are important..like does she have the history of reporting..is it a chronic history..is she connected at all commercially with anyone....I mean this is the process you James Carrion over the coals in but not a UFO witness and from 2006 at that. My research is not an issue here..but I think the questions we asked over there stand,as a leading omrt member..something other than "stroking" and "cooing" fellow members here would be a bit more in order!






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One thing is for sure: We already coresponded with the hoaxers.

Originally posted by Sys_Config

The only thing that I cound find relevant to assist you in getting answers or information from from us to help bring back OMF out their current dilemma would be the following links.
For the time being we do not need them.

www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

Now, I hope we can continue foward
on the same page.

Hi Sys, while I’ve never been a Stones fan I know the song and the lyrics very well,
but I was into Jefferson Airplane in a big way!!

When logic and proportion, have fallen sloppy dead

………Feed your head,

FEED YOUR HEAD

(Although the extended version is better but doesn’t capture the, “Woodstock” spirit ).

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I checked the trademarks out back in the day when the story broke, I didn’t post the results, “CARET” was filed in 2005:

tess2.uspto.gov...

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Word Mark: CARET

Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: personal data assistants, network access servers and network access server operating software sold as a unit for verifying patient medication orders and for documenting patient administration.

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FIRST USE: 20050615.
FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20050615
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78719762

Filing Date September 23, 2005
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition December 5, 2006

Owner (APPLICANT) intelliDOT Corporation CORPORATION DELAWARE Suite 400 13520 Evening Creek Drive North San Diego CALIFORNIA 92128

Attorney of Record AnneMarie Kaiser
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

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I d this one more interesting at the time, the filing was for, “CARETS” and was filed in 1988 by, “PATTERN ANALYTICS” and from what I could gather specialised in OCR.

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Word Mark CARETS
Goods and Services (CANCELLED) IC 009. US 038. G & S: COMPUTER PROGRAMS, AND USERS MANUALS RELATED THERETO, FOR OPTICAL CHARACTER RECOGNITION USE WITH PC SCANNERS AND FACSIMILE COMMUNICATIONS BOARDS. FIRST USE: 19871111. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19871111

Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 73724945
Filing Date April 27, 1988
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A

Published for Opposition September 6, 1988
Registration Number 1514465
Registration Date November 29, 1988

Owner (REGISTRANT) PATTERN ANALYTICS, INC. CORPORATION NORTH CAROLINA 2405 DIX STREET RALEIGH NORTH CAROLINA 27609

Attorney of Record KIP A. FREY
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL

Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Cancellation Date June 5, 1995
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As you can see it was cancelled in ’95 and my research quickly reached a dead end.

At least I found one hoaxer:

Tomi stole the text from a song, which already was sung by Barbara Streisand and Judy Collins. And I thought, she might have eaten some intelligence pills...

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Guess, I have to change the text soon, if I don't want to have trouble with Barbara and Judy...

Great search on the CARET-item, Dil, but you didn't really expect to find something, did you?

Hi Doc Hi Sid..
yes I Loved jefferson Airplane and some of the Stones stuff..White rabbit (I loved them) seems to play fine into the Alice and wonderland landscape whe seem to be in at the moment. Thanx for the data on caret as microsoft and cambridge both use the designation too that turned up when all the shrinks started popping up.like Van Essen Simanonoke, and others. Pattern analytics..interesting, Intelidot rings a bell..from somewhere..didnt Tod schwartz work for them somewhere..it was an an original search casebook did way back too..hec..it might have been you that posted it..I really have to check nowkind of what we are doing here. with the diagrams and narrative. I will gloss back over my notes... Doc. I will u2u something I u2u to Sid..


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Originally posted by Siddharta
Great search on the CARET-item, Dil, but you didn't really expect to find something, did you?

Of course not Sidd, but it was an avenue of research that I felt needed to be walked down at some point (and the earlier the better). Needless to say it was a very quiet neighbourhood with not a lot happening but I didn’t see anyone I knew so thought it warranted a mention…..

Originally posted by Sys_Config
Pattern analytics..interesting, Intelidot rings a bell..from somewhere..didnt Tod schwartz work for them somewhere..it was an an original search casebook did way back too..hec..it might have been you that posted it..I really have to check nowkind of what we are doing here.

with the diagrams and narrative. I will gloss back over my notes... Doc. I will u2u something I u2u to Sid..

I don’t think so Sys, I quickly had a look to see what I had on Todd E. Schwartz, and this was it…..

Post by ivo5000 on Jul 9, 2007, 5:45am

I received the following e-mail from Todd Schwartz this evening. I will let Todd's note speak for itself, but I do want to say I look forward to hearing more from him and "Isaac" in the days and weeks ahead!


Hello Chris-

Thank you for your kind invitation to the skype-caste.. I apologize for not making it but I am on a rare vacation with my family and…I was frantically packing our family rig trying to get out of Seattle and back to Oregon in time for a birthday party at time of the broadcasts.

I hope the skype-cast went well. I will be looking forward to reading about it.

With some limitations due to my “all in one” mobile phone, I have been attempting to keep up with the forums at OpenMindsForum.com. I have been blown away by the interest in the isaaccaret.com registration.

Let me clear a few things up: 1. I am not Isaac; 2. I am not affiliated legally or otherwise with Isaac (if he had retained me I’d be fired by now for not registering the domains privately); 3. I am not affiliated with CARET; 4. I intentionally registered isaaccarret.com publicly because I had hoped for some feedback on what the best use of it would be…when my Law Firm started getting calls I made the sites private) and finally, 5. I am hoping to use the opportunity I have (if any) as the owner of isaaccaret.com to assist groups (such as yours, Whitley’s and LMH’s) to the spread this news into the major media. Yes, I would like a “cut of the pie” for my efforts. So ultimately, you readers may consider me a cyber-squatter or opportunist. But I would suggest I have more than just making money in mind. I would like to give back to those on the frontline of this effort. I would like to think of my self in the Pantagonia class of capitalist/opportunists.

