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Which Religion can save the world? Christanity,Islam,Judaism,Buddhism or something else?

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posted on May, 21 2007 @ 02:42 AM
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Situation today, and it will get worse with World War 3 soon. Then after millions die and people see no religion is helping, then they will accept New World Order.


I don't see people believing that religion is not helipng in any case. Even if there is a possibility,it is only that people's belief in religion will become even more reinforced. I think if your point is that people are gonna look out for New World Order,it's not gonna happen. Look at the history, people have not given up their religion for the fear of annihiliation. If that were the case,would we have had any jews around. WW III can be the end of the world as but definately not the end of the Religion.



posted on May, 21 2007 @ 02:57 AM
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People will be spritiual, yes, but not with Bible and Quran. Time of organized religions is running out. This won't be bad after all. Churches today are corrupted and not even close to real teachings of prophets, so no big deal if they go all to hell.



posted on May, 23 2007 @ 04:23 AM
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Time of organized religions is running out.


I have a different opinion. Infact,time for organized religion has just started. I feel the anti-organized religion feeling which was developing in people is fading away fast due to recent Christian-Islamic poles that have developed. There are lot many people who have started having faith in organized religion because they feel the comfort of being on the stronger side. I don't know whether it makes sense but yes,it definately gives mental peace. There are lot of people saying that WWIII would not be fought between countrie but between Civilizations. Which civilizations are we talking about? Is it not Christanity and Islam?

I think in the years to come religions will become much more organized.



posted on May, 23 2007 @ 04:36 AM
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Its not about Religion.
Its about love and respect for yourself, a creator and your neighbour

thats never gonna be a world norm....
not for a LONG LONG TIME.



posted on May, 24 2007 @ 08:57 PM
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Religion of all types, as well as every superstition from the beginning of time, from walking under a ladder to throwing split salt over your left shoulder has the same thing at its core.

The blame lies with a higher being.

"My obtuse actions have meaning if you'd only compare them to my God and agree"


There is no god, there is no superstitions. We are responsible for our own actions. There is no cosmic mummy whos' underskirt we can hide behind when we mess things up.

No one's going to clean our nappy, No one's going to burp us and say "carry on, you'll get it right eventually". No ones going to revert the Earth to day one if we mess it up too much.

If we don't eventually come to the realisation that our existence relies on us and us alone, then we're finished, and rightly so.

What we have now is all we have.



posted on May, 27 2007 @ 11:18 PM
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Hi everyone!

The word religion has a bad name nowadays,as the web has uncovered many of past "religious" lies and concocted history.

The word "religion"means re-ligare or re-join.....the Supreme Person,who has the most intelligence,and who is in complete control of everything.

This little planet Earth is just a litle speck of dust in the immensity of the universes...and still some humans think they are so important,know all and saviour of countries or the world,just because their mind tells them so...

God has had an infinite number of Names in history,as people described Him according to their intelligence and comprehension,so to say that one's favourite God is the only one is fanatism,and lead to conflicts and wars.

There is definitely on earth two kinds of people:those who are virtuous and those who prefer to stay in ignorance.
When the virtuous people are in command of administrating the world affairs,there results a peaceful world,devoid of injustice,cruelty to other entities and even bad weather!
When such power is in the hands of the ignorants,chaos is the result,thus bringing everything in danger and anxiety.

The history of mankind is a succession of bad and good leaders,and of a few who chose to concentrate on higher realms for destination.

The western world is plagued with a near complete brainwash,due to false "religions",that preach rather irreligion,thus turning this planet into a place of misery for the majority.

I believe that there are a few who have fully understood the perfection of God,by serving Him faithfully,and spreading His teachings,that will make the world a better place to live in,with the prospect of advancing to higher destination or the highest one:the abode of God Himself.



posted on May, 28 2007 @ 01:45 AM
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The western world is plagued with a near complete brainwash,due to false "religions",that preach rather irreligion,thus turning this planet into a place of misery for the majority.


