Due to member demand, the 9/11 forum is now under close staff scrutiny.

1. THIS SITE! is getting very wrack
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Every post i been posting is GONE!! Y i know y because Some people GET the point so good That they become awake!
NOW!! what happen tow 3 of my Topics! about 9/11 3 of them!! down! ??????????

1 of them is
call: 9/11 3D Analysis (Media Manipulation?

reply to post by HYADEAN2025


Look what I found in the 911 forum, just where you left it 9/11 3D Analysis (Media Manipulation?)

You might like to have a look here Member ProfileHYADEAN2025

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


good idea like those threads that israel was behind 9/11? thats a bit ridiculous dont you think so?
until we have more proof then maybe ya but speculation isnt good.

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com

 

good idea like those threads that israel was behind 9/11? thats a bit ridiculous dont you think so?
until we have more proof then maybe ya but speculation isnt good.

edit on 3-9-2011 by Agent_USA_Supporter because: (no reason given)

Why is speculation not good? I mean, i don't particpate in this mud pit for the most part. But I still cannot fathom how speculating is going to cause some ill fate. Our speculation, in the grand scheme, is irrelevant.

It just seems that you are wanting to silence a viewpoint you disagree with?

The way ATS is set up is if you find something that just shakes you to much, you ignore it. You don't silence it.

I was 2 blocks away from the WTC when it was hit, after a bit of watching i asked a few of fire fighters/police officers what happened and they all said "a couple of planes hit the towers, then a bunch of bombs went off ". all i know is that there arent any explosive stuff in office buildings and if they heard explosions after the planes hit then they must have been bombs

reply to post by Realtruth
What happened?Did I miss something?I haven't been on for a few hrs and the place falls apart?By the way I agree with you,that's why I stay clear of those threads,for the most part. I'm just as passionate as the next person about 911,but jeez people you get raked over the coals on those threads.I come on hear to try and answer some of the "what ifs"could have,would haves ect..ect,you get the point.On a forum such as ATS people should be able to speak of the impossibles as well as hard facts without the name-calling,and personal insults.I glad it's going to be scrutinized because some of the members need to understand that everybody has an opinion and that's ok...no harm no foul.
by the way,what thread started this fiasco?

as of right now...

you're all on "double secret probation" !!

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


It almost brings a tear to my eye knowing that the mods and staff on ATS are wise and understanding of the social aspects in our society, especially online.

Kudos!

reply to post by Agent_USA_Supporter


well how silly is that....sorry i just had to laugh...please no offense....but ALL conspiracy is speculation.....cause if there was 100% proof of everythnig...then guess what there would be no conspiracy now would there.

this thread i have been reading from the start...and it is interesting how it is being approached.....can i ask the MODS if there is a side to to 9/11 discussions that is maybe promoting this action...

yes it can be a bit dis concerting when people have strong view points and they personallise the rebuttals...

but if you think about it....the actions of the day have achieve the goals...wether it be from within or with out the govenment.

the term here for it is DIVIDE AND CONQUER....

well success......it has been achieved...and to be achieved on a conspiracy site is amazing.....conspiracy is all speculation as i has said....so i think...possibly UFOS should be stopped......cause we all know they are REAL....MAYBE JFK threads should be stopped as we know he was shot and that is that...move on folks nothing to see there...

Chemtrails are a no go...as who has not seen clouds in the sky.....so i ask again...what side of the fence is this getting pressure from....as i am a so called truther....and i know how many things i get called by the OSer's but i get on with it....

is the world a warm and fuzzy place...nope...and just because we are all members we all have our own opinions.....but i can say this....the truthers lose on this one....as the only so called evidence...ONLY comes from one side of the story really...and that is the evidence put out by none other than FEMA and NIST...because all real evidence was shipped off on a slow boat to china.

but i am not here to dicuss that....it was to make a point.....SPECULATION=CONSPIRACY

so lets speculate here.....one side of the membership speaks louder than the other....LOBBYISTS....and the staff get fed up...even though they try their best to deal with VICIOUS..personal attacks.

but if it comes to the point where topics are not allowed to be dicussed it is a shame.....

