Muslims Won't Fund Footbaths Leaders Cite ACLU's Decision Not To Oppose Use Of Public Money

Originally posted by shots
But you are missig the point here if you give them an inch they are going to demand a mile, then two, then ten, you get the drift and that scares me.

im not missing an point
your just afraid of what Could happen
so you believe these muslims who ask small requests like these are going to take advantage of this and ask for more. sorry but i find that tad islamophobic as yoour implying all these muslims want is to get their own way. granted there are a few who would.

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by bodrul
now was there any reason to make a big deal out of it? :

But you are missig the point here if you give them an inch they are going to demand a mile, then two, then ten, you get the drift and that scares me.

THEM? Whoa, borderline racism there shots. Why does this scare you? You might like a Hallal meal? I've had them, they're actually better than most. You have to rethink your way of life? Not likely.

What is your fear shots, let's meet this head on. We can get through this together.

Originally posted by bodrul
its only those very religous people that will go to the length of ensuring that they dont face mecca but then again if you commited a crime then i dont see them being that religous.

i wont argue on this as i find it hilerious but the rest of your examples and thoughts , you should have an idea of my views on them.

Yes it sure is funny yet keep in mind the ones making these demands are the very few who are the same few radicals who want to destroy the free world.

Also I find nothing wrong with your points they are fine. I just happen to think the select few are the ones we should be concerned with is all.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing on some points that is what makes the world go round

Originally posted by intrepid

What is your fear shots, let's meet this head on. We can get through this together.

If you need to ask that question obviously you have not read their threats towards the free world have you?

Islam will rule the world

Iran leader: Islam will rule the world

Hamas: Isalam will rule the world

Those are the kinds of attitudes that scare me.

Originally posted by shots
If you need to ask that question obviously you have not read their threats towards the free world have you?

Islam will rule the world

Iran leader: Islam will rule the world

Hamas: Isalam will rule the world

Those are the kinds of attitudes that scare me.

firstly great choice of sources, they lack credibility esp Jihadwatch
is these kind of things that scare me people taking the words of nutcases and then inflaming them, making it bigger then it is then spreading it to the masses who will belive anything.

people that run those sites dont know anything about Islam

and this is a request to you
if you want to know anything about Islam please PM and i will answer your questions or read my SIG as it has information about muslims and non muslims

Originally posted by shots


Those are the kinds of attitudes that scare me.

Propaganda shots. How does that apply to Starbucks? Do they want to do away with coffee?

Walmart? No cheaply made goods for cheap prices?

Is the Ford Focus going to be renamed the Ford Fatah?

shots, have you ever REALLY carried a conversation on with Muslims?

You fear what you don't know imo.

Originally posted by shots
Yes it sure is funny yet keep in mind the ones making these demands are the very few who are the same few radicals who want to destroy the free world.

please do not mix very religous with fanatics, i come from a very religous background (not being over religous myself)

the ones making those demands are religous but not fanatics.
there is a very strong line. they request things not demand like fanatics.

Originally posted by shots
Nothing wrong with disagreeing on some points that is what makes the world go round

atleast you listen to the other side unlike some people
got to give you props for that even if i dont agree with you

Originally posted by bodrul

your just afraid of what Could happen
so you believe these muslims who ask small requests like these are going to take advantage of this and ask for more.

Yes, I am and I have given a few examples the toilets was one, the private prayer rooms were another. Oh and let us not forget the lonely grocery clerk who refused to sell a pizza because it contained pork or how about the cabdrivers who refuse to carry passengers who have bottled liquor on them that is sealed no less. What bout the cab drivers who have refused rto carry the blind because they had seeing eye dogs??? Yes it is coming a little at a time and the problem is many like yourself do not want to see it.

Originally posted by shots
Yes, I am and I have given a few examples the toilets was one, the private prayer rooms were another.

sorry but these examples are pathetic
you taking actions from individuals and turning into a group thing.