Hi Govindas,

If you prefer to call the westerns religions as'false' what is your opinion about the religion of the Middle East. I think there can be no better example of brainwashing then that particular religion. I hope you know what you mean?



posted on May, 31 2007 @ 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by govindas
Hi everyone!

The word religion has a bad name nowadays,as the web has uncovered many of past "religious" lies and concocted history.

The word "religion"means re-ligare or re-join.....the Supreme Person,who has the most intelligence,and who is in complete control of everything.

This little planet Earth is just a litle speck of dust in the immensity of the universes...and still some humans think they are so important,know all and saviour of countries or the world,just because their mind tells them so...

God has had an infinite number of Names in history,as people described Him according to their intelligence and comprehension,so to say that one's favourite God is the only one is fanatism,and lead to conflicts and wars.

There is definitely on earth two kinds of people:those who are virtuous and those who prefer to stay in ignorance.
When the virtuous people are in command of administrating the world affairs,there results a peaceful world,devoid of injustice,cruelty to other entities and even bad weather!
When such power is in the hands of the ignorants,chaos is the result,thus bringing everything in danger and anxiety.

The history of mankind is a succession of bad and good leaders,and of a few who chose to concentrate on higher realms for destination.

The western world is plagued with a near complete brainwash,due to false "religions",that preach rather irreligion,thus turning this planet into a place of misery for the majority.

I believe that there are a few who have fully understood the perfection of God,by serving Him faithfully,and spreading His teachings,that will make the world a better place to live in,with the prospect of advancing to higher destination or the highest one:the abode of God Himself.




It's from that ideal that fascists get the idea that god has placed certain races of man as his favoured ubermench in the world, and why every religion thinks they've got the answer over another; when in reality, neither God or superiority exists.



posted on Jun, 1 2007 @ 04:43 AM
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It's from that ideal that fascists get the idea that god has placed certain races of man as his favoured ubermench in the world, and why every religion thinks they've got the answer over another; when in reality, neither God or superiority exists.


kegs - Even though I don't agree with what govindas has to say fully,but I think your this post is also not fully agreeable. Saying neither God exists nor superiority is a very bold statement.Care to back it up?



posted on Jun, 1 2007 @ 11:23 AM
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In all reality, there shouldn't be a world religion. Trying to enforce such a thing would just lead to war and destruction. What needs to happen is for the religions to learn to accept one another (yeah, I know it will never happen
). People should just accept that not everyone holds the same beliefs and that forcing people to convert to your religion will cause more harm that it will good.



posted on Jun, 1 2007 @ 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by AryanWatch

kegs - Even though I don't agree with what govindas has to say fully,but I think your this post is also not fully agreeable. Saying neither God exists nor superiority is a very bold statement.Care to back it up?


Superiority of one race over another is an invention of man, an idea with the express purpose of facilitating power and control of one group over another.

As it is with religion.

[edit on 1-6-2007 by kegs]



posted on Jun, 4 2007 @ 06:35 AM
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Superiority of one race over another is an invention of man, an idea with the express purpose of facilitating power and control of one group over another.


kegs - This is a truly brilliant post
. I completely agree with you. Mankind needed something to rein their basic instincts and they found refuge in religion.Slowly they started preaching superiority and found it a convinient tool to subdue other'inferiors'.



posted on Jun, 4 2007 @ 07:42 PM
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Right after all that Aryan Watch -here is the answer.

God is God;
Mankind either wants to make god in their own image or merely having gained a little bit of truth need/want to control the religion.

So we need to create a little bit of space for ourselves and understand that every current religion is not God but will have some of the truth.

