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Originally posted by Amenti
Just to clarify, I also think they exhibit attributes of the angelic not demonic although, I think there are both around with seperate distinct origins.
[edit on 17-5-2007 by Amenti]
Originally posted by Amenti
......he found that people were reporting that they were able to end these abductions by calling on the name and authority of Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by Amenti......when people are wide awake yet cant move, this is almost always accompanied by an "evil" or "demonic" presence felt and...
Originally posted by Amenti
We are being trained in all aspects of the media to belive whatever the aliens will tell us when they get here. what do you want to bet will tell us they seeded us, and to hate Christians, and that a one world government is a super idea.
Originally posted by bothered
Heard it all before, used to hear it a lot. The tie ins with terrestrial forms of domination and extraordinary circumstance is a lost one.
The only cover up now, seems to be the stagnation of DNA evidencing within certain circles. Search for "Scientists+DNA+Alien+extraterrestrial" and after a few crashes, read what you find.
Seems that those who cry for something apparent, apparently can't even see the "green" of the grass at their feet.
Originally posted by bothered
Nothing of divine, only what you choose not to see, or acknowledge.
Why I'd say, even if you saw it before your very eyes, countless times. Again and again. You'd quip it, quip it real good. "That's just a bit too much"!
Originally posted by Amenti
Just to clarify, I also think they exhibit attributes of the angelic not demonic although, I think there are both around with seperate distinct origins. but I didnt want to get into this because it just clouds up an already messy subject.
[edit on 17-5-2007 by Amenti]
Originally posted by Tattoo1377
I feel there are both also...
Duality is Universal, IMO...
Originally posted by kontol
Originally posted by bothered
Nothing of divine, only what you choose not to see, or acknowledge.
Why I'd say, even if you saw it before your very eyes, countless times. Again and again. You'd quip it, quip it real good. "That's just a bit too much"!
Sorry, see alien or jesus?
I never saw both.
Did you? Was it hallucination?
Originally posted by kontol
Originally posted by bothered
Nothing of divine, only what you choose not to see, or acknowledge.
Why I'd say, even if you saw it before your very eyes, countless times. Again and again. You'd quip it, quip it real good. "That's just a bit too much"!
Sorry, see alien or jesus?
I never saw both.
Did you? Was it hallucination?
Originally posted by x4nder
If you fully believe that calling Jesus will save you from your fears, when you are in a situation created by your subconcious, the rules of what you are yourself creating will substantiate your reality.
Therefore, if you believe that Jesus can be summoned, it probably does work...
Originally posted by kontol
Alright, calling the name and authority of Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck will do as well.
He was interviewing 250 christian abduction-victims!
He should try interviewing islam, hindhu, buddha victims and see what results he get.
The world is not just America, the world is not just christian.
Originally posted by bash the bishop
Originally posted by kontol
Alright, calling the name and authority of Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck will do as well.
He was interviewing 250 christian abduction-victims!
He should try interviewing islam, hindhu, buddha victims and see what results he get.
The world is not just America, the world is not just christian.
Absolutely right. I note many of the responses in ATS forums are christian views written by christians. The world is a bigger place than christianity! I have no faith or belief in a god entity as such.
I have suffered from sleep paralysis for decades and I never knew too much about it, until the wonders of the internet....I thought it was something that just happened. I think it needs more research, some medicos don't really seem to accept it as much more than a dream. For me it can happen during any sleep pattern or location. Although I can never remember getting it falling asleep in a chair!!
It can scare the excrement out of you I can tell you. I have thought for some years that sleep paralysis and other possibly similar conditions could be in part the answer to certain human experiential phenomena.
For example I note that some Alien and Demon encounters that occur when asleep seem similar to each other. When I have had S.P. on occasions I do feel something is there with me.
I can see that someones beliefs and imagination could construct a "reality" as the mind struggles to make sense of what is happening. As I have had no real belief in or want to meet a Demon or Alien I can honestly say that I have never thought that I have been "anally probed by greys" or "raped by a succubus".
Of course it could be, that what other people are reporting are actually different phenomena to my experience. I know there are other "weird" sleep experiences and some that I have had the paranormal forum would call "Out Of Body" experiences or suchlike. I just think it is the brain playing tricks. Like I say it needs more study..and the world has more pressing needs.
Originally posted by Amenti
There is a lot of this sentiment regarding this that the whole positive thoughts placebo thing. Well I am open to this, however, as you probably know most abductees do not have fun during their trips. they feel they are being tortured by these things. dont you think they have been asking all along "how do you stop this" dont you think these poor people being tormented against their will every night would be asking and deserately seeking a way to end it? If it were as simple as thinking positive and calling of the mental image of protection real or unreal then we should see some publications concerning this. Here are hundreds of cases claiming that they have (regardless of their current spiratual condition) ended what ufology says is un-endable by calling for help from Jesus. dont feel bad guys no one wants to hear this. I am putting this here so people going through this have some ammo next time those bastards come calling. You should really read through these cases to get a feel for whats happening here, aaccoa.org... the confidence in the individual concerning this has little to nothing to do with ending a particular abduction. however subsequent abductions do happen to those who do not close all the doors completely, yet they can still end the individual experiences everytime. you start to get a feeling that there is a legalality issue concerning this.