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posted on May, 28 2007 @ 07:05 PM
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Seer, there are plenty of people who want to know and those are the people who are listening. There are always going to be nonbelievers who feel the need to run their mouth because of their blindness and ignorance. Please don't let them run you away from ATS.



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 03:43 AM
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To all who are interested....
I simply wanted to tell people what I saw. However, the topic somehow switched to my gifts and how it all works. I have tried to explain how my gifts work, and although I know there are skeptics everywhere, I figured that on a site filled with so many outrageous claims and theories, that I could tell mine without being attacked and called an outright liar.

My gift is not one that comes on command. I never know when it will strike. If I think on something long enough, sometimes the answers will come to me.

Obviously, there are people who have never seen a UFO, and until they do, they will not believe and will call you a liar or crazy for saying that you have seen one. I have seen one, therefore I believe. Having said that, I must say, that what I saw, I believe was made by humans, and not aliens. I was not taken aboard the craft that I saw, and I was not probed, however, it was a life changing event. It let me know that just because I didn't believe they existed, didn't mean that they didn't exist. I have stood with the people down in Gulf Breeze Florida, watching the skies since then. I sat in fields alone at night looking up, and never saw one again. I have always had premonitions, no bull#, but did not have the premonition about the 'ants' implants and ramifications of it until I did see the UFO. Take it how you want. I've told you the message. My job is done.

I don't see how it is too hard for people to understand how it can and will happen. I have explained it in as simple of terms as I know how, at the risk of being blasted by all who read it. I am very sensitive. When barbs are thrown at me, my soul feels the sting. I only wished to warn. But because of my seeing it, I know that it will happen no matter what. I cannot stop it, but inform of it. But again, it doesn't matter. Much as what is being said about everything else in this forum doesn't matter. If no one believes it but you, then what? Why even tell it? No, I don't have tangible proof in my hands. But neither do you have the proof to refute it. Even when you are shown links and videos that show you that not only is it possible, but it has already started.

I am just sad, that people feel the need to blast me, when they have no idea of such things. I think I had a lot to offer in here. But it seems that more want me off of here, than want me on. So, I act accordingly. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 08:14 AM
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seesincloud, I hope that you don't feel that I have blasted you. This is a rough and tumble forum, despite all the staff can do. I have argued to "protect" myself many times. I remain because I can learn, and I refuse to yield to the loudmouth louts who take it upon themselves to rule the threads. But then, no one has ever thought of me as being very sensitive to criticism.

But if I have brought you grief, my apology. Yet, what am I to do, for I cannot feign acceptance when it is not in my heart. I have read all of your posts with interest, but.... as I have read all of the Bible, but.....

Still, for all my skepticism, I urge you to remain. You may be just the leavening we need. Your point of view, your warnings, are not without merit to everyone.

It takes many voices, in many ranges, to sing the song that is humanity.

[Edit by NGC for punctuation.]

[edit on 29-5-2007 by NGC2736]



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 09:55 AM
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Sees in Clouds, how does my statement "aliens trying to get inside the bodies of the human race using kinda technology or so" aligns with what you see?



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 10:29 AM
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Seer, if your going to make claims such as have, be prepared to take the heat.
I believe your abilities. We all have them, just some people tune in better than others.
What you are proposing, is I believe, in the works. It correlates with the bible, and will culminate in global disaster. Like you said, you are just revealing revelation as it happens. Happens to me too.
Dream from God?
I receive daily visions too. God is trying to warn us / prepare us. Great thread.



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by NGC2736

It takes many voices, in many ranges, to sing the song that is humanity.



I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. The more perspectives we have the privilege of being exposed to or immersed in, the broader our view of the world (and universe) we live in becomes.

It's my hope that you (SeesInClouds) will not let peoples' skepticism drive you away. I know how frustrating it can be, but if you truly believe your insights are worth sharing, then I say you have the right to do so without apprehension. Personally I believe you, but the broad spectrum of belief (and disbelief) present here is what makes ATS so diverse and rich. Nothing anyone here says can hurt you. They're just opinions and questions. I hope you'll stay.