My brother has MS...yet i refrain from talking about the M word as it has been deemed off limits....even though i know how much it helps him in his everyday life.

can you see my point.....this is becoming censorship.....And well i am afraid that is a shame....and i really hope it does not lead to migrations to other sites...as this has always been a decent forum.

I mean just look at Youtube...not a bbs type site but definately a free for all....and you know something people cope.

a freedom of opinion is about to be lost here......now as for the JEWISH thang.......it gets tiring....people talk about blacks,muslims,religions,politics,hate,...and all other things that may offend somebody in some way or another......i ask why should jews be excluded.....not kosher.

now when i speak of Jews i speak of something different....It is not about Jews....many things that occur in this world are about ZIONISTS....and people are smart enough for the most part to understand the difference...just making a point not here to dicuss it .

also UFOS....hmmmm...that one is a tricky one....i see people coming in on regular basis....bashing people whom try to present anything on the subject and getting basically beliittled......but you know what....when your on the actual conspiracy side of the fence we expect to get bashed as we are brave enough to think outside the percieved norm....outside the brainwashed side of the public.

I ask SO why did you create this site in the first place,,,,I assume it was because you thought outside what the mainstream thought.

So i ask the staff of ATS to think hard on what is being proposed and think of all the implications of what you think you might be wanting to achieve and what you might actually achieve.

from what i am seeing is it will make people fearful to speak freely....and too me personally....such a shame.

reply to post by Sauron


now i would like to say the approach might have been ...member i just checked and found it here...you might want to try and user your member profile to find it.

Originally posted by Sauron
reply to post by HYADEAN2025

 

Look what I found in the 911 forum, just where you left it 9/11 3D Analysis (Media Manipulation?)

You might like to have a look here Member ProfileHYADEAN2025

not sure how it read from the mod ....but it read a wee touch patronizing to the member....

also yet again showing how things can be seen and the sublty in the written language and how it can be misconstrued.

please don't discipline me for pointing things out.

reply to post by dragnet53


you could be right...annd that is speculation so it might not count as conspiracy...

I think the MODS do a great job as it is....Now i know i anger some people on 9/11 thread and they get upset at me because i do try and put out evidence to counter the OS and of course it is mostly my own work as i think it shows best what i am saying....and i get call many things for it...but it is my opinion...but i i amgetting the feeling my opinion will not count here soon.

Also sorry for MODs for a series of runs here...but i am just replying now as i like to read a entire thread then try to reply,

ok guys....i ask a question in here.....i just came across this Brand new posting.....

Now how should one respond.....i know what i thought when i first saw it.

Ten years after 9/11, the conspiracy theorist nutjobs are still telling lies!

now this is the MSM saying this about truthers.......shame shame

So please DO NOT REMOVE THIS THREAD

as you see great scrutiny will need to be exercised....and believe me i know that ATS are trying to deal with the personal attacks....but lets not let them supercede real world happenings..

Signed: NUTJOB

i git a message in my inbox about bad language etc etc . not me man never posted anything about tv fakery I JUST ASKED WHAT TIME YOU HEARD ABOUT 9/11 IHEARD ABOUT IT AT 11.20 AM GMT .so why pick on me other members have said this is the first time this has happened INTERESTING FOLKS INTERESTING shows that things are not what they seem on this site nanu nanu

Originally posted by Gools

Originally posted by swimmer
... This looks more like a .gov site with a sole purpose to make any alternative way of thinking (NORMAL WAY OF THINKING) look bad, ugly and completely wrong.

ATS is not different from CNN, only it has slightly different purpose.

Brave moderators are defending official truth...once again.

What the hell are you talking about? If you hate it here so much, don't let the door hit you on the way out. Your post is extremely insulting.

Want to discuss holocaust denial with all the other little neo-nazis? Go to this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Want to discuss the "no planes it was all holograms and project blue beam theory"? Try an ATS search. There's plenty of threads.

Want to discuss how ATS itself is a cointelpro operation? There's even a thread for that, more than one in fact.