Now I may loose you at this point but sorry our Aryan race did not recieve God's blessing inspite of Japheth being the first born of Noah. Instead Noah said Blessed be the God of Shem and May Japheth live in the tents of Shem.
Thus where-ever Shem is; that is where we can find the truth of true religion.
Then moving along down through the generations as Shems descendants filled most of the middle-east...along came Abraham who had many sons most of them being current Arabic tribes but it was the promised Issac who got the blessing (the Quran agrees that this is the case S37:113 even if you are hard pressed to find anyone in current Islam who will agree with what the Quran clearly states)
Therefore the name of the true God emerges; He is the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob.
Now Jacob (name means twister) was a devious fellow-kinda Jewish if you know what I mean- and he did all sorts of things rather than the more straight forward manly Esau who his father Issac prefered...but for some reason or other (Malachi 1:2) God loved Jacob and fought with him and gave him the blessing the name Israel.
The favourite son of Israel was Joseph and so the grandson of Joseph who was the younger of the two sons of Joseph Ephraim then got the blessing of the firstborn.
But all of Israels sons got blessings even if reading them you are hard put to see what is good about what their father said abouth them Gen 49.
But with 400 years in Egypt from the time when Abraham first visted the place finally all the gods of Egypt including the most powerful one- death were defeated by the blood of the lamb and Israel was on it's way with Moses and The Law to the land promised to them.

Now at this point if I haven't lost you I will loose you now!

In order to gain the land Israel had to kill the people in that land.
God is a God of justice and holieness in addition to love and mercy and so when entire peoples are wiped out (as the Quran is able to tell us) it is the justice and judgement of God at work
Therefore at this point- Christianity as a religion falls by the wayside for two reasons.
God has never renounced or taken back his blessing on Shem Abraham or Issac or Israel (or Ephraim) instead as Moses said would happen God's peoples have been scattered among the nations but now just as God said they would they are returning again to their land in the middle east.
Both Christianity and Islam are therefore cults of the base religion.
They attempt to take over and usurp (S6:115/156) what god has never taken away from Israel.
And Christianity hasn't comprehended how seriously God hates sin.

To conclude them. True religion blessed by God is often assocaited with the judgements of God and in those judgements entire nations and peoples can and do get wiped out. If you have any problems with this I suggest you take this up with a Holy and Just God.
Israel (that is Jewish relgion and Ephraim when he wakes up and also decides to return home) is the center of God's will and blessing.
Christianity has tried hard to get there but is not the final answer.
Islam has tried hard to get ther but is not the final answer.

Now this Jesus of Nazareth- the would be King of Jerusalem who got crucified by the Romans 2,000 years ago...what about him ?
Well (John 4) he said speaking to a Palestinian woman he said "Salvation is from the Jews"
Thus i suppose... we may as well get on with it and learn Hebrew
PS on the Lamb of God thing (a lamb given to Abraham) the prophet John (Yuhan in the Quran the one who confirms God's word) said
Look the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world when Jesus turned up



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 12:01 AM
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What about Buddism

Well a famous Jewish Rabbi warned about something he called doctrines of demons and listed their charateristics (this was before anyone had ever heard of Buddism) prohibiting the eating of meat prohibiting marriage and so on.
But there is philiosophically a definate difference between East ans West and i have seen this even within westernised christianity in China.

In the west people are convinced of absolutes (or rather used to; things are changing) and strightline history prevails.
In the middle east we are actually at the fracture point between east and west and moving east we get into circle thinking no beginning and no end.
And tha amazing thing is that Jewish based religions and the God of those religions can cope with these differences even if Western Christianity as a western religion is flat footed.
However before we all float off into no righ nor any wrong relativity the key to philospophy flowing out of the jewish relgion is this;

God is an absolute.
God as creator is outside of the creation and not part of it;

Now that may be a bit simple and a bit blunt (I am a westerner) but compared (and I urge you to read the learned works comparing Chinese classics with Greek classics coming out of the East West school of Hawaii University) with go nowhere chinese culture having a starting point is always good when developing such things as science and when comparing things.... if you know what i mean....
so meditae pray but makes sure it is to a real God-the absolute God rather than to some deceptive demon.

the trick for finding out if the spiritual authority is a demon is this;
If it will not accept that Jesus of Nazareth is a man....
And likewise if it will not accept Jesus is God.....
Why ? because as a perfect son of Adam (whose geneology is in the bible) you can tell a demon where to go and heal people and raise the dead in his name; so wouldn't any intelligent demon want to denie Him. paul



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 10:36 AM
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Which Religion can save the world? Christanity,Islam,Judaism,Buddhism or something else?


