Hubble Reveals Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter

Here's a link to a graphical representation of the main theory, which I am somewhat familiar with, that explains compositional diversities, represented via pie chart:

en.wikipedia.org...

It's interesting that the photo they have is not diffused by similar material encountered during the transversing to here. I realize they sort of said it was an inference by gravitational affects, but I wouldn't have expected such a defined line to show through all the other encountered, like energies.

This should open up new constants (very important in theoretical work) on measurable inter-activity. I hope they don't drop this in the bucket__'See it once, tell you no more'.


[edit on 5/16/2007 by bothered]

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

Originally posted by iori_komei
Technically yours was first Kleverone.

Ah but should we really shed light on the young apprentice? He sees what he wants, always has.

Bravo, my boy. Perhaps I was just reading your thoughts... again.

AAC

Actually I just felt sorry for you! It seems that you have been a day late and a dollar short on you last several thread topics, just thought I would throw you a bone. Maybe next time

I'm seriously considering moving you off my friends list

Originally posted by mastermind77
go type in google video or youtube.com search bar

reverse engineered ufo

i found a video that may have been fake, but certainly big money and included some scientific realities pointing out things light anti-matter time folding-or warp drive, transporters, even bathrooms in the ufo. i want to believe mulder..i do. Anyway bmw is going to be releasing the disc vehicle
around the year 3057, though training will take about 3 years to fully understand the physics of time/dimension shifting and creating wormholes in a safe area and not arriving inside a planet or sun. And dark matter rocks btw. yes im high.

ROFLMAO

Just say no dude...

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
The scientific religion that is forming around us.

It's vexatious to see peoples claiming percentages of dark matter and "anti-matter" in the universe etc.

Its purely pseudointellectualism, and I don't mean lacking scholarly back ground, I mean lacking factual data and cerebral density on the means of any basis to make such absurd judgements and announcements.

NO ONE has ever "measured" the universe.

I must agree with this... the dark matter is just a THEORY but scientists act like it is for real (well, Electric Universe proponents think invisible dark matter do not exist at all - only in demented scientists minds)... this picture does not prove anything except the fact that we know very little about this Universe...

Originally posted by esecallum

if you look closely you can see other objects THRU the dark matter...

You cannot see Dark Matter, only its effect on light and gravity. So you should be able to see other objects THRU it.

also the dark patches give an impression of an explosion....

It was actually a collision

some parts of the glowing ring have shockwave artifacts on the inner edge of the circle...

like an uneven explosion..

You came to the your conclusions based on the evidence you just presented?

in their search for the non-existant dark matter astronomers are clutching at anything to backup their ludicrous theories....

And apparently the pseudo-scientist are here to offer much more detailed explanations of how these scientist are wrong because you think this looks like more like an explosion than a collision and that it can't be dark matter because we can see through it?

Hey man, next time you stop the presses make sure you have the scoop.

llook closely....

Nope, don't see it. sorry.

[edit on 16-5-2007 by kleverone]

Okay, I'm not a physicist, astronomer, or quantum theorist, just so you know.
But according to what I've been exposed to, when darkmatter normal matter collide, they create a void, an area of non-existence.
Theoretically speaking, I'm unsure that we have the instruments to measure such an event, let alone the mental capacity to even fathom it.

There are many phenomena out in space that we are as of yet unaware of.
We have such a limited understanding of the universe, and for us to quantify it in such limited terms, it does a tremendous injustice to it.

Oh yeah, check this out:
imgsrc.hubblesite.org...

It's called the Eye of God.

See?
So much stuff out there, it's mind boggling.

I have to say that there is very little about our universe that surprises me. It doesn't take a lot for a person to realize that there are still things in the ocean that we do not understand, so we could expect space to be much more mysterious.

Oh yeah, there's this:
www.exhibitsbuilder.com...

this:
www.exhibitsbuilder.com...

and this:
www.grantchronicles.com...

cool stuff

Those are some really cool images. It totally blows my mind and really makes you question what we truly understand and what we don't.
Great Images!

Thanx!
Yeah, I figured that you all would like them.

It's just that, this version of the universe is sooooo big.
Bigger than we are capable of comprehending.
And there is so much that we don't understand.
Besides not knowing how these things form, we have less than no clue about how these things maintain their structure.