ATS has never silenced any topic for discussion and your post is extremely insulting.

Just because we won't succumb to board gangs or let the lunatics run the asylum does not make us the bad guys.

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they silenced my thread topic....i was trying to find out how many ats members that believe in the official truth of 9/11 also support israel.....it was sent to the trash bin......i think this whole issue of policing the 9/11 forum is kind of funny, i didn't realize how many people take this site so seriously....amazing and ridiculous at the same time.........i think ats should ban talk of 9/11 all together and then it can be just a ufo/alien chat website.....

When I started browsing ATS all those many many years ago. The 9/11 forums were great. They had passionate people willing to debate and debunk any of the OS with facts and logic. The same goes for debunking these so called 'disinfo' type threads.

People just seem to be set in there beliefs now, 10 years after the event it seems people do not want to change there ideals on this issue. They have the model of how 9/11 went down that works for them and get argumentative with people who disagree or try and debate it.

When I used to browse ATS the no planes theory was new, holographic planes theory was new. Thermite theory was new. I watched all these idea and theories go under huge 50 post long debates until inevitably they were either debunked or the people just agree'd to disagree.

What I see now is totally different. Same with alot of other forums on this website actually. Maybe it just becomes like this when topics are older and there's more people debating them all throwing there 0.02 in. Everybody is convinced they know what went down on 9/11 but the only fact we can actually, without a doubt all agree on is; We don't know for sure, we can never know, nobody knows except those that did it.

It's almost pointless debating 9/11 now. People will either go out there and look at the facts, possible motives and the conspiracy thinking behind what is absolutely plausible, or they won't. They will blindly repeat what others say as long as it fits there 'model' on how the world runs. If you think government did it, great... there's evidence they were involved and lots of motive etc. If you think it was Muslims, great there's obviously evidence for that... Planted or not. It's all down to what you want to believe.

I personally don't believe in anything, I am open to the idea that there's potentially many scenarios and who perpetrated 9/11. Believing is just being ignorant, it's like taking sides when two people agree to fight. Just tribal and it gets us nowhere. Facts, documents, evidence and science is what will ultimately decide the truth of 9/11.

Truth is, we will probably never know the truth. Arguing and getting riled up isn't helping anybody. Whoever did 9/11 needs to be bought to justice. In one way or another.

reply to post by swimmer


Many of the mods have their own opinions on the 9/11 attack.
They have been more than fair and balanced in moderating these discussions.
It is organised infiltration of ATS they are dealing with, and by more than one group too.
It behooves us to comply with the T&C very strictly in these sticky discussions.
Much relevant info gets buried through tactics described....
We intend to deny ignorance at every turn.
Including ignorant comments by people bent on inflamatory and divisive activity.

This thread is like a fly trap... just look at how many members that commented here are now banned for bad behavior elsewhere on the site. Thanks ATS management for keeping the sleazy-types at bay.

I dont know how much futher this can go .
On a normal thread it would read THREAD CLOSED..long before this.
Be civil and decent folks.

Originally posted by granpabobby
I dont know how much futher this can go .
On a normal thread it would read THREAD CLOSED..long before this.
Be civil and decent folks.

That ain't no kiddin'! As a previous poster stated, I'm sure every person in America has a different idea of what "really" happened that day. I know my own opinion has been swayed multiple directions, multiple times, by posters who bring really solid arguments and facts to the table. Then, in the way debate should go, other posters in the future, sometimes even in the same thread, bring other really good information and facts that sways me back another direction. The only facts about 9-11 that are indisputable, are that it was a horrendous and disgusting waste of human lives, those towers are gone, and most likely none of us will EVER know what really happened, down to the Honest to God's truth. Pray for the families. Pray for the victims. If you don't pray keep them in your hearts. No sense in turning this into a truther vs. ct'er matter...it's good to bring new ideas and information to the table, but it serves nobody when people start being hateful and rude.

reply to post by AboveTopSecret.com


Well done, This site is very professional and well looked after by its moderaters and members who have been here for 6,7,8,9 years.