Official: Iranian Weapons Intercepted on Way to Taliban

Official: Iranian Weapons Intercepted on Way to Taliban

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PARIS — The United States has "irrefutable" evidence that Iran is transferring weapons to the Taliban in Afghanistan, with the knowledge of the Iranian government, and NATO has intercepted some of the shipments, a senior U.S. diplomat said Wednesday.

"It's certainly coming from the government of Iran. It's coming from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard corps command, which is a basic unit of the Iranian government."

"It's a very serious question," he said, adding that Iran is in "outright violation" of relevant U.N. Security Council resolutions.

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Multiple Choice Question: What do you think?

Is this;

A. Falsified Information to Start Another War
B. An Attempt By Iran To Bogg Down USA Forces to prevent an Attack againt them.
C. Iran has a right to protect the Taliban and Pursue nuke Weapons.
D. Other, Please Explain.



What Do You Think Will Be The Outcome?

A. Iran Will Be Attacked
B. UN Will Be Called in to protect the border
C. Iran Will Succeed in Preventing an Attack
D. Iran will openly attack US Forces in the Gulf

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Funny how the story refers to some shipments not a shipment.

This could be many things and open to speculation.

The funny thing also is that while Iran is supposely sending weapons to our enemies we are still the enemy in the area invading their lands.

Funny also that when US do its thing in other nations it has the power to do so through third party hands so US weapons do not end in the hands of others as evidence.

Money and third party fundings goes a long way, look at Africa and their struggles in Sudan.

The Rebels seems to be getting better arms, weapons and training, I be is not the taliban or Al-qeada and neither Iran's doing.

Wars are so profitable and the powerful always gets its way.

Occurs our government needs to attack Iran so the circle be completed, after all Cheney wants it that way.

Here's CNN's report on this.
Iran is arming Taliban, U.S. diplomat says

In regards to your questions... For the first, most likely 'A'. Thats my oppinion when keeping in mind the history of the US government giving "falsified" information as a pretext for war. Always the possibility that theres an even bigger picture, with an even bigger agenda and even more culprits. Iran (leaders) could be "in" on this aswell.

Just too many possibilities, and no way of knowing the truth...no matter what people may claim.

What Do You Think Will Be The Outcome?

Probably first 'B' (UN Will Be Called in to protect the border), from there it can be progressed easily, and made out as if Iran 'started it' (attack UN border patrol or something). Also this way it makes the conditioning a much smoother process for the public. Can't just 'jump the gun' ya know? Public might think it's a bit obvious.

Ultimately though, Iran will be attacked. It's pretty much inevitable now.

[edit on 13/6/07 by Navieko]

D.
For me i would say Iran is probabley supplying the Taliban weapons but it's no different from America supplying weapons to the terrorist organisation Jundallah maritimes.indymedia.org...

And the Mojahedin-e Khalq Organization (MKO).
www.globalresearch.ca...

Read these 2 articles and tell me what is the difference between Americas actions and the Iranians, they are both as bad as each other, but this wouldn't be happening in Afghanistan if the U.S weren't putting so much pressure on Iran. Infact Iran kept out of Iran until recently, allowing America and allies to try and stabalise the country.

A. Iran of course will be attacked

[edit on 13-6-2007 by Peruvianmonk]

[edit on 13-6-2007 by Peruvianmonk]

Ok now for my answers to the questions.

The 1st Question:

Answer: A

The USA has a history of falsifying intel to give them a pretext for War. Unfortunately they have lost my trust with the Iraq War Lies.


2nd Question: A

Iran will be attacked in order to send them a message. It will probably be a tactical nuke strike against their nuclear facilities aswell as an airstrike against their military aircrafts and communications.

Yes the U.S does have a history of falsyfing evidence, but i feel with out a doubt that Iran will be supplying weapons to the Taliban to retain their influence in a country they have had good relations with for many years, compared to America who only realised they were there after, the gas reserves were discovered. The hypocrisy of the American administration is astronomical. They supply terrorist groups with weapons all over the world as well as to corrupt human rights abusing regimes.

Why would the Iranian military, which is comprised of Shi'tes, help out the Taliban which claim to be Sunnis?

Have the arms been identified as coming from Iran, through serial numbers, or have they actually witnessed the Iranian Revolutionary Guard supplying these weapons? If the former, then how is it that they can conclude that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard are supplying it?

Funny....

Before the 2001 invasion and for several years after, at least, the Taleban and Iran were, how shall we put it, not very good chums....

In fact, in 2001, I do believe Iran closed the border with Afghanistan to prevent the retreat of senior Taleban figures and personnel.

IF, and that is a big if, they are sending weapons, then the Taleban are being used as a proxy pawn in a bigger game by the Iranians.

Iran sure as hell doesn't care about the Taleban as a movement, but it does care about bogging down coalition forces and also, I would imagine, getting very good intel on us back from the Taleban or entrenched Iranian observers.

The relationship between Iran is not a particularly friendly one.
While I know rightwingers have a hard time wrapping their heads around this, not all Islamic radicals are on the same side.

The Taliban and the Iranian government have been enemies for quite a while, so I am skeptical at the very least.

I wouldn't be shocked to see the Quds force doing whatever it could to give the US more headaches in Afghanistan though - nor would I particularly blame them. The more trouble we have there, the less time & energy we have to spend messing with Iran.

Still I don't really trust this report - this administration has a proven track record of releasing deceptive "intelligence information" in order to get it's war on...