Truly fascinating.

Yeah, learning new stuff is the best!

This just proves that I am right

One day we will just be chillin, when all of a sudden we will here reports of strange happenings in London, or somewhere like that. We will be far enough outside the original blast that we won't die immediately. We will get a few weeks, of torture, a few weeks of watching it on tv. Knowing that a black hole has developed of london, slowly sucking the earth in on it self. Scientist will suggest we will all be dead way before our bodies, because the hole is sucking all the oxygen too. Eventually our whole galaxy dies, is converted to their atomic level, sucked through a black hole and deposited into a new developing galaxy one thats only a few years old.

I don't think we have any clue what is happening in the universe, but we love to pretend like we do. That OP picture is definately a cool photo but I am not sure how anyone decides what is what just from looking at a photo.

Originally posted by wu kung
Okay, I'm not a physicist, astronomer, or quantum theorist, just so you know.
But according to what I've been exposed to, when darkmatter normal matter collide, they create a void, an area of non-existence.

To make a long reply short: An area of non-existence doesn't exist.

[edit on 16-5-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

Originally posted by shadow_soldier1975
...Brother and Lori...

Iori, not Lori.
eye-or-ee.

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
To make a long reply short: An area of non-existence doesn't exist.

This is what I mean by our limited comprehension.
There are workings to the universe that far exceed what we believe is possible.

I think i found another ring of dark matter...


...in my nephew's diaper!!!



Listen...this is a "dark circle" only. THere is no way to know what it is. It proves nothing (unless you are seeking proof that scientists are pretentious and presumptive).

It might be the beginning of a discovery...but right now it is just a really pretty picture with little more than a bunch of guessing added by a Ph. D.

Originally posted by wu kung
This is what I mean by our limited comprehension.
There are workings to the universe that far exceed what we believe is possible.

If you are trying to convince me or any one else that an area of non-existence Exists, then you have for gotten the very meanings and concepts of the words them selves.

An area of non-existence is an authentic oxymoron. Logically, philosophically, mathematically, and physically it is an impossibility.

The statement "I always lie" is a paradox, because if I am telling the truth about always lying, then it must now be false that I always lie.

You see, non-existence can not contain an "area" because to begin with... it never existed, never exists, and doesn't exist to fill any volume of space... and if it ever did exist... well it would no longer be non-existence

[edit on 17-5-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal

Originally posted by wu kung
This is what I mean by our limited comprehension.
There are workings to the universe that far exceed what we believe is possible.

If you are trying to convince me or any one else that an area of non-existence Exists, then you have for gotten the very meanings and concepts of the words them selves.

An area of non-existence is an authentic oxymoron. Logically, philosophically, mathematically, and physically it is an impossibility.

Logically: Stop Gates
Philosophically: Non-points (of issue)
Mathematically: Null Sets
Physically: Vacuums, still places, eddies of non-current

There are many non points where it's said nothing exists. The most recognizable being zero as defined in the Null Set. It is, in essence, nothing: non-existence.

Dark Matter, in my view, is a re-hashing of the Ether Theory. Where it was once defined to be the glue to explain why certain actions/reactions behaved unpredictably. The recent surge is filling in the hole left by Doppler scopes and the argument as to why some areas do not undergo specific accelerations due to collapse or expansion. There is some force not easily had.

Umm noticed something with the hubbel photo .
the dark matter ring is apx 5 billion light years away and in that photo you can see manny galaxes that of corse look small because of the distance involved in the viewing .
BUT the dark matter ring its self being 5 billion light years away would have to be millions of light years accross to look so large in compairson to the galaxes in the same photo . and stranger yet this ring sits in the middel of a nebula that is even larger and its all the light from the galaxes that are causing the nebula to glow revialing the dark ring.
so the total size of this is behond imangation .
Ps rember each of thous galaxes may have as manny as 300 billion stars
compair there sizes with the rings .
psss the ring is way way way out side our galaxe as our galaxe is only 120000 light years accross.

My main critique of the dark matter theory is that we don't seem to observe it close to home. One would expect, I imagine, to see its effects on a much smaller scale, such as the orbits of the planets or stars. It makes me wonder why it seems to be so prevalent throughout the rest of the universe when there seems to be very little observed in our own galaxy.

Still, very interesting article.