Women to rule the Planet

Originally posted by Helig
The thing I wonder about most in all this is could a female ruler make those decisions that go against whole stereotyped nature of being this caring and compassionate person; could they order military actions that they know will create civilian casualties in the process? Could they order the tactical nuking of a nation that just attacked theirs with the same kinds of weapons or worse? Could they permit a person to be put to death by capital punishment when their pardon would free that person? Would they be able to order a hijacked airline shot down to prevent it being used as a weapon? I don't doubt the management abilities of women in the least bit, but I do question the abilities of them to make decisions that they know will cost the lives of people if they are these life-honoring and motherly creatures that everyone seems to believe.

As many others here have already said, its not about one sex being better than the other, neither really is perfect for the job of ruler and thats why cabinets comprised of many people from different backgrounds and likely being made up of members of both sexes have become quite popular around the world.

Which is exactly why it is a good idea to alllow the "feminine principal" to express itself, from both men and women. The feminine is very much suppressed in today's Western culture, in the U.S. especially.

I do believe that women tend to create life, and men tend to create war. There are, of course, always many who deviate from the norm. I'm not saying that creating war is a bad thing, sometimes it's quite necessary to protect one's self and family and I am very certain that overall, males are much better at providing protection than women; however, it is always best to try to nurture and give life, than to immediately go to a stance of WAR.

Perhaps if women ruled, nations would be less prone to immediately going to war, and more prone to trying to resolve differences through diplomacy.

[edit on 28/5/07 by forestlady]

Study the book of Genisis and the story of Adam and Eve as to why letting women rule is a BAD idea ....

Originally posted by Burginthorn
Study the book of Genisis and the story of Adam and Eve as to why letting women rule is a BAD idea ....

Well if that wasnt sexist...

Well, we're all individuals - some good, some not. Would "any" woman be better than "any" man at ruling the country? Ludicrous concept, no?

I certainly think we're severely limiting ourselves by not having a larger pool of viable females as an option for running things, either in the corporate or political arenas.

Anyone remember Jeane Kirkpatrick? I would've voted for her for president in a heartbeat. Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton, not so much.

And the argument that a female's monthly hormonal imbalances somehow makes her unfit to lead is not only highly insulting, it's ridiculous. A woman's cycles are no more detrimental than a man's testosterone induced "who's got the biggest willie" contests. The whole Iraq debacle is likely fueled as much by Bush's overcompensation as anything else. And we'd have been much less likely (probably, IMO) to be in this mess with a woman in the White House, regardless of who it was.

Originally posted by Burginthorn
Study the book of Genisis and the story of Adam and Eve as to why letting women rule is a BAD idea ....

...which is exactly why I don't believe in the Bible, much less use it as a moral compass.

Originally posted by Burginthorn
Study the book of Genisis and the story of Adam and Eve as to why letting women rule is a BAD idea ....

Yeah like thats a good argument.
I say go Bonobo.
Sex for everyone no war....
is that against the genesis model?

^ More sex, less war!

That's poetry quite frankly...I can live with that!
Hahahahaha

If women ruled the world there would be a war every 28 days and our economy would be based on shoes

^ LOL. Hahahahahaha...I had to laugh at that. It was small...but very funny!

To start off I am a woman. I have believed for a long time that it would be a great idea to have a woman in office running the country. But not just any woman, she would have to be the right woman. Not just any woman would be ok, just like not any man would be ok. There are bad women and good women, same as men, some are good and some are bad. To have a good leader we must know who we are voting for and look at their family history, that is what will tell us if they are a good leader or bad.

I understand what you where trying to say magicmushroom, women have been placed in the homes and kitchens for centuries by men. Only when men went to war the women were aloud to get out and get jobs to support the war efforts. At least that is how I understand it, I was not alive then

Even today where I work men are paid more money for doing the same job that I do with less experience than I. There is no lifting involved in this job, so strength is not an issue. It is a job where I have worked for 3 years and a boy comes in and gets paid more money starting pay than I make currently, I have a REAL problem with that. But a man runs this store, so what is a girl to do?

I hope one day all of that will change and people will be treated right, man or woman. It is called respect.

I heard this idea of women ruling the world ever since I was I child. My mother was a single mother-feminist and on a regular basis I heard how women were superior to men, men don't understand how to love or nurture they only know how to destroy. Etc, etc, etc.

And in my near 30 years of life I have realized that problems of the world are not caused by men ruling everything. It is caused by the corruption of power. And if any women thinks that just because she is of the female gender it automatically makes her above corruption you a sorely mistaken.

Like other have stated I would rather live in a society were gender, race and religion are not an issue.

On a side note, there something my feminist mother could never explain to me and maybe the members of ATS could. How do feminist make the world a better place when they have such a low view of men? Is that not what they are trying to stop men from doing to them ? I mean, thats like answering racism with racism. Pure idiocy

Im not being sexist here or anything like that in fact im a big fan of womens rights and them being treated equally, but if men are so stupid why is it that men have made all of the social and technological breakthroughs and advances in human society?