Originally posted by Peruvianmonk
Yes the U.S does have a history of falsyfing evidence

I don't think that's fair. No one would argue that the US was negligent leading up to Iraq, and people are justified in saying "I'm not going to take them at face value next time," but to ascribe intent? If there was intent, that's bad. But no one has proven it yet. The issue needs to be framed on common ground. Unproven statements don't help either way.

In any case, I have wondered seriously whether this is a proxy war. There are rumors of Iranian troops and goods crossing the border of Iraq, and now we hear that they may be giving aid to the Taliban? Cold War tactics at their finest.

You all seem to be ignoring the fact that America is doing exactky the same thihg as Iran is doing, arming the enemy. Read the articles i linked on my 1st post and have a re-think.

Lets just assume for a minute that this intel is truthful and irrefutable. If that's the case the U.S. really needs to hand the evidence over to the UN and let them verify it. I am not generally a big fan of the UN, but it this is real I think their forces need to be the ones to put a stop to this. It's their rules that are being broken, the US has dug themselves a deep enough hole as it is in the ME.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Don't forget as well as conclude just that the Iranians andTaliban have a very bad relationship between the two, when both would be glad to get the U.S. out of Afghanistan. They both have a common objective.

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but this has been suspected and "verified" for quite a while really i think all this will result in nothing more than increase in patrol at the border if we were to falsify something to go to war with iran it would have two major distinctions 1. it would be on the news almost all day 2. it would be something that would bring international indignation like our soldiers were kidnapped/killed plane shot down ship sunk something like that

[edit on 13-6-2007 by justanothergangster]

Originally posted by yadboy
Lets just assume for a minute that this intel is truthful and irrefutable. If that's the case the U.S. really needs to hand the evidence over to the UN and let them verify it. I am not generally a big fan of the UN, but it this is real I think their forces need to be the ones to put a stop to this. It's their rules that are being broken, the US has dug themselves a deep enough hole as it is in the ME.

What forces does the UN have, specifically? None. Sometimes I wonder if Americans understand the UN as it appears many have a misconception about it.

They mandated NATO to be in charge of Afghanistan, so NATO should deal with it, else they are failing in their mandate.

Originally posted by deltaboy
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Don't forget as well as conclude just that the Iranians andTaliban have a very bad relationship between the two, when both would be glad to get the U.S. out of Afghanistan. They both have a common objective.

[edit on 13-6-2007 by deltaboy]

Well said.

I wonder if an arabic looking guy with a "I am part of the Taliban" t-shirt, with his official Taliban ID card, and Taliban decoder ring, come up to you and punch you in the nose, if you would somehow twist it to think it was the evil American government that was actually the one who did it. Stop taking up for terrorist. Please.

Be careful that your lust for exposing the government doesnt blind you to see some facts every now and again..... Marg especially.... While I do respect your opinions, it just seems like you are so deadset that big brother is out to get you that you cannot fathom terrorist really do wanna harm us.


[edit on 13-6-2007 by Aaron_Justin]

well but we put every middle eastern man with a gun under the category terrorist some of them really are just trying to protect there country.....imean imagine if mexico invaded ((cant say it with a straight face)) i know i would put up a resistance on my own....but over there where we have already completely ahnihalated there official army the people who dont wanna see another nation in there country if they wanna have any chance against us would be forced to join the taliban.....im not sticking up for terrorists but one mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter....just because our intentions are good doesnt mean thats what the locals want and who are we to force them to accept what we want for them

Is this anything like the 'proof' of WMD in Iraq?

Pull the other one!

p.

An article in the Guardian published May 22 quoted an anonymous U.S. official as predicting an "Iranian-orchestrated summer offensive in Iraq, linking al Qaeda and Sunni insurgents to Tehran's Shia militia allies" and as referring to the alleged "Iran-al Qaeda linkup" as "very sinister".

That article and subsequent reports on CNN May 30, in the Washington Post Jun. 3 and on ABC news Jun. 6 all included an assertion by an unnamed U.S. official or a "senior coalition official" that Iran is following a deliberate policy of supplying the Taliban's campaign against U.S., British and other NATO forces.

In the most dramatic version of the story, ABC reported "NATO officials" as saying they had "caught Iran red-handed, shipping heavy arms, C4 explosives and advanced roadside bombs to the Taliban for use against NATO forces."

Far from showing that Iran had been "caught red-handed", however, the report quoted from an analysis which cited only the interception in Afghanistan of a total of four vehicles coming from Iran with arms and munitions of Iranian origin. The report failed to refer to any evidence of Iranian government involvement.

Both Gates and McNeill denied flatly last week that there is any evidence linking Iranian authorities to those arms. Gates told a press conference on Jun. 4, "We do not have any information about whether the government of Iran is supporting this, is behind it, or whether it's smuggling, or exactly what is behind it." Gates said that "some" of the arms in question might be going to Afghan drug smugglers.

The commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. McNeill, implied that the arms trafficking from Iran is being carried out by private interests. "[W]hen you say weapons being provided by Iran, that would suggest there is some more formal entity involved in getting these weapons here," he told Jim Loney of Reuters June 5. "That's not my view at all." .

www.ipsnews.net...


When will it become clear that there are some seriously irresponsible forces within this administration (VP Cheney for one) who seem to favor war at whatever the cost?

More dangerous overstatements and propaganda is all that this is.