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Phillips:60 Architects Support WTC7 Controlled Demolition Theory

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posted on May, 30 2007 @ 04:27 AM
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This came in via the Peter Phillips mailing this morning...

It´s a start!

Documentation at: www.ae911truth.org...



On Behalf of the People of the United States of America, the undersigned Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and affiliates hereby petition for, and demand, a truly independent investigation with subpoena power in order to uncover the full truth surrounding the events of 9/11/01 - specifically the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers and Building 7. We believe that there is sufficient doubt about the official story and therefore that the 9/11 investigation must be re-opened and must include a full inquiry into the possible use of explosives that may have been the actual cause behind the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers and WTC Building 7.

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

Architects (Degreed & Licensed) Architectural Professionals (Degreed)
Richard Gage, AIA, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA Scott Page, M. Arch / Designer
Berkeley, CA
Don Gibbons, Architect
Pleasant Hill, CA Jeffrey Tam, Architectural Professional
Oakland, CA
Jeff Arnold, Architect
Orinda, CA Oscar Cisnero, Architectural Professional
Antioch, CA
John Cole, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA Elwin Wong, Architectural Professional
Oakland, CA
David Crawford, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA Henri Tso, Architectural Professional
Walnut Creek, CA
Haluk Akol, Architect & Structural Engineer
Lafayette, CA Arthur Stopes, Planner
Berkeley, CA
John Eisenhart, Architect
San Diego, CA Ken Huthcinson, Architectural Professional
Eugene, OR
Joe Bellows, Architect
Martinez, CA Jan Leits, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
John Howland, Architect
Walnut Creek, CA Michael Reuter, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Eric Douglas, Architect
Howard Beach, NY Chris Jung, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Peter Hendrickson, Architect
Santa Rosa, CA Tim Clark, Architectural Professional
Albany, CA
Osvaldo Valdes, Architect
New York, NY Jason Wilkinson, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Lily Livingston, Architect
Oakland, CA Wendy Sitler, Designer
Berkeley, CA
Chris Swigert, Architect
Oakland, CA Dominique Roddier, phD, Naval Architect
Berkeley, CA
Jim Bedinghaus, Architect
St. Petersburg, Florida Karlene Gullone, Architectural Professional
San Francisco, CA
C. Bryan Phelps - AIA, Architect
Boulder, CO Dave Heller, Architectural Professional
Berkeley, CA
Christian Mungenast AIA, Architect
Arlington, MA Kurt Worthington, Urban Planner
San Francisco, CA
Engineers (Degreed & Licensed) Engineering Professionals (Degreed)
Ken Kious, Electrical Engineer
Walnut Creek, CA Gregg Brazel, BSCNE, Constr. Engr'g
Evanston, IL
J. Marx Ayres, PE, Mechanical Engineer
Santa Monica, CA Ted Muga, BSCE, Civil Engineer
San Diego, CA
Robert Nielson, PLS, Land Surveyor
Walnut Creek, CA Kevin Ryan, BS Chem., Certified Quality Engineer
Bloomington, IN
John F. Shanahan, PE, Electrical Engineer
Rancho Cucamonga, CA Ken Jenkins, BS Carnegie Melon, Electrical Engineer
San Rafael, CA
Joseph Testa, P.E., Civil Engineer
Thousand Oaks, CA John Shinn, phD., Chemical Engineer
Pleasant Hill, CA
John L Bursill, Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Avionics
Sydney, NSW John Rexroat, Mfr. Engineer
Walnut Creek, CA
Nazareth "Blue" Lansing, Engineer
Houston, TX Tony Szamboti, BS, Mechanical Engineering Professional
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Dr. Michael Voschine, PhD., Structural Engineer
Miami, Florida Doug Plumb, EE, Elecrical Engineering Professional
Toronto, ON
Rob Tamaki, M.A.Sc., P.Eng., Civil Engineer
Vancouver, BC Christopher Backus, BS, Mechanical Engineering
Redmond, WA
Jasper Tomlinson MA(Oxon) CEnv MCIWEM, Environmental and Water Resources Engineer
London Uk, London Jason Griffin, BS, Civil Engineer
Washington Dc,

Jay Easwaran, Ph.D. (Metallurgy & Materials Sci.), Metallurgical Engineer
Indianapolis, Indiana