If not though, then thank-you for sharing your insights with us, and good luck in whatever you do. I'm still glad you posted what you did, rather than nothing at all. For me personally, it was beneficial and a privilege to read.



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 10:51 AM
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Hey Ng...
I have not felt blasted by you. The questions that you asked provoked conversation, and I am ready and inspired by the questions that you asked. They inspired me TO look into my own allegations, and actually "see" for myself, by researching, how this could actually be more than just "in my head". I did not feel blasted by you, and actually, you are the one person who, you know at the bottom where it says "friend or foe"? You are on as my "friend". I don't shy away from "real" people with "real" questions. As I stated before, it inspires me.

The person who wrote saying to breakup my paragraph so he could read it? I took the advice, although I thought to myself and now you, that I thought that I was coming to a forum where people knew how to read, so I did not answer that person, but did break up my paragraphs so that he can read it. For this person, perhaps I should use smaller words, or perhaps maybe they should graduate the 10th grade before commenting on my grammar.

I invite and expect some criticism, but expect for the debate to come from adults, who know, and have experienced life, and other things. When kids try to blast me, I can only say, that they are but babes, and need to know about things in life before they can really comment on it.

As for non believers, how could they experience anything? My gift does involve, touching a certain frequency, that is fed by the minds of everyone on earth. How can they hear it, I ask, if they have chosen to turn it off? One has to be sensitive to the pain and suffering of others. One has to have lived. One has to experience. One has to give a sh1t, and really care.

Ng, I enjoy speaking to you. I have come back to the site, and see that I am able to ignore and actually block those that I feel try to hurt me. I have had this all my life, it is nothing new. I don't and never have asked for monetary gain for or from my gift. It doesn't tell me the winning lotto numbers. It actually never told me anything good. Well, I can't say that completely either, or I would be lying. There for a minute, it was just too many that seemed were completely shut off, and couldn't even open their minds for a moment.

Finally, I do enjoy this site, and some of the minds in it. Yours is one that welcome. Real questions. Real conversation among adults. Real inspiration. Ng, you and your discussions, are really welcome. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by zarzar
Sees in Clouds, how does my statement "aliens trying to get inside the bodies of the human race using kinda technology or so" aligns with what you see?


Hey Zarzar, Don't you see? This IS 'alien' technology. Back in the 70's there were 6 children in China who were able to peel an orange that was inside of a jar. What kind of technology was that? How was this possible. The powers that be, have been interested in the minds of such people. What do you think they have done with the intelligence they have obtained? How do you think that they planned to use it, even as they were still gleaning it? Why do YOU think that astronauts are 'debriefed' even before they can step off of the tarmac? Do you think that this info is something that they are gonna come on the news and tell you about? I think it aligns perfectly. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 11:06 AM
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AceWombat...
You are also tagged as a friend. I am back. I will not let the shut minds of others stop me from finding out the truth. Thanks for the encouragement. I do tire of it all sometimes. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 11:19 AM
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Hi Ace...
Keep your eyes open...you can't stop it from happening, but you can watch for it. They are. Don't forget that over half of the population will see all this as a good thing. Reminds me of a saying I heard from a great man long ago...Man will give up his rights in exchange for his safety in the world. We are doing that more and more every day. Some people need guidance. Some people need for the government to explain things to them in triplicate. Some people need a king. Even though they know the king may lop off their head next. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 12:21 PM
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Pilot...
Thanks so much for the links you sent. I am watching the first one right now. It is long. But very interesting as well. Thanks for your U2U. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 12:33 PM
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Sees in Clouds, I see your point very well, and I have read carefully what you explained. I think you are honest, since what you tell is overlapping well with what I know already. I am kinda happy to see that a lot of people are starting to awaken one by one.