Just take notice of what Margaret Thatcher did to the UK, she brought us close to civil war.

No women, anywhere near power unless they are past the menopause, and even then only with a gun at their head.

NO MORE WAR!!!

.... Countries could just NAG each other into submission, then throw a big 'Pampered Chef" party!

Originally posted by DarkMile77

Like other have stated I would rather live in a society were gender, race and religion are not an issue.

On a side note, there something my feminist mother could never explain to me and maybe the members of ATS could. How do feminist make the world a better place when they have such a low view of men? Is that not what they are trying to stop men from doing to them ? I mean, thats like answering racism with racism. Pure idiocy

I agree. I dont think putting down all men is the way to get ahead. Not all men are bad in power..just like not ALL women would be good. But if you take a stereotypical Alpha male vs a Stereotypical nurturing female I think the female would handle situations better. But there are other types of people that dont follow stereotypes so there should not be a general ideology that men can protect a country with an iron fist while women women wouldnt know what to do during war or start killing people during that time of the month. Both views are sexist. I think the best thing is to educate people about sexism so that if a man and a woman are trying to get the same position their sex wouldnt matter only their political views. Then again that wouldnt be reality but more of a "we are the world" scenario....but we can still try

Magicmushroom,

You really are a work of art here. You do know that historically a mans willingness to work, take risks , and turn over a great portion of his production to a woman and children is one of the greatest adaptations among humans of all times ...right?? You do know this correct??

Do you for one minute think that women running things in this world will be willing to do the same for men ...work..take risks with their lives and for their moneys and then be willing as a career to turn over the bulk of their production to a man and children..while they come in second, third or further down the line in place and do this as a career??

As leaders and or rulers would women be willing to do this as a career..when they can by social roles get someone else to do this for them??

I wonder sometimes if you are thinking outside of public education...ie...television education.

Remember this ....there are a number of women out here willing to work. Even take risks for thier moneys..but not to do it for a man and his comforts and eases. At least not outside of a very definite social fabric or form. Think this through carefully.

Darkmile..the femminist movement has shot itself in the foot...having taken a very reactionary stance in thier early days to a total reversal on many of the issues they championed in those early days.
They have been found wanting after overlooking many issues/incidents they would crucified others for doing but letting it get a free pass in order to cultivate votes by the body politic. In otherwords they, like others, have been seduced by power.

Power is a very feminine principle..especially hidden occult power over others. This is a textbook political principle. Power over others..and it has always been feminine in nature...not masculine. The violence which accompanys this feminine principle has been very covered up. The essence of it in power is that you can get others to take risks for the body politic while remaining safe behind ones cloistered walls also put up and built by the risk taking of others.

This is the essence of the feminine in power...whether carried out by males or females...it is all feminine and also hidden concealed from the bulk of peoples not schooled in it.

The connection to women ruling is that this is also precisely how many women work...this is the essence of female socialization.It is also how politics works. I should not have to tell many of you about this essence....you should already know this.
Get someone else to take the risk when the going gets difficult. Dont get in there yourself and take risks with your physical being. Sit back and direct, criticize, condem, blame, etc etc...but when the goal is accomplished be among the first in to dole out the goodies.

Politics/power=feminine principle/feminine power

There is no difference. It just looks different socially but when you peel back the veneer it is the same. It takes some training to see it for what it actually is but once you get a handle on it you will spot it everywhere.

What most of you dont know about a economically developed nation like the United States is that women already have the control over where the market goes and the economics of it. Only the working male can be so dumb and stupid he doesnt get it. Hey ...how about those LA Lakers?? Was that a great game or what??

Women in this country determine how the great bulk of moneys are spent. Not the men...the men only earn the moneys. You can tell this by going to any car dealership..and asking what sex determines the bulk of the type of vehicles purchased in America?? This is a huge block of economic power. Do any of you think that women working are going to spend a career buying cars or homes for men??? Think this through carefully about the concept of equality and power.
Only a man can be naturally stupid enough to miss this angle on power and economics...because women are naturally smarter than this.

My point in this is that women in this power capacity currently enforce a dogma ...a religious economic dogma called "male expendability and disposability"
They are not going to reverse this trend in times of women ruling and in power...they will only amplify this.

I will also remind the readers that women in competition with other women for power, the appearence of power, goods and services, can be very viscious and cuthroat. Just as much if not more so than men. Men are more wont to give a woman the benifit of the doubt than would another woman. Nothing civilized about this conduct in women..at all!!
Are all women like this...no they are not but it is more prevalent than ever spoken about or written. Women naturally understand this about other women...most men havent a clue...which works out good for most of the women.
Do any of you think this dogma will fade out under the auspicies of political power??

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Do you folks actually think that women in power would somehow be immune from this dogma??

Darkmile,
Good and intresting post you have made here..thanks, I agree with most of it.