John Sotelo, BSME, MD, Mechanical Engineer
Eureka, CA

S. Drake, Electrical Engineer
Bear, DE

Ron Wilson, Engineering Staff
Fort Worth, Texas

Crystal, Mechanical Engineer
Seattle, WA

David Gregg Ph.D., Chemical Engineer
Moraga, California

James Brooks, B. Civil Eng, University of Texas, Engineering Consultant
Austin, TX
Others and Students
Angelo Petraglia, B. Arch., Student
Jackson, NJ Ellis Goldberg BSEET, MBA, Marketing Engineering Consultant
Danville, CA
Mr. Roman Dulgarov, Student
Goose Creek, South Carolina Abhinav Dhaka, Student
New Delhi, Delhi
Sterling Weeks, Student
Irvine, CA Lloyd Hart, Construction Contractor
Oak Bluffs, MA
Peter Hinners, Realtor
Joliet, IL Dr P S Gill MD, Medical Doctor
Southampton, Hampshire
Matthew Naus, Teacher
Milwaukee, Wisconsin Jason Northrup, Computer Tech/IT Consultant
San Rafael, CA
Brooke Stiltner, IT Consultant/Student
San Francisco, CA max, jr
Bozeman, MT
Johan L Golibal, Engineer
Spain, The Future Robert S. Lynch, Structural Steel Detailer
Falls City, TX
Sam Christmas, Technical Support Analyst
Brighton, Uk, East Sussex Randy Caruso, Web Designer
Beacon, NY
Rita Hill, Software Engineer
Trinidad, CO John Mustanich, Mr.
Millbrae, CA
Justin Keogh, Physics Student
Tucson, AZ Brian Kausler, Student
La Grande, Oregon
Harrison Heitman, Student
Conyers, GA See Yang, Student
Maplewood, MN
Bill Donnelly, Computer Consultant
Chico, CA Gabriella Sankovich
Richmond, CA
Thomas Spellman, Urban Activist
Lake Geneva, WI Bruce A. Scherzer, Retired Power lineman
Bay City, Michigan

and by Active Participation

We cordially invite all Architects, Engineers, Interns and affiliates to JOIN US in this worthy patriotic cause. We welcome everyone who has an interest in contributing to the success of ongoing investigations into the WTC building collapses on 9/11. We want to hear about your interests, background, and what type of contribution you may be well-suited to make. Please let us know the kinds of activities that would appeal to you the most, such as forming/participating in a committee, local speaking arrangements, authoring statements, presenting lectures, appearing on radio, etc. in Section IV on the join form.

With our deepest appreciation,

Richard Gage, Architect



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 07:50 AM
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I'm on that list. See if you can find me. Hint: the way it pasted onto the page, my name is kind of mixed with another.

[edit on 5/30/2007 by Griff]



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 07:59 AM
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Hmm.. I just edited my previous post but the edits didn't show up? Anyway, here is my edit.

I recieved this e-mail this morning.


Dear Colleagues,

We are very pleased to announce the launching of our official website for Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth www.AE911Truth.org on Memorial Day! This site is dedicated to bringing forth the abundant evidence to Architects and Engineers of the "controlled demolition" on 9/11 of the 3 World Trade Center high-rise buildings — the Twin Towers and Building #7. Many do not know about this third sky-scraper — a 47 story building that was not hit by an airplane and yet "collapsed" into its own footprint with a smooth, symmetrical, free-fall speed, and with very clear evidence of explosives.

It is critical that all architects and engineers become aware of the facts of each of these "collapses" because they have the necessary technical and political credibility to force the discussion into the halls of Congress. Most of the A&E's that we show the AE911Truth.org multimedia presentation to sign our petition calling upon Congress to re-investigate these critical 9/11 matters because the truth is self-evident — but only when seen. All can see the evidence now on the new website.

You will soon be able to step through the PowerPoint multimedia presentation at your own pace, or currently choose to watch the videotaped presentation on-line. You can also follow the links to other excellent research sites on subjects such as explosive squibs visible at upper floors, 118 eyewitness accounts of explosions, FDNY reports of molten metal "flowing like lava", chemical evidence of thermate incendiary cutter charges, the fatally flawed FEMA & NIST reports, view the leaked architectural drawings of the WTC North Tower, etc.! In addition you'll find an extensive User Forum for technical discussions among members.

You can read our full press release here: Press Release

Welcome to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth!

Sincerely,

Richard Gage, AIA


Bolded parts by me. I have an issue with the absolutism way that the bolded parts are worded. Being Architects and Engineers, they should know better than to say something absolutely like that unless they ARE absolute. But, hopefully, they ARE absolute.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Griff
I'm on that list. See if you can find me. Hint: the way it pasted onto the page, my name is kind of mixed with another.

[edit on 5/30/2007 by Griff]


Ill take a wild stab.

Jason Griffin, BS, Civil Engineer
Washington Dc,

BTW Congrats for having the courage to stand up and find the truth.

[edit on 30-5-2007 by etshrtslr]



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by etshrtslr
Ill take a wild stab.

Jason Griffin, BS, Civil Engineer
Washington Dc,


Bingo. Now you all know my name.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:13 AM
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I browsed the forum earlier and have to say, I was a little disappointed with what I saw (maybe I didn't see enough). I had hoped and expected the discussion to be almost entirely factually based, and include lots of 'stuff' I didn't understand about the way buildings behave, energy calculations, etc, etc. Instead, it seems the nature of the debate is being dictated by the de-bunkers who have, for the most part, got people arguing about the motive. We have plenty of that here and elsewhere.

