What really happens when you die?

we're never gonna no that untill we're dead. so what ever happens happens

Originally posted by AgentOrange
Just wondering what other people's beliefs in this are. Do we really go to heaven or is it "lights out"?

"Lights out"

The popular belief that we go to heaven or hell directly after we die is a lie. Nothing happens, until the Judgment Day comes then we will be woken up.

We won't even know how long we've been dead. It'll be like waking up from a nap.

My personal belief that it's big black, oblivion for us when we eat it. Hell, I might eb wrong... but hey.

DE

Originally posted by TheTrooper
we're never gonna no that untill we're dead. so what ever happens happens

Not really, we can learn how to have out of body experiences. You can then meet the dead, look back down at your body etc... I've seen my body once while floating about nine or ten feet away.

My personal belief is that consciousness and memory do continue, constantly changing and evolving but all past experience is absorbed into it.

Heaven and hell are oversimplifications, reincarnation is a possibility but then again I suppose so is oblivion. We're probably not supposed to know.

From my own life experience, I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing after life. This is it whether I like it or not. Its an unpopular opinion, but I fear its the truth. I'm not dead, so I don't exactly know for certain.

On the positive side, you won't know how bad it is as you will have ceased to exist.

[Edited on 9-1-2004 by heelstone]

if there would be a reincarnation, you'd remember something form a previous life

anyways, don't worry cause you don't remember who were, and you won't remember who are you now, when you die and become someone else

universe is cruel and heartless

Originally posted by CyberGhost
universe is cruel and heartless

That's just a belief.

Go visit this place and see for yourself...

www.smithsonianmag.si.edu...

whatever your mind has pre-conceived as happening when you die, will actually happen.

I mean ..if you believe you were good and should be going to heaven...then you will
If you believe you were bad and should be going to hell...then you will

heaven and hell will be whatever your concept of heaven and hell is...your heaven and hell could be totally different from my heaven and my hell

Also if you believe in reincarnation, then you will probably be reincarnated.

I think it all depends on how open minded and spiritually aware you are...or closeminded (hence heaven & hell)

personally I believe in reincarnation


[Edited on 1-9-2004 by worldwatcher]

imo the best scenario would be, when you die, to realize that you are dead, to know that you are dead, and not have the memory erased, and don't know what happened and be reunited with your loved ones in eternal after life

but imo nothing, i mean nothing! is better than life on earth!
just to breath the air everyday is blessing!

So why don't y'all get off ya lazy bums and learn to have out-of-body experiences. Or at least lucid dreams.

Questions like these wouldn't be necessary then. I guarantee that.

I tend not to think about whether something happens or not when you're dead. The important thing is to worry about what's happening while we're alive. Worry about this question once you're dead. For now, it's time to enjoy life for however hard it is.

scitech

The original poster was asking for our beliefs...not the answers (which none of us (as living beings) are qualified to give).

So, here's mine.

There is a "soul" for a lack of a better term...that is the sum of you as an entity, and all of you previous incarnations. When you "die", the physical body dies, but the soul (which is part of you that exists on a higher vibration...) then either chooses to be reborn, or remains in this state for a while. The state (called "heaven" by some) is similar to a lucid dreamworld. Eventually, we tire of being Gods in our own little universe, and realize that to learn more, we must be in contact with others. Sometimes, this means a change of vibration, and interating with "live" people (such as through mediums, etc.) Othertimes, we decide to become reborn.

However, some beings have a different mindset upon death, and the universe they create is not like Heaven at all, but more like a Hell. This is especially true with most suicides, where the soul also creates an entrapping "shell" around his/her universe. Eventually, it is hoped that such an entity eventually "comes around" and dissolves the shell, and continues as normal (a parting of the clouds...so to speak). Unfortunately, it appears to be very difficult for other entities (whether live or deceased physically) to contact them.

Originally posted by Amuk
I did not see any light or jesus or my grandma or santa or barney or anybody else. But I did watch them opperate on me, finally stop the bleeding from a gaping hole in my chest and restart my heart. As soon as the paddles hit me my eyes jerked open and I was back in my body where I promptly passed out from lack of blood and shock.

This is what I always suspected would happen when we die. Where do we go after that?
hmmm who know.

sorry to inform you all that advocate near death experiences, but, unfortunately nearly dead is not dead. the brain is still working and hallucinating.

Originally posted by TheBandit795

Originally posted by TheTrooper
we're never gonna no that untill we're dead. so what ever happens happens

Not really, we can learn how to have out of body experiences. You can then meet the dead, look back down at your body etc... I've seen my body once while floating about nine or ten feet away.

you sure you werent high or something? j/k. anyways when did you have your out of body expirence

Originally posted by Ozzie
sorry to inform you all that advocate near death experiences, but, unfortunately nearly dead is not dead. the brain is still working and hallucinating.

Actually when the you are flatlining it is impossible for the brain to *create* hallucinations in such an organised lucid manner, so the possibility remains that these *visions* are originating from something/somewhere else. There is no reductionist explanation that has succesfully explained the NDE as yet.

Originally posted by AgentOrange

Originally posted by Satyr
I tend to think that our energy transforms into something else. That energy is not necessarily consciousness, and you probably won't retain any memories, nor will you be anything resembling life in the least. Of course this is all speculation, but I think it'll be more comparable to an electron jumping orbit into another atom, or electricity finding it's way to ground. Energy doesn't think, it only does what it does. When it's depleted, it's not gone, but merely transformed to become a part of something else. To me, "life" is just energy, in one of it's infinite number of forms. Dying will be the greatest adventure of your lifetime, but you won't even know you're dead. Your body is just a host for this energy. Like a toy that runs on batteries, your consciousness only works until that energy moves on. When it does, you'll cease to exist, by your comprehension of existence.

Once again, this is pure speculation. I won't be so arrogant to claim that I know what happens.

That's a good theory I've never heard before.

Thanks. It's a more scientific perspective, but it seems like the most likely scenario, to me.

Originally posted by TheTrooper


you sure you werent high or something? j/k. anyways when did you have your out of body expirence

Four times, three times out of a lucid dream. Once I felt the vibrations and asked to be pulled out, and I got pulled out. I explained who pulled me out in the RATS forum.

The first time, the phone rang (in the physical world), so I had to force myself back to my body. Now I regret that, I should've just let it ring.

The second and third time I lost consciousness and my subconscious took over. (OOBE became a dream).

The last time, when I got pulled out I had a very uncomfortable feeling in my back, so I decided to head on back to my body.