The point your femminist mother could never explain is partly the point I made above about actual conditions. You are never to have this information with which to view the world around you ..the femminist will not allow it and neither will a body politic stumping for the female vote. The dominant vote for which the body politic will be shilling along with their dupes...the media is the female vote...for the reasons stated above..women are by default the economic powerhouse in this nation. Therefore their vote is the important one ..not the male vote.
Watch for this trend carefully in the upcoming election. It was noticable in the last two elections.

This is not a symptom of a downtrodden, victimized group of people or gender. It is a con job done on both sexes to thier detriment. It is divide and conquer by the body politic and thier shills the media and public education.

The feminists have a very low view of themselves. Their standard technique is to use victimization and play through on emotional default settings. Unchallanged by truth or facts. This is entirely in accordance with the best political scams..default through. Victimization allows a group to politically put blame on others while playing through unchallanged. The Feminists are not the only group using this technique. There are others and it has become quite a popular technique. The feminists must find ways to foist this low view off on others in order to get the system to allow them to defaut through unchallanged. Watch for this fingerprint ..it is coming back for another round of defaulting through.

However some of the public are catching on to this fingerprint.
And one more thing Darkmile...you are correct when you describe conditions as answering racism with racism. Pretty much on the mark here.

Implied Chaos,
I dont necessarily think women would be better in jobs of power or other jobs. It is dependent on the character of the women. I know women I respect in thier professions and women I dont. Same for men.
It is a matter of character...some of us have it and some of us dont. It is that simple.

None the less..my point above stands..would women in positions of power be willing take risks for a man and children while the men explore their "options" from the womans career earnings. Are women willing to take on additional responsibilitys for men in like manner while they exercises power and authority.

Or will it be the same olde dogma.." you deserve it the others dont!!"

By the way...Implied Chaos..I get so tired of both women and men using "that time of the month " as an excuse or justification for defaulting through. It sickens me on the part of both sexes. When I have worked with women I dont want to hear that rubbish. From men either. You get on the job just like the rest of us and produce without excuses and defaults. I make no distinction for this. To do so would be sexist to me. No different to me than a guy coming in to work with a hangover and cant do thier job and wants special treatment. If you cant handle it go home or stay home.

Thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom

Orangetom, I must say. Your work is amusing...and, I know some people are gonna frown at this, but it's also right.

I will not say what I want to say, because you already said it. If I were to say it...it would be...much more...different.

The words I would use would probably be: generally, unfit & job. Some of you can make of that what you will.

I have noticed something, and this is takes place everywhere.
Women control...period! Men work! For what? Yes they should work for themselves. But most work for what? To live good? LOL

Most of a guy's time is set to please who? Himself? LOL
A woman's time? To please who? A man? LOL

Women may be physically weaker...and that's as far as it goes. The law largely caters to who? Men, children or women? Hmm...I think we all know the answer to that. Men, obviously. Wrong...women & children. And children of the female sex...well, that's another story all together.
Marriage. Marriage protects who legally? Men? LOL

The list can go on for quite some time. Most of the major things in life guard and benefit who mostly? Men & children? LOL
Even when they do not seem to be for the females...when you dig deeper into it...the truth is revealed.

I'm sure the ladies can agree that when men hate each other, it's nowhere near as vile as when women dislike each other. LOL
And that's just when they dislike each other. When the love...that's another thing all together...when they love...it's a beautiful thing. When they are at war...whether physically, emotionally, mentally...or dare I say it...socially...it's...well, it's just not very nice.

Tom...I can unsafely say I agree with you.

[edit on 26-6-2007 by sdrawkcab]

I think "Women in Charge" is a great idea!

But, I must insist on receiving a strict regimen of spankings and insults!

Well if I believe in people ruling each other or the planet I would agree.

However, I digress. A woman does not have any higher intellect or common sense than a man. A man does not have any more compassion than a woman. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. To have one side "rule" the other is a huge mistake.

Having men control Congress and the White House is a huge mistake. That does not mean a woman would do a better job running the place.

We need to work TOGETHER. Cooperation is the key, not domination.

All we need is some love.

While I understand your idea magic and the attempt to understand behind it, I do not think we'd be any better off.

Women make the same mistakes as men do. I don't think the average man or woman deserves to "rule" anything, not even their own children.

We desperately need a mass awakening...Starting with the government.


My point: There are sensitive men and insensitive women. Neither side has the perogative on this one. We each have our gifts and must use them accordingly.

We need to learn how to share .

Originally posted by biggie smalls
We all have our strengths and weaknesses. To have one side "rule" the other is a huge mistake.

Having men control Congress and the White House is a huge mistake. That does not mean a woman would do a better job running the place.

We need to work TOGETHER. Cooperation is the key, not domination.

Women make the same mistakes as men do. I don't think the average man or woman deserves to "rule" anything, not even their own children.

Couldn't have said it better. I just revisited this thread to express just what you said above.

Touche'