Originally posted by shots
Oh and let us not forget the lonely grocery clerk who refused to sell a pizza because it contained pork

please i worked at Tesco when i was 16 and i sold enough Wine, pork, beaf and so on. its personle choice as long as they arent consuming it.
if they feel its moraly wrong for them then they can do refuse,

but that example is only a few people who would
and dont forget some jews would aswell as they share the same view on pork

Originally posted by shots
the cabdrivers who refuse to carry passengers who have bottled liquor on them that is sealed no less.

most cabs dont , you cant carry bottles of alchaol in public areas anyway at night.

or is the law diffrent in the US?

Originally posted by shots
What bout the cab drivers who have refused rto carry the blind because they had seeing eye dogs

so one cab driver erfused to take on a passenger and your saying all muslim cab drivers would do the same?

Originally posted by shots
Yes it is coming a little at a time and the problem is many like yourself do not want to see it.

its many like my self who do not take the smallest issue and blow it up into a larger issue like your self.
all i see are islamophic people looking for any excuse to vent their frustation on others, get any small problem and ensure that its blown up

thank fully not everyone shares the same prospective as you have shown



[edit on 18-6-2007 by bodrul]

Originally posted by intrepid
shots, have you ever REALLY carried a conversation on with Muslims?

You fear what you don't know imo.

No I know what I am talking about. We have a local filling station that once was run by a muslim who is still considered a friend and I had some very serious converstations with and he told me what to watch out for when it comes to the fanatics, he himself disliked their attitude and pushyness if you will. Those conversations took place post 911 and since then he has moved on too selling real estate and building custom homes with an exneighbor of mine and both are doing extremely well.


I also had a muslim doctor for a while but had to change because he did not specialize in the type of problem I had.

Sio yes I have talked to muslims.

Originally posted by shots
We have a local filling station that once was run by a muslim who is still considered a friend and I had some very serious converstations with and he told me what to watch out for when it comes to the fanatics, he himself disliked their attitude and pushyness if you will.

Well good, similar to the conversations I've had. All good.

Those conversations took place post 911 and since then he has moved on too selling real estate and building custom homes with an exneighbor of mine and both are doing extremely well.


I also had a muslim doctor for a while but had to change because he did not specialize in the type of problem I had.

Sio yes I have talked to muslims.

So you have a problem with Muslims when they succeed? Isn't that what America is about? Coming here, making it happen?

Originally posted by bodrul

most cabs dont , you cant carry bottles of alchaol in public areas anyway at night.

or is the law diffrent in the US?

Yes the law in the us differ. We can carry sealled contaianers if and when we want.

so one cab driver erfused to take on a passenger and your saying all muslim cab drivers would do the same?

No not all just a few but in one town in Canada I believe it was most if not all and that has since moved on to their court system for resolution.

Originally posted by intrepid
So you have a problem with Muslims when they succeed? Isn't that what America is about? Coming here, making it happen?

Where the devil did you get that idea? I was praising him for his success he is a very nice and I do mean nice person.

Originally posted by shots
Yes the law in the us differ. We can carry sealled contaianers if and when we want.

ok in the UK your not allowed to carry bottles in the street open or seald
and almost all cabs can deny them.

Originally posted by shots
No not all just a few but in one town in Canada I believe it was most if not all and that has since moved on to their court system for resolution.

you see its just a few and soon they will have to change their attitude or find a diffrent profession.

good night unlike some i have collge in a couple hours

install cameras at Morthwestern,
document the supposed 'need', send a request to install footbaths
which would attempt to be self supporting by charging perhaps a .50 cent accomodation fee for the use of this 'special' equiptment

the video cameras in the bathrooms or seperate cleaning areas
might also be used to identify the individuals who are creating a public hazard by the inappropriate use of sinks for something other than what they were designed for. Also creating slippery floor hazards to the other
patrons who have a reasonable expectation that the university restrooms
would have 'normal' activity and dry floors which is pretty much standard practice in all restrooms across america...

unique situations require unique problem solving,
not just 'throwing money at the problem',
which seems to be the case in this situation.

Originally posted by shots
Oh and let us not forget the lonely grocery clerk who refused to sell a pizza because it contained pork or how about the cabdrivers who refuse to carry passengers who have bottled liquor on them that is sealed no less. What bout the cab drivers who have refused rto carry the blind because they had seeing eye dogs??? Yes it is coming a little at a time and the problem is many like yourself do not want to see it.

