[HOAX] Isaac CARET - Drones [HOAX]

Originally posted by agent violet
So any guess what this small device is?

Sounds like a remote control that uses sound/IR/some other type of radiation/frequency to activate the drone. I wonder how they turned on the crashed drones before they got it so they could fiddle with them?

I dont think that they were able to turn the crashed drones on because Isaac states:"....(S1) is of particularly sensitive importance as it is the only known method of controlling A1"

That statement leads me to believe that they couldn't get the the drones too work, until that is, they had been mysteriously been "provided" with the small device (S1).

So my question now is, whoever gave the PACL team S1, must have known that something was missing from A1. Furthermore, how was the A1 being controlled at the time before its crash, if S1 hadn't been found near the crash site (I presume because apparently S1 came in after A1 had already been recovered) Therefore, perhaps something happened to the being holding/controlling S1(and pehaps in the midst of danger they 'de-activated'), leading A1 to crash.

[edit on 26-7-2007 by agent violet]

what the hell this report means, sorry I don't understand physic.
here is the website theory.stanford.edu...
I wonder if this is related to the underground work of the craft?

s1 and a1 and a2, a3 thats all the information we have, on page 8 and 9 they where going to explain how a2 and a3 works with a1 and s1. I don't know wich is s1, where is the picture of s1?

Just another stray thought.

I find the design of the drones to be rather clunky and odd. Over the years, as our own technology has advanced, we have tended to create designs that were increasingly smooth and efficient. Our bulky steam locomotives evolved into streamlined machines. Our telephones with cranks and dangling wires evolved into the iPhone, which is like a simple flat crystal. Over time, our world has slowly become cleaner and less ragged.

Assuming that design gets cleaner as technology advances, and that the same thing would happen in an "alien" culture, I would expect a highly advanced machine to have a very clean design, like a perfect sphere, or cube, with no odd parts sticking out of it. Many, many UFO sightings have described smooth shapes -- saucers, tubes, spheres -- with no obvious appendages.

As it is, the drones seem to be cobbled together and oddly junky in appearance. Now maybe these are machines that are meant to be housed inside larger, sleeker machines, like our complicated car engines under the hood of our cars. But the photos show them flying alone, and the Isaac description describes them as self-contained units. I'm not even quite sure how they might be used as an anti-gravity engine for another ship. Do they lift the ship up? Do they surround it with an anti-gravity field? And exactly how does one go about test flying and controlling a completely self-contained object? How do you insinuate a control mechanism into it without messing up the holographic function/form?

I know there are no answers to these questions unless they're provided by somebody else. I personally don't think it makes any internal logical sense, but none of us has the whole story, either.

Anyway, until we get additional information, or something -- anything -- that is corroborative in some way, it's all just an amusement. Something to wile away some time.

Originally posted by chunder
2. I also have proof that this whole thing is real but don't feel comfortable sharing.

It would be nice if there was some other documentation or proof available from other, less anonymous sources. I would still like to find even one FOIA document that even mentions the CARET project, even in passing. A lot of times classified projects are referred to by name without indicating specifically what these projects entail. One document. One other person involved. How many people were part of this over the years? Thousands? Imagine the mountain of paperwork.

One little thing would me nice.

[edit on 26-7-2007 by SuicideVirus]

S1 is discussed in section (4.2.2)

Isaac does not show a picture of it, and blackened out a large amount of the text, in regard to it.

I stated some of my view on this in my previous post.

Suicide Virus. Just because we, as humans, tend towards more "sleekness" as time passes, does not equate to that being the ideal of some other species.

Now I have said that I am far from convinced that this is anything more than an elaborate hoax/disinfo event. Yet, as someone who looks at things with a certain detachment, meaning that I don't make up my mind first and then fit the evidence to what I believe, I cannot accept this as a good rational for dismissing the drones.

But a nice try there SV. It just doesn't work to convince me.

I dont think that they were able to turn the crashed drones on because Isaac states:"....(S1) is of particularly sensitive importance as it is the only known method of controlling A1"

Could s1 be Linguistic Analysis Primer Picture they are not in any other picture including the drone picture.?

Hey pjslug,

Logic is like math. there are hard set rules. And just like math those rules are universal. didn't you take basic logic classes in collage? So alien logic will be no different from computer logic (not Logic the program) and no different than human logic or monkey or cetacian logic.

It's not arrogant to believe that an intelligent non terran species would have eliminated that form of "programming" after a few disappointing field R&D tests. But maybe there is a really small chance that these are human drones and we haven't gotten the tech or language right and we're field testing them in plain sight of civilians. um....sure.

So if it's real it's likely an extra terrestrial device and again using a very illogical and not very secure method of "programming"

As for me I'm sticking with cleaver, no life...or conversely paid a lot by a production firm, hoaxer.

Probably an insecure person looking for lots of attention, but too scared to actually come out and get the attention personally. So, he/she/they hide behind this false persona and get their kicks from this hoax. textbook pathology manifested in my opinion.