As you mentioned the Chinese kids, I remembered something I read some years ago and now looked for it to share with you. You probably know the Falun Gong movement that is fiercely persecuted by the Chinese Communist Party. This is an interview with the spiritual leader of the movement made by the Time magazine during the start of the persecution in 1999. What made me big impression is the part (third page) in which he talks about the aliens. Anyway, the whole interview is quite interesting. Please, take a look at it and tell me what you think. Here is the link:
Interview with Li Hongzhi



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 01:03 PM
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zarzar...I think that for the most part, human beings are pretty basic. We want to be perfect, or did, and I believe that the governments have played a major role in the downfall of most civilizations. The government is a machine. A very well oiled one, with its own agenda. In order to acheive this agenda, many things have to happen. The decline of morality in our cities, is fueled by the government. They pretend to offer people in unfortunate situations help. Do you see how they have helped? What they have done, is gotten the world into such a state of decline, that the moral majority will accept all of the spilled blood as a necessary evil. And, being the fools that most of them are, fall right into their trap, and blindly follow. They have created an air of 'mob mentality'. And when they begin to exterminate the 'vermin', as I stated before, most will be 100% behind it. They will back it, kill for it, and die for this good thing. Once all the 'bad' people are gone, then the world will be a better place. Right? Well, don't forget that these 'bad seeds' are us! Our sons, our daughters, and anyone who doesn't go along with the 'plan'. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 01:32 PM
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Ok. I have just seen another persons thread on here, relating to c2c drones. What I found interesting, was the close up pics of the wings of this thing. I entered the info from the wings and came upon 2 very very interesting sites.

The first one, is this: prola.aps.org...

If you look at it and read it, it mentions something about a massive thirring machine. I entered thirring into search, and guess what pops up???

This! prola.aps.org...

Ok, see, there are alot of things going on here that the general population is so not privvy to. Here, they tell you

The Thirring Institute for Applied Gravitational Research was founded in 1995 as a private facility dedicated to the study of applied general relativity. It is our goal to bring people together for the purpose of investigation, discussion and research into the possibility of manipulating gravitational fields for engineering purposes.

This is big business. This is a very smart, very private think tank. They have made a machine, that 'in my opinion' does not have to adhere to the strict gravitational laws of the earth as we know them. Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 01:34 PM
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Sorry....I mean THIS!
thirring.org...



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 01:58 PM
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Which leads to this....

www.lerc.nasa.gov...-nasa



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 02:00 PM
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Sees in Clouds, it is a known truth that the big governments on our planet are puppets in the hands of evil stuff behind them. People mistakingly think that it is humans behind them, but tt is actually the alien beings that are doing that. And they are really corrupting everything in our world. Most of the people in the government are really not aware of what's going on. There is also a middle layer of people serving the aliens, infiltrated in the governments and different agencies. The 9/11 thing is their fault. The socialism in its nazi and communist forms are their inventings as well. Of course there is even more, but if I am going to continue a few people will accept it.

Sees, you mentioned the Chinese kids with the abilities. There are such kids all over the world. And there are people with even greater powers. So great that a few people will be able to accept it. So why this craziness continues? Why does nobody is stopping it? There are reasons. It is actually in the last stage of being dealt with and soon will be over. The good will certainly win.

Talking too much does not lead to anything good, and I already talked a lot. But since the public here is more open minded, I hope what I said won't look strange. Anyway it was good time to chat with you.

Do not think anything negative. All good people here: Success!



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 02:09 PM
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Zarzar, of course the good win. But see, they think that they are the good. They think that it will be a better world without gang violence, opposition from anyone, racism, hatred of any kind, murder, theft, all the laws that are mentioned in the 10 commandments. The thing that I want to get across, is that they have found a way to do it now. They CAN make the earth a safer place to live...Sees in Clouds



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 06:36 PM
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red is dead blue is bled



posted on May, 29 2007 @ 08:04 PM
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I agree that red=dead. The blue could just be for diseased, but I think more for still being checked out. When all are rounded up, they will be separated accordingly. They will be cleaning the city. This tells me that they have a war in sight to stop the taking over the cities by criminals. They are readying for battle as we speak.



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