Or how about licensed pharmacists refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control pills? Or the men and women who scream at funerals the US servicemen are going to hell for "fighting for gays"? What about those video stores that edit VHS tapes to remove any vaguely sexual or otherwise adult scenes? What about the men and woman who write editorials that stop just shy of demanding that anyone who says "happy holidays" should be lynched? How about all the many, many multimillionaire television entertainers who claim because they quote passages from a book on occasion, they should be tax exempt?

It takes all sorts

Im pretty sure Dearborn has a very large Arab/Muslim population. So even if public funds were used more then likely it is taxes paid by those very same people. On top of the tuition they already pay. I would also think that these could be used by anyone else Im sure, not that very many would need a footbath but I guess its usable by all. I don't think since they were using the sinks that there would be an issue of "infidels" using them as well.

Oh please shots, come on man not again. You tried to make an issue of it at the Kansas city airport, only to find out there was no special footbaths installed. The cab drivers were using a janitorial sink, which they were satisfied with. And when that was presented, you tried to find some connection to still try and make them look bad.

As a matter of fact Christians do sponsor and donate stuff in public schools all the time. It does not make the news because it is everyday stuff and not a big deal.

All I got to say is that this is the second time you have tried to make a group of people look bad because they will wash their feet and simply try to find the best way of doing so. Please man, let the footbath thing go. I like to wash my feet, I am not a Muslim. I dont wash my feet in public places because such facilities do not exist, but if they did, you can darn sure I will use them.

I think you would be surprised at how many non-muslims will be washing their feet if such facilities were installed nationwide in all kinds of public places. From blonde blue eyed hot chicks, to mexican immigrants, athletes, laborors, car salesmen. We sell hundreds of thousands of foot spas in retail centers throughout the years, you dont think many of those people would not take advantage of a foot wash at an airport, university, mall, or office complex??

Dream on man. I think you just like to focus on them because this is part of their culture, and you want to make them look silly.

TWICE, that is TWICE. There is obviously an agenda there. I swear if you do a third in a few months, your true intentions shall be known, as if they are not already.

[edit on 6/18/2007 by DYepes]

Can I just point out that the Koran expressly forbids Muslims from speaking, carrying items referring to Allah etc whilst in the toilet.

As such the article referred to about the postion of toilets for prayer times is most likely total and utter BS, because any self-respecting Muslim isn't going to be praying on the toilet.

I can't believe I'm havign to post this link but hey - its all about ignorance denial;

Islamic toilet etiquette

Originally posted by bodrul
ok in the UK your not allowed to carry bottles in the street open or seald
and almost all cabs can deny them.

So, if you stop on the way home from work and buy a bottle of wine to have with dinner, how the devil do you transport it home??

Originally posted by shots
No not all just a few but in one town in Canada I believe it was most if not all and that has since moved on to their court system for resolution.

you see its just a few and soon they will have to change their attitude or find a diffrent profession.

There have also been numerous, well-publicized incidents at the Minneapolis-St. Paul Int'l Airport, one of the largest airports in the US:

Muslim Cab Drivers Refuse to Transport Alcohol, and Dogs
Minnesota Officials Ponder Suspensions, cab Drivers say it Goes Against Their Belliefs By BARBARA PINTO
Jan. 26, 2007

Commissioners at one of the country's biggest airports are considering punishing Muslim cab drivers who refuse service to passengers possessing alcohol or guide dogs.

The cabbies claim transporting those items violates Islamic law.


"It is against our faith and the airport is discriminating against Muslim drivers," says a cab driver who would only give his first name, Hashim.

abcnews.go.com...

As for the public footbaths,

Originally posted by DYepes
I think you would be surprised at how many non-muslims will be washing their feet if such facilities were installed nationwide in all kinds of public places. From blonde blue eyed hot chicks, to mexican immigrants, athletes, laborors, car salesmen. We sell hundreds of thousands of foot spas in retail centers throughout the years, you dont think many of those people would not take advantage of a foot wash at an airport, university, mall, or office complex??

Not me. Public restrooms at airports are some of the filthiest, smelliest, unsanitary places I can think of. I would never risk my health by washing my feet in one of them. Who knows what foot-eating fungi would be spread by integrating footbaths among the urinals and stalls?

Ugh!