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Hubble Reveals Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter

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posted on May, 17 2007 @ 09:32 AM
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Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal

Originally posted by wu kung
Okay, I'm not a physicist, astronomer, or quantum theorist, just so you know.
But according to what I've been exposed to, when darkmatter normal matter collide, they create a void, an area of non-existence.


To make a long reply short: An area of non-existence doesn't exist.

[edit on 16-5-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]
Are we conflating dark matter and antimatter? Because antimatter is definitely not dark matter.



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 09:33 AM
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"5 billion light years would thus be 29,372,945,760,000,000,000,000 miles."

HELP Please. Is there a website where we can paste in large numbers
and get the numbers translated into words? My "average joe" vocabulary
isn't capable of SAYING the above number. Thanks In Advance for any
guidance with this. -cwm



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 10:10 AM
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Originally posted by Togetic
Are we conflating dark matter and antimatter? Because antimatter is definitely not dark matter.


Regardless of what is being conflated we can never have an area of non-existence



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by bothered

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
If you are trying to convince me or any one else that an area of non-existence Exists, then you have for gotten the very meanings and concepts of the words them selves.

An area of non-existence is an authentic oxymoron. Logically, philosophically, mathematically, and physically it is an impossibility.


Logically: Stop Gates
Philosophically: Non-points (of issue)
Mathematically: Null Sets
Physically: Vacuums, still places, eddies of non-current

There are many non points where it's said nothing exists. The most recognizable being zero as defined in the Null Set. It is, in essence, nothing: non-existence.


A still place is not non-existence for the simple fact that there is a place and a stillness to be measured. Space is called a vacuum, space is Existence, not non-existence. We travel in and through space every day, and we are space. An eddie of non-current is not an eddie at all.

The above definitions that you are alluding to are all explaining impossibilities. They are telling us that there can not be an area of non-existence, that is what I brought forth. They exist as expressions in mathematics, logic, philosophy, and physics, and those expressions tell us that nothing is an impossibility at being some thing.

No thing does not Exist as some thing, only as a thought-expression so that we may some what comprehend its no thingness.

How some one can claim that they are seeing "dark" matter, a thing they claim to be invisible is in and of its self a paradox and coming from a doctorial of ignoramus. If a thing is invisible it is purely never seen, thus it is nothing. Nothing is invisible because it is not Existing. We are not witnessing nothing matter in a closed system, that is impossible

[edit on 17-5-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Togetic
Are we conflating dark matter and antimatter? Because antimatter is definitely not dark matter.


Yes, you are quite right (I believe), I do get them confused at times.
Heh, like I said, I'm not a space scientist (I'm just a lowly nutrition major
)

I believe that my previous statement was describing antimatter (which I guess would be like regular matter except with a goatee
).
I'm going to have to re-read A Brief History of Time because there were a few concepts that I had a problem visualizing.
Thank you for the correction.





[edit on 5/17/2007 by wu kung]
damn quote boxes...

[edit on 5/17/2007 by wu kung]



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by carewemust
"5 billion light years would thus be 29,372,945,760,000,000,000,000 miles."

HELP Please. Is there a website where we can paste in large numbers
and get the numbers translated into words? My "average joe" vocabulary
isn't capable of SAYING the above number. Thanks In Advance for any
guidance with this. -cwm


There might be a website, but I can save you the trouble of typing it all in.

That's 29.37 sextillion miles.
Or, to a mathematician, 2.937x10 to the 28th miles.
Or, to an engineer, 29.37EE27 miles
Or, to a country boy from Missouri, "'Way the out there!"



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 05:50 PM
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I am glad this came up. My roommate and I were discussing about two weeks ago how the hubble was able to see light years away,it's ironic that this thread popped up and somewhat answered my question.



posted on May, 17 2007 @ 06:34 PM
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[edit on 17-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]



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