Israel Willing To Withdraw From Golan For Syrian Peace

Israel Willing To Withdraw From Golan For Syrian Peace

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Israel conveyed secret messages via Turkish and German mediators to Syrian President Bashar Assad, informing him that Israel is willing to withdraw from the Golan Heights in exchange for peace. The report that appeared in the Yedioth Aharonoth newspaper on Friday, said the context of Olmert’s message conveyed to Assad, stated that Israel is willing to pay the price for peace on the condition that Assad severe ties with Iran and terror groups in the region.

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I was not expecting this. How true it is I dont know. Better than a war. Will this make Isreals enemys more aggesive to them now. Or is this the best for all partys involved

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He is another link
www.theaustralian.news.com.au...

I don't believe this report. Giving up the Golan would be a strategic mistake. Israel has given up land for peace in the past and what has it got them?

True, the report maywell be wrong. Can you think of any benfits to the Isreal by doing this? Same token if it stops another war is that not a better deal? May I ask this, if they give it back will Syria start acting less agressive.

Well, it may not be as bad an idea as one might think. If we think about it for a minute, this could be just what the region needs. Let me put this into perspective for a minute...

Who's Israel's principle supporter? You guessed it, the USA. Now, if they give the Golan Heights back to Syria, does anyone think that the Syrians won't use this to their advantage? Sure they will. If history is any indication, Syria will take the Golan Heights, and claim they took it by force.

Next, they'll continue to converse with Iran and other terrorist organizations, and then Israel will be left with yet another burgeoning conflict to deal with in her very climactic history. When it comes to blows this time around, the USA will have a reason to step in and help, since Israel is in a bad position, and will be being looked upon as the defenders, which they would be. The US would then help Israel to push Syria out of the Golan Heights yet again, but this time, we'd plow right on through Syria and into Iran, using this most recent conflict as a reason for invasion.

That's just one of several possibilities that could happen. Nothing's to say something like that WILL happen; it just won't be a surprise to me if it does. Hopefully though, this will be as innocuous as it appears. I sincerely hope so, for the whole world's sake.

TheBorg

P.S. I just want everyone to remember these words that have been spoken here, as when/if it actually happens, I'll be pointing right here, saying how it wasn't a newsflash. Consider it a warning of things to come.

Well there is logic in what you say, Funny world aint in?

More than likely, Israel is doing this, so that when it does strike Iran, it will have Syria on its side. That or when Israel strikes Iran, Syria will not support either side, giving Israel a better chance at invading Iran.

When it comes to "peace talk" from Israel, not everything is so black and white. They gave up lands in the past, only to still control the the water pipelines, roadways, and checkpoints. After receiving a terrorist attack, Israel would punish the entire town by placing a curfew and stopping all water pipes for weeks.

Israel is probably attempting to secure two flanks for a limited time, those being the syrian front and the hezbollah supply lines going through syria. I really doubt that Israel is going to invade iran, but it's highly likely that they will attept a strategic strike against Iranian ICBM and Nuclear assets. And if Iran respods against USA or Israeli civilian population USAF and USN will cripple the iranian military.

Would Syria really forget its pact with Iran because they have the heights back? I mean if Iran sort of falls would they not be next. Revenge and all that stuff.

how many times have we heard these reports.

Id123
Maybe Syrians have been informed that Iran will fall soon and they are now offered a honorable way out of the situation looking like good negotiators and peacemakers. Basically Israel is offering them land in exchange of breaking a pact with Iran. Israel gains free hands to deal with Iran and maybe Hezbollah (btw i think Syrians have lost the little control they ahd over Hezbollah, so they maybe a liability to Damaskus too)

To northwood,

Thats a intersting point. for I all know it could be true.

Syria seems to have spent alot of money on defence though, Maybe they have been given away out as you say, Maybe if they agree to a deal they dont want to get shafted next. what kind of pressure could Iran put on Syria for there mutual defence pact to say in force? Any thoughts

I have just read more on this, Your making sence to me
[edit on 8-6-2007 by Id123]

[edit on 8-6-2007 by Id123]

What about the water in the heights? Isn't that one of the most vital water sources for Israel? If that's true then it would make it seem like this is a bogus promise for some political reason. Maybe they want to gather sympahty before something big happens...

Originally posted by northwolf
I really doubt that Israel is going to invade iran, but it's highly likely that they will attept a strategic strike against Iranian ICBM and Nuclear assets.

Israel isn't capable of invading Iran - how can a country of 6 million occupy a country of 70 million. As far as striking "Iranian ICBM and Nuclear assets" - Iran has no ICBM's, only IRBM's, and no nuclear weapons. Also I have doubts about how effectively the Israelis can really hit Iran - their conventional offensive systems lack the range to strike Iran.

[edit on 6/8/07 by xmotex]

Don`t be so sure that Iran does not have nuclear weapons.

Originally posted by Razor1
I don't believe this report. Giving up the Golan would be a strategic mistake. Israel has given up land for peace in the past and what has it got them?

Let's not go there. You can't give up something you took by force...what has it gotten the previous tenets is what I ask you.

In any case I would like to believe this to be true however all of this is ominous to a terrible period of time around the corner.

To me, this is a typically disingenuous offer from the Israelis. There is no chance that the Syrians will cut off ties with Iran, not a single chance. Therefore the Israelis could offer Syria Jerusalem in exchange for the same things and Damascus would not accept it.

Israel knows that the recently discovered maps which clearly place the Golan in Syrian territory will eventually force Israel to hand it back. Failing that the Syrians are more than capable of launching another offensive, in conjunction with Hezbollah/Hamas attacks, to win what is legitimately theirs, back by force.

Israel is once again aiming to punch above its weight here. It's trying to get something for basically nothing. It's trying to isolate Iran for obvious reasons and it wont work. Nations generally do not like being dictated to as to whom they can and cannot have ties to. That whole sovereignty business is kind of a touchy subject for most nations.

[edit on 8/6/07 by subz]

I agree with you subz.I,too think israel made that offer knowing darn well the syrians wouldnt break there defense pact with iran.Nor would they stop supporting the terrorist groups that do their defacto fighting for them(syria).

Originally posted by subz
To me, this is a typically disingenuous offer from the Israelis. There is no chance that the Syrians will cut off ties with Iran, not a single chance.

i agree with you here. all things being as they seem.
however, if they are not what they seem, i think northwolf may have a point.

Maybe Syrians have been informed that Iran will fall soon and they are now offered a honorable way

here is a theroy.
remember that iranian general who defected? what if he has singing like a bird?

lets see,
russia gets mad about missle defence. then, bush and putin meet, and now russia thinks its a good idea, just put it over there instead.
remember, iran and russia have been butting heads for years.

USA anounces they will not strike iran.
(can anyone say israel...)

so,
iran gets hit. we move on the boarder to dissmantle the arms trade network from iran, israel moves on hezbola, and the P.A., and we brace for spill-over.

of course, all the sleepers would be drawn out at that time, and the FBI would be given free hand to move on cells in the USA. same with the brits.

just my two cents.