"I Helped The U.S. Army Plan The 9/11 Attacks" (HOAX?)

Well, well, well. In case you still have high hopes that Timothy S. McNiven is for real, I’d advise you not to wait with baited breath to hear back from ‘him’. I didn’t waste my time reading the whole thread — got better things to do such as sleeping — but the very first sentence gives him away as a fake. Strassburg isn’t in Germany, it’s in France. So if ‘Timothy’ was a US army specialist there he would have known that. But perhaps he never left the barracks. Or maybe he ain’t the brightest crayon in the box. Or maybe he’s sitting somewhere in Tupelo, Mississippi making up stories. Who knows. But you Brits on ATS should have caught that — how’d that slip past you guys? Duke of Wellingtons you’re not.

Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods

I am impressed!

Anyways, amazing how easily it can be forgotten to put a lil-ol do-nuthin index.html file to protect an image subdirectory from a visitor getting a unix list of everything.

Was that ID card shown anywhere on the main site?

Just was wondering.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
You'd think that the DOD would be able to spell privledges right too. Or is that privileges? Oops?

Since no one has bothered to answer you yet, the correct spelling is privileges.

Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
[...] Strassburg isn’t in Germany, it’s in France [...]

EDIT (rephrased): There are similarly named areas in both countries. See the post directly following this one for a better description.

Since I'm just arriving in this thread, how long has the OP's site been down? It is inaccessible for me currently. Can any of you still reach it?

/tn.


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Originally posted by Wizard_In_The_Woods
Strassburg isn’t in Germany, it’s in France. So if ‘Timothy’ was a US army specialist there he would have known that. But perhaps he never left the barracks. Or maybe he ain’t the brightest crayon in the box. Or maybe he’s sitting somewhere in Tupelo, Mississippi making up stories. Who knows. But you Brits on ATS should have caught that — how’d that slip past you guys? Duke of Wellingtons you’re not.

Strassburg Kaserne, Germany

www.globalsecurity.org...

Strassburg Kaserne is home to the 40th Engineer Battalion. Strassburg is located adjacent to the village of Algenrodt, a part of the city of Idar-Oberstein. It is approximately seven miles from Nahbollenbach Army Depot. Troop billeting and housing area for military personnel and family members are found at Strassburg Kaserne. Today, the Strassburg Combined Club has replaced what once was an indoor riding hall; the Chapel was another such hall. The Veterinary facilities were converted to the Youth Activities Center. The Artillery troops left the Kaserne in 1940, when several units which provided infantry replacements took their place. In March 1945, the US Army occupied the Kaserne, utilizing it as a civilian internment camp. In July 1945, the Kaserne was turned over to the French Army and renamed Jeanne D'Arc (Joan of Arc) Kaserne. The French established an artillery school there. In 1951, the Kaserne returned to the American Army and was renamed Strassburg Kaserne. An extensive rehabilitation program for the Kaserne was completed in 1952, leaving the buildings as they now appear. In July 1995, the 6/29th Field Artillery unit relocated to CONUS. The community still serves as a home for many families who resides in its housing areas. Other facilities remaining include a Commissary, Child Development Center, and a mini-commissary and shoppette.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by greatlakes]

Originally posted by HooHaa

In his affidavit he claims he suggested using the plastic handled box cutters to get by metal detectors. Well I managed a hardware/lumber store in the 80's and don't recall seeing a plastic handled box cutter until early to mid 90's. I'm pretty sure no such animal existed in 1976. All we had was the metal handled retractable utility knives back then.

Good catch HooHaa,this is true.

Originally posted by greatlakes Strassburg Kaserne, Germany Strassburg Kaserne is home to the 40th Engineer Battalion. Strassburg is located adjacent to the village of Algenrodt, a part of the city of Idar-Oberstein.

Dear Greatlakes:

Thanks for the link. It shows that there is a caserne housing U. S. troops called “Strassburgkaserne” or Strassburg Kaserne. (The Germans prefer to link words together and spell it as one string.) However it isn’t located in the (famous) city of Strassburg (Strasbourg=French spelling). Strassburgkaserne is in Algenrodt, a part of the city of Idar-Oberstein, Germany. It seems our military calls this base simply “Strassburg” and omits the word “kaserne”. And that’s what led me to believe our ‘Timothy’ was talking about the city and not some fortification.

I was wrong for jumping to my conclusion and I apologize.

Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods

Post scriptum: I still find it misleading how Timothy talks about being in "Strassburg, Germany" (again, there is no city of Strassburg in Germany) as if it were a Stuttgart, Germany. Strassburg, France is one of the most famous cities in Europe.