I hope this is simply because the board is new and the 'specialists' have yet to engage.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by coughymachine
I hope this is simply because the board is new and the 'specialists' have yet to engage.


I hope so also. I checked the site out yesterday and it still said "under construction". So, I'm not sure when it actually opened. I'm assumming sometime over night because I recieved that e-mail this morning when I got to work.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:24 AM
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Griff,

Can you tell us a little bit about what the group plans to do?

Are they going to release any sort of engineering analysis as to the collapse of the buildings?



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Griff I'm assumming sometime over night because I recieved that e-mail this morning when I got to work.

It's noteable then that the board is already swarming with de-bunkers.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 08:42 AM
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Interesting to follow this isn´t it? The debunkers as said are all over this, and this has not been out but for half a day....

Thanks for supporting this Griff, I admire you for doing so in the open..


Needless to say, if I were a structural engineer or an architect my name would be there too... Would anyone across the pond be interested in hearing this? I do have some relations over here who are in construction (and are acknowledged). I´ll pass this on...



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by etshrtslr
Griff,

Can you tell us a little bit about what the group plans to do?

Are they going to release any sort of engineering analysis as to the collapse of the buildings?


I'm not really sure. I haven't checked the site out since it has opened. I will when I get some time.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by coughymachine
It's noteable then that the board is already swarming with de-bunkers.


I caught that in your last post. Pray tell, who are the debunkers? Gravy, esdad, snoopy, Cameron Fox (Howard Roarke)? Do any of the debunkers have expertise in architecture or engineering? I guess I'll have to take a look see.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:27 AM
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I think the issue isn't exactly whether or not the debunkers have expertise, but that the people who supposedly do, are not using their knowledge to debate the WTC7 fall on the forums. It's just motive, not actual proof that it ever happened.

Of course, I'm going on what the poster said -- I've not personally looked.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:39 AM
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Griff,

Someone needs to contact the webmaster at the sight. Look at the list of supporters posted on the site. They are making a mockery of it.

Osama Bin Laden, Architect
Ny, NY

THIS SITE IS BULLS%*T, Structural Engineer
New York, New York

Paul Doherty, Licenced d*ckhead
Manchester, La la land
Alex Jones, LEET Structural Engineer
New York, New York
Dylan Avery, C*ck Master
C*ck City, New York
Rosie "Fat Lesbian Dragon" O'Donnell, Fat Lesbian Dragon Fire Breathing Whore
C*ck City, New York
Dear Architects and Engineers for Bulls%*t. Your w, Real Engineer
Tampa, Florida
www.ae911truth.org...


[edit on 30-5-2007 by etshrtslr]



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:40 AM
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Griff, have you heard of Paul Laffoley? Now a well-known New York artist and futurist, he was an architect who worked briefly for Emory Roth & Sons, designing floors 15-45 of the South Tower. He said in two interviews with Mike Hagan on his Radio Orbit show
kentroversypapers.blogspot.com...
that the WTC towers were designed for controlled demolition and that the twin towers were blown up. I would appreciate your comment.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by etshrtslr
Griff,

Someone needs to contact the webmaster at the sight. Look at the list of supporters posted on the site. They are making a mockery of it.


Well, usually when people have to resort to name calling, it means they have nothing left to debate with and have lost the debate.

To me, it's not a matter of winning or loosing for your side. It's a matter of finding the truth. If that truth leads me to the official version, then so be it. I don't find that kind of thinking with the "debunkers".

I'm registering for the forums right now. I'll stick with the name Griff so you guys know who I am.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by micpsi
that the WTC towers were designed for controlled demolition and that the twin towers were blown up. I would appreciate your comment.


Yes, I've heard of this before. Can you sum up how it was accomplished? I can't listen to things at work and am rarely on the comp at home (not because I don't want to but I need a life also).



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Griff

Well, usually when people have to resort to name calling, it means they have nothing left to debate with and have lost the debate.



I totally agree with you there. I am just trying to point out when you look at the list of supporters debunkers are filling it up with fictitious names as well as real people like bin laden.

Someone coming to the site for the first time and sees the list of supporters and you have Barney Rubble of Bedrock listed as engineer it takes away all credibility imo.

They need to be able to screen and verify who is signing up as a supporter.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by etshrtslr
Someone coming to the site for the first time and sees the list of supporters and you have Barney Rubble of Bedrock listed as engineer it takes away all credibility imo.

They need to be able to screen and verify who is signing up as a supporter.



Oh. I wasn't aware that they were actually adding those names to the list of members. Wow. How childish do debunkers need to be? I mean really.



posted on May, 30 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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I think that goes to show-on that site -Anyone can be whatever they want to be, without any credential checking at all.

I agree some of the juvenile additions are out of line.

I would have been more subtle.



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