Official: Iranian Weapons Intercepted on Way to Taliban

In other words, Cheney and his team of liars from the Office Of Special Plans leaking distorted & incomplete intel to the media again, to make a case for another Middle East war. And the usual suspects here, ever thirsty to dish out more death and mayhem, will lap it up like cream.

Good find Grover

Yep in a nutshell or as I like to say; stoking the fires of Molach (the Carthagian God of war) in order to feed our children to it.

Oh yes!Who would indeed not believe iranian denials in this latest crime.They also didnt lie about their hidden nuclear weapons program for twenty years,lie that the american diplomatic embassy hostage situation was a'Student action"or the fact that they refuse UN inspections to their"PEACEFUL"nuclear program.Oh>>Did i forget to mention that they openly support terrorist bombings/groups?Its my hope that they export their brand of diplomacy to a european(as where most of the anti-american propaganda comes from)country for some realism.

Originally posted by Xfile
Oh yes!Who would indeed not believe iranian denials in this latest crime.

Just remember who are the real criminals here, and remember who is invading who and for what purposes.

While one is spreading death and destruction I mean democracy and freedom the other is defending its right to be called terrorist and axis of evil I mean the sovereignty and the right to their existence.

I must have said it a dozen times now... while I am no fan of the current regime in Iran; not only did we do it to ourselves when we reinstalled the Shah in 53 because we did not like the new republic; we would be mad, certifiably insane to attack or invade Iran.... it is nor Iraq, it will not fall easily and it will fight back and the entire middle east would explode because of it. In this case violence should be the absolutely last option, the absolutely last.

Originally posted by marg6043

Originally posted by Xfile
Oh yes!Who would indeed not believe iranian denials in this latest crime.

Just remember who are the real criminals here, and remember who is invading who and for what purposes.

While one is spreading death and destruction I mean democracy and freedom the other is defending its right to be called terrorist and axis of evil I mean the sovereignty and the right to their existence.

Im not simpatico with bush inc.Marge.But you have to know that iran is biggest threat to close off our oil from the gulf.Im guessing you realize that act would shut down our All our factories,transportation,Food distibution in a short time.Its like we told the russians.We will keep the oil flowing at ALL COSTS...

Originally posted by Xfile
Im guessing you realize that act would shut down our All our factories,transportation,Food distibution in a short time.Its like we told the russians.We will keep the oil flowing at ALL COSTS...

Yes I do and guess what . . . perhaps that is what this nation needs to open its eyes to the corporate corruption and power grab of the world resources and start demanding other sources of energy to get off the corruption plaguing our nation's goverment in pursue of control of markets.

Perhaps that is what we need.

Let the oil producing countries drown in their own oil.

Theres plenty of oil around other than Iran, and they are not going to just shut off their biggest revenue source to make a point unless they have their backs put up against the wall by the schoolyard bully. How you can support what your government is trying to do Xfile, to me this is alien, would you also support a tactical nuclear strike on the Iranian nuclear facilities??
Your 2 countries are actually very similiar, both run by religious extremists, strong cultural influence in the world, millions of drug addicts, people imprisoned without due process, and the people of both countires being used and manipulated. I believe the actual real people in the U.S and Iran would have alot to gain through friendship.

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[edit on 13-6-2007 by Peruvianmonk]

The biggest threat to our flow of oil from the middle east is our own damned behavior. When will people understand that simple fact. Our behavior, our meddling in their affairs from Pakistan to Palestine and running rough shod over the desires of its people from the overthrow of the Shah on have created the beast that we deal with now.

Originally posted by grover
The biggest threat to our flow of oil from the middle east is our own damned behavior. When will people understand that simple fact. Our behavior, our meddling in their affairs from Pakistan to Palestine and running rough shod over the desires of its people from the overthrow of the Shah on have created the beast that we deal with now.

Some grover like you think that its our support of israel that creates All hostilty toward the west.I believe that radical islam would have targeted us sooner or later.CONVERT OR DIE INFIDEL!

Originally posted by Xfile
I believe that radical islam would have targeted us sooner or later.CONVERT OR DIE INFIDEL!

Actually that may look like the reason but that is because we have been drilled that Islam is evil and muslins, no only radicals are there to take away our freedoms and way of life.

But our nation has done more damage to the middle east by actions and inactions that they would ever do to us.

So I am kind of doubtful that is all about Covert and die infidel. With our invasion in the middle east we are almost doing the same.

Turn you resources to us or else, you are we us or against us.

X file could you answer the question i put to you in my last post i would be interested to hear your response. Also Radical Islam targeted you because American administrations time after time prop up human right abusing governments in countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Ukbekazstain, Egypt. Support a country (Israeli) without any crictisim or vision for a peace plan, which openly occupies Palestinian land and kills innocent muslims. Because America has troops based on muslim holy land in Saudi Arabia and of course now Iraq and Afghanistan which is leading to the deaths of muslims. Sure Some if not most of the terrorists are bastards who portray themselves as muslims, but what do you expect when your leaders act like bastards. Like a certain Rapper flowed ' You really think this country wouldn't destroy 2 buildings in a country that was sponsering bombs dropped on our childeren?'