[edit on 5/23/2007 by Wizard_In_The_Woods]

Couragous guy, but who needs convincing today..Lets see what we have so far on the Govt conspiracy theory. An Arab, previously reported dying in a ME hospital of kidney faiulre, from his cave in Afghan. shuts down the half trillion dollar US air defences with his laptop. He sends youngsters, one of whom couldnrt even solo a Cessa 172 with 600 hours in his log book, to fly like Top guns/airline training Captains These pilots knew that they would NOT be intercepted, and they knew the secret non radar corridor between US and Canada, where FAA and Norad are blind They boarded airlines without tickets boarding passes, or being seen on boarding cctv. CNN. After the action, at least half were still alive as reported by BBC. They planned almost impossible descents and impossble collisions into buildings without specific simulator practice. How much bank angle at that speed to hit the WT, how to cross the Pentagon lawn with your engines BELOW ground level but not touching the lawn Look into rense.com links for the 3 towers free falls, thermite , molten metal in basement after weeks, and hundreds of other anomalies. The one I really like is that They got over 100 samples of DNA from the bodies of the Penta airline vicrims, when DNA is destroyed at 100 degrees C. Yet we are told the airliner vapourised, after passing its 160 tons thru a ten foot hole, at 3500 degrees. Now you see why this brave guys story is not really needed. Mainstream polls say 42 % believe it was inside job. Mainstream never lies. Yeah..right. Call it 95 percent, with some dumb 5% ers who cant think or are too scared to think. Do you really think those on the inquiry and those who scream, otherwise believe the Govt conspiracy theory..Nah....

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Folks, I really don't care to read through this thread, I have better things to do. Anyways it should be common sense that anyone with a DOD badge or any other gov't badge for that matter would not have had their badge photo taken anywhere other than..hmm maybe a badging office that uses a white backgorund or some other single colored background.

OP's fake ID badge

Real DOD ID badge 1

Real DOD ID badge 2

I guess common sense isn't so common

Sporty


[edit on 23/5/2007 by SportyMB]

Yeah..right. Call it 95 percent, with soe dumb 5% who never think

Now now Thomas, no need for insults.Different folks have different beliefs.I really think the U.s. had prior knowledge of the attacks and did nothing to stop it.But that is besides the point.The thread is about Timothy's claims here.To me this all sounds bogus.But ,I would really love to hear a reply from the OP.Hopefully he'll post as promised.

Originally posted by ThomasT Call it 95 percent, with some dumb 5% ers who cant think or are too scared to think.

Dear ThomasT:

Actually, if anything, the reverse is true. 95% of the populace believes the official story. And less, probably much, much less than 5% believes in some sort of conspiracy.

Greetings,
The Wizard In The Woods

i posted this, before, eh?
i'm just not good at sexy thread titles.
codename grillfire

i met someone on his list of canadians he appealed to in letters. seemed like an authentic response, to me. (as in, that's how i think that person would respond)

This is why I love ATS in less then five pages McNiven story has been debunked as a very poor hoax. I would bet money that McNiven wont reply to Emails or answer members questions any time soon.

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As you can see I visited McNiven ATS profile.
I want to know why his last visit is listed as being in 1969 ?
For readability here is the original image .


[edit on 23-5-2007 by xpert11]

Not too sure about it (I have my own doubts) but forums have been known to have goofed join dates...

I was one born in 1957 on a forum I was on.. Seen people who joinged in 1979 on others, and all were fubs on the forum.. not user generated.

So, your post proves naught. But I've not read the entire thread... I may be shining a light on a darkness unworthy of it.. who knows..



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Badw0lf thanks for the reply there is probably just a glitch somewhere.
It is true that the incorrect joining date doesn't prove a hoax I was just wondering how the guys possible birth date could have been confused with the date he joined ATS.

What I am saying, crowpruitt, is that Timothys work is irrelevant with what is now known, and that being taken from mainstream media.

wizard in the woods, are you telling us that the mainstream media is in on this conspiracy, BBC stating more than half still alive, CNN that they were not on the pax list therfore no tickets and boarding passes etc.

That's your contribution? An attack on spelling? BTW, you spelled "endeavor" wrong.

So have you. It should be "endeavour".

Originally posted by Mogget

That's your contribution? An attack on spelling? BTW, you spelled "endeavor" wrong.

So have you. It should be "endeavour".

*looks at dictionary.com*

"endeavor" and "endeavour" are both correct.

[edit on 23-5-2007 by SonicInfinity]

Originally posted by Xfile
It becomes sadly clearer day by day that our governments being hijacked by increasingly ruthless people masquarading as our elected officials.The problem is where are the honest ones to replace the bad apples?

When we learn to govern ourself...then we will not need people to govern over us.
This is the falicy indeed - the idea that we need a system of 'control' or chaos would insue.

Well, as long as people act 'unconsciously' they will...by this I mean the vast majority of people do not 'choose' but rather act on impulse or by ego on their choices...therefore the current need for governments in the form they are in.

government only reflects mankinds mass consciousness...as long as we poloarize, nationalize, separate, etc. we will continue to have this game played out.

Cheers...

dAlen

anyone who bought into this crap is an idiot in my book anyway.