Professionally, I am and attorney practicing as described in on my website. I would, and my clients would probably, prefer I keep my personal interests separate from my professional pursuits. This I intend to do as much as possible. However, I am in no way am ashamed of my interests and would suggest there is more proof behind many of my beliefs than some more accepted “truths” in our society. If you will excuse the immodesty, it is this drive for the truth that makes me a good attorney.

Regarding all the discussion of my timing the registration: I truly was one of the hundreds (thousands?) waiting on faithful day when LMH’s Earth Files site to posted her update on the alien drones story. I must have been lucky enough to be one of the first to click on it. When I read Isaacs statements and examined the photos I truly felt this could be some thing huge on the scale of Roswell (assuming it’s not already related to Roswell artifacts.). I was surprised Isaac was using a subdomain and tool the “opportunity” to register the true isaaccaret.com website as a potential investment in moving this story forward.

I will respond with more specific ideas on how to best use the site following our responses. You are welcome to post the above to your members.


Todd E. Schwartz

(And this)
Oregon Lawyer (Spring 2004)
(The magazine for University of Oregon School of Law alumni and friends)

PDF Page 6 middle, right hand side
www.law.uoregon.edu...

Todd E. Schwartz ’91 and partner John T. Carr have formed Carr & Schwartz. They specialize in regulatory and compliance matters facing SEC and state-based registered
investment advisory firms. Schwartz has served as corporate counsel for Inteliant Corp. and as an administrative law judge for the Oregon employment department.

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Phone(s): (503) 635-5244
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excellent Doc and boy you are fast....
And Todds Statement in one letter to IVO5k really moved me me..his search for the truth..of course he didnt mention the total silence on his website to questions posed by me and others over the last few months. It was left in total abandon..His actions speak louder than words..soo..keep an eye on him anyway..hehehe

I remembered inteliant then not intelidot..thanx too..thats a lot of homework you just saved me. I u2u that link I found and am still researching for your take on it. It is resonating with me for some reason because of the spirals physics plasma inferences , and there is a rf controller spiral antennae used in controlling plasma jets, but thats a tennuous speculation on my part what I am trying to convey is simply the creators love for the elemnts in her/his work as in this link which speaks about the cactus (one of the anagram works) yet read its application
www.pyracantha.com...
so you get an Idea of what I am talking ..to an agv person cactus..just prickly thing..for tao meditaion..for a mathematician ..the spiral..
Read the sheer beauty that link author speaks when he speaks of the cactus....thats why I I dont want to walk away from this..or us to miss any treasures in this labyrinth we call Isaac. The more specialties present here the more likely we are to get an answer(s)




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A lot of areas, he's in... Maybe he even would sing with me!

Suspicious enough, I guess, he is the source of some of those jokes about lawyers.

I believe cycling and windsurfing were also in his inventory..All our suspects love cycling. environment..and clean fusion power,.and singing .it must be Greenpeace..for Gods sake.I knew it>Didnt fool me for a second .who only could have thought of that but SyS Sid I sent u a u2u let me know what you think on that..by u2u..Folx we u2u some stuff to avoid mixing apples and oranges here. not that we have a super secret .



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Saladfinger's work?:

www.youtube.com...

Hi srb!

Maybe you should stop at this planet a little more often. This is, what it says: UFO Hunters... If Kris got a job there, than he must have worked worse, than he did, when he did it just for fun.

But thanks for that link. So this is UFO Hunters... It looked like an amateur video to me and sounded like one of these shopping channels...

No wonder, some preach, it is over with human mankind soon.

From the stuff I read regarding '___' and how you can literally move into a different dimension (alien world being one) people have conversations with aliens. They tend to get images telepathically and their language is very symbolic, which is why looking back to Egyptian / Aztec times. Symbols were the most multilingual way of communicating. In fact language limits our understanding/communicating our world. Most people that have had the '___' experiences with aliens they claim that their language is very simple lines yet if you understand has a lot of meaning. Very similar to these writings!

Originally posted by freighttrain
looking back to Egyptian / Aztec times.

Freighttrain, freighttrain, goin' so fast... Time traveler, I guess...

Originally posted by Siddharta
Hi srb!

Maybe you should stop at this planet a little more often. This is, what it says: UFO Hunters... If Kris got a job there, than he must have worked worse, than he did, when he did it just for fun.

But thanks for that link. So this is UFO Hunters... It looked like an amateur video to me and sounded like one of these shopping channels...

No wonder, some preach, it is over with human mankind soon.

yes they seem to be following the Taps format..sci fi style. with caps and all..but Taps ghost hunters was far more interesting..the deep deep voice like announces Fredie Kruger Nightmare on Elm Street, and even a Geico commercial do capture ones attention..but the sudden flashing lights, andbacksground heavy metal music..the dark lit rooms, then the dramatic "so thats not a star..right? no thats not a star!" leaves a lot to be desired..and sounds like it will give no answers at all about anything..

since long distance space travel seems a little distant and dangerous.. .perhaps thats why the interdimensional and psychic crossings thru time and and space appear so compelling to many. With Meditation and imagination inside our heads....I am sure many have gone where no quark has gone before..there is nothing wrong with that.. I will watch the program..but i wish they put a for entertainment purposes only label somewhere.