Originally posted by Xfile

Originally posted by grover
The biggest threat to our flow of oil from the middle east is our own damned behavior. When will people understand that simple fact. Our behavior, our meddling in their affairs from Pakistan to Palestine and running rough shod over the desires of its people from the overthrow of the Shah on have created the beast that we deal with now.

Some grover like you think that its our support of israel that creates All hostilty toward the west.I believe that radical islam would have targeted us sooner or later.CONVERT OR DIE INFIDEL!

I never said that though it obviously contributes to the mix. Why do you think parts of Islam have become radicalized? The answer is simple and obvious, the governments in the region fail to meet the needs of the people which culturally (and religiously) speaking a major issue inside Islam. It so happens that those very governments that are most threatened by radical Islam are the ones most closely tied to the west. Now it may very well have happened that other regimes, less friendly to the west would have failed to meet the needs of their people as well... but we (and they ) don't know that.... all they know is that the powers that be that cater to the needs of the west are the most corrupt ergo....

Nothing exists in a vacumn including radical Islam.

Originally posted by marg6043

Originally posted by Xfile
I believe that radical islam would have targeted us sooner or later.CONVERT OR DIE INFIDEL!

Actually that may look like the reason but that is because we have been drilled that Islam is evil and muslins, no only radicals are there to take away our freedoms and way of life.

But our nation has done more damage to the middle east by actions and inactions that they would ever do to us.

So I am kind of doubtful that is all about Covert and die infidel. With our invasion in the middle east we are almost doing the same.

Turn you resources to us or else, you are we us or against us.

Just curious, but in what way have we been drilled that Islam is evil? And that muslims as a whole are taking away our freedom. I have never been taught in any way to hate a religion or to think that followers of a belief are evil.

And we are doing the same as convert or die? What are you talking about? We are not over there ramming religion down anyone's throat. We took out an evil dictator, not because of his religious beliefs, but because of his evil acts.

I mean honestly by the way some of you sound, its like there are no bad people out there except for in America. Everyone is just a victim. Poor terrorists. Man they got a raw deal.

Just to reiterate though can you show me some links or facts or anything showing we in any way promote hate against Islam and muslims as a whole?

I have a very simple question:

If there is evidence, where is it?
Why tell us that there is evidence if they don't actually provide it?

If the evidence isn't presented there can only be one explanation for this "report"; Dis-information fed to the ignorant masses through mass-media with the intent of garnering support for an unjust war.

In other words, business as usual.

Originally posted by stumason
What forces does the UN have, specifically? None. Sometimes I wonder if Americans understand the UN as it appears many have a misconception about it.

They mandated NATO to be in charge of Afghanistan, so NATO should deal with it, else they are failing in their mandate.

Yes I'm well aware of that fact the the UN does have a fighting force under their strict control. In the past they have organized peacekeeping forces when needed made up of soldiers from different nations. This is what I was referring to, I just assumed people would understand what I meant. I guess us Americans have to spell everything out for you brits.

This is the beginning of the war.
I'm guessing that US is going to lead another attack.
A for both answers tho.

I knew there was something up when they said no action will be taken against Iran considering developments over recent months.

Soften up the public then hit them with the reality.

They must have known since this was discovered. In fact, I remember seeing something from a news website saying how intercepted weapons were almost positively from Iran, yet it was forgotten about until now.

All this says to me is that the media machine is doing a great job of reporting what certain people want us to hear in a very 'useful' sequence.

Maybe nothing will happen and I hope it doesn't, but this seems to be something that cannot be ignored.

At least this time they would have had a real reason for conflict as opposed to other situations in the recent past.

What they have thus far presented us with is a couple of trucks at a time coming from Iran with weapons. What it doesn't prove is Iranian government involvement in the supply of the weapons or even knowledge of the supply.
It's like saying the Mexican President is supplying all the drugs that cross into the US. The drugs surely are there but that does not mean the government is involved in the supply or even knows about it.

Anyway, it's not the gun that kills, it's the person behind it. Therefore supplying weapons should not be such a crime and the suppliers are not responsible for how those weapons are used. Or does that argument only apply to the pro-gun lobby in the USA and the military industrial complex billionaires?

Originally posted by seenitall
At least this time they would have had a real reason for conflict as opposed to other situations in the recent past.

Ah... what reason would that be?

Because they say they have "irrefutable evidence"?
Didn't someone say something like that about WMDs in Iraq?

Until these people start showing use this evidence, I call BS.

What really amazes me is that people still swallow this crap.

Originally posted by Britguy
Anyway, it's not the gun that kills, it's the person behind it. Therefore supplying weapons should not be such a crime and the suppliers are not responsible for how those weapons are used. Or does that argument only apply to the pro-gun lobby in the USA and the military industrial complex billionaires?

Very true.

Everyone here does understand that the US is the world's largest arms dealer, right?
This is kinda like the pot calling the kettle back... except not.
It's more like Jeffrey Dahmer calling John Wayne Gacy a freak.
Ya know?

[edit on 14-6-2007 by BitRaiser]