Or, the companies responsible for this hoax's cash flow is insecure and therefore they are creating this hoax as a form of viral marketing to get, hopefully, the big pay off months down the road when their product (potentially developed in a form of venture capitalism by a small but talented firm) is finally released.

BASSPLYR, Did you read my post? I gave at least a valid reason for the lettering. Sure, the "writing" might become degraded, but that does not mean that it never had a real use.

Now I too think this is a hoax/lie, but I find that no reason to ignore any and all potential answers.

You're better than that.

newkid: the first picture that shows the complete setup of the Linguistic Ananlysis Primer (LAP for ease of not having to write all that out), could possibly well be S1, thats a good thought.

So assuming that the LAP is indeed an external device and not an internal mechanism of A1(the antigrav generator), one would wonder what are the measurements of the "small device". Isaac says S1 is small, so is the LAP a 'scale sized' picture? or is it smaller? hm.....

Originally posted by BASSPLYR

Logic is like math. there are hard set rules. And just like math those rules are universal. didn't you take basic logic classes in collage? So alien logic will be no different from computer logic (not Logic the program) and no different than human logic or monkey or cetacian logic.

Actually, that's not quite the whole story. The rules of logic are not universal, when you take into account there there are different systems of logic. While the most common form of logic used on Earth is a binary system (TRUE and FALSE), there has been much work done with Ternary logic systems, and it seems that with the advent of quantum computing such systems will become more relied upon.

My point is that an alien system of logic could in fact be quite different from what we are used to.

Hold on a sec NGC,

I go home for the night and the thread has like 8 more pages or something when I come back. Let me go back and read through your posts and see what you said. I'm still playing catch up in this thread.

What was the use of the writing that you mentioned. I could see it as plain old alien writing but not that it interfaces with the vehicle. Or, if it does only like you said, in a very small degree.

I agree that we generally use one form of logic. Generally we use only simple forms of math too in day to day life, but there are more complicated forms of logic that we are aware of and use, like more complex forms of math. There can only be so many forms of logic. just like math. Sure quantum tech and the understanding of the underlying quantum universe mixes things up a bit and adds to the complexity of our understanding and logic. it still is built from basic building blocks that are universal.

I agree that alien logic could be potentially very complex. but would they disregard the more basic logic underlying their in depth logic. It's like doing trigonometry but ignoring weather or not the addition or multiplication done during while working out the equation is correct and assuming the equation will work out. Hope fully this made any sense as i am now multi tasking at work and doing ATS at the same time...sorry.

But, we also don't know whats really on the aliens minds other than that humans taste good brased in quargzon sauce, cooked at 350 zagnorts for 2 xanbars and smothered in roasted gweegack root. I'm sure thats what the reptilians are thinking. But your right, we don't know how expendable they intend these drones to be. So maybe they don't care that the programming is so easily corruptable as is the cloaking device and if a few dozen go haywire after a hail storm this week or next so what. They've 10,000,000 more.

ok about the writing, what if the material that the characters are made of, like the actual composite material that the writing was made from (paint, etc..) causes an interaction with A1.
Rather than the design of the lettering.

edit for punctuation

[edit on 26-7-2007 by agent violet]

Maybe Isaac's a woman

Originally posted by moonking
Maybe Isaac's a woman

Would you care to elaborate? Are you saying that Isaac purposefully made the postings under as a different gender to throw off anyone attempting to track him down? Or are you making some kind of comment as to why Isaac has not released any more info?

What gives?

Wow... I have been buried with site business the past 24 hours and have been absent from this amazing thread, MUCH GOOD work and excellent thought has been presented over those 24 hours.

Unfortunately the member "11 11" has broken his promise to me to stay utterly civil and has been post banned again. Likely permanently this time.

WRT "11 11's" assertion about people registering multiple accounts to "agree with themselves" I can tell you that is patently FALSE as well.

Carry on and keep digging.

Springer...

That would be cool if they ever make a movie about the drone Isaac report. I would be the first one to see it, I would seat in the middle row with my popcorn and soda and my dog next to me.

The picture starts as a young Isaac working for PACL in Palo Alto California. He then steals picture of the drone then make copies of the report. He was never caught just like a professional spy. Now in 2007 he went to the “coast to coast” website he spotted picture of a drone similar of the stuff he was working in the 80’s. He then release picture of his work but nobody believe this picture were real. Then more and more sighting of the drone appears and then suddenly a large triangular ship appears in front of the White House people start to panics. The invasion begins more and more ships start to attack, but only one man can save us and that is Isaac because he is the only one that can communicate with the aliens. Isaac starts to talk to the aliens and he made a bargain with the alien and world is save from the evil destruction of the alien. Coming soon to a theater near you written and directed by Steven Spielberg, Twenty Century Fox Production etc…. and all that stuff.

Then after that people would feel silly about the drone and then it would be a blockbuster film and you know the rest of the story.