NOT EVEN CHRISTIANITY . . . AS A RELIGION . . . can save anyone, much less the world.

CHRIST--THE ONLY RESURRECTION VERIFIED ALMIGHTY GOD-MAN can save by His Sacrificial servant-hearted Blood sacrifice. THAT REQUIRES ACCEPTANCE of His Blood Sacrifice and an ongoing RELATIONSHIP with Him for personal Salvation.

IN terms of the planet . . . Salvation of the planet is evidently scheduled for our era. The prophetic clock began racing ahead in a list of ways when Israel became a Nation again in 1948--as Biblically predicted. 100's upon 100's of Biblical prophetic data points have been fulfilled since then toward many dozens of specific outcomes.

It was also predicted that Israel would again use Hebrew--essentially a dead language--as it's national language--which had NEVER been done by any people dispersed so widely.

1. Now, as Biblically predicted, Jerusalem is a heavy troublesome weight around the neck of the whole world. Russia, Iran, China, Syria, etc. are allied together toward the destruction of Israel.

2. The tyrannical world government predicted to be in the era when Israel became a nation again in a day (1948) is looming--on the brink and already much in power under the table.

3. The Mark of the Beast ID/LOCATOR/CREDIT-DEBIT-CARD/CHIP IMPLANT is already inserted in a number of folks around the world--including all the senior Mexican administrators.

4. INFORMATION/KNOWLEDGE is vastly increased and spread far and wide over the planet as Biblically predicted for this END TIMES era.

5. TRAVEL is RAPID and spread far and wide routinely over the planet as Biblically predicted.

. . .

The salvation of the planet is scheduled . . . after Armageddon--when Christ conquers all forces of evil and rules all creation from the New Jerusalem--coming down out of Heaven--a Pyramid or cube 1,500 miles on a side.

The globalist NWO puppet masters have been convinced by satan and his "ET" cohorts that satan will win at Armageddon. Satan knows better but it serves his destructive purposes to seduce power greedy humans of that deception.

There will NOT be an earth saved from evil to allow individuals to do whatever they wish in rebellion against God Almighty. His Perfection will again reign on earth as at the Garden. AS Scripture says . . . choose this day, whom you will serve. Your own fleshy hedonistic temporary pleasures for a moment; your own egotistical demands and insecurities . . . or God Almighty.

There are not a lot of choices.

One can rant, pontificate, blame, rationalize, justify . . . But Almighty God is still THE BOSS. At some point, His law will reign.

Choose. Just recognize that the choice is for all eternity.

The planet will be saved. Will you be saved with it or isolated from the Perfection as a dangerous infection?



posted on Jun, 5 2007 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
NOT EVEN CHRISTIANITY . . . AS A RELIGION . . . can save anyone, much less the world.

CHRIST--THE ONLY RESURRECTION VERIFIED ALMIGHTY GOD-MAN can save by His Sacrificial servant-hearted Blood sacrifice. THAT REQUIRES ACCEPTANCE of His Blood Sacrifice and an ongoing RELATIONSHIP with Him for personal Salvation.

IN terms of the planet . . . Salvation of the planet is evidently scheduled for our era. The prophetic clock began racing ahead in a list of ways when Israel became a Nation again in 1948--as Biblically predicted. 100's upon 100's of Biblical prophetic data points have been fulfilled since then toward many dozens of specific outcomes.

It was also predicted that Israel would again use Hebrew--essentially a dead language--as it's national language--which had NEVER been done by any people dispersed so widely.
. . .
The salvation of the planet is scheduled . . . after Armageddon--when Christ conquers all forces of evil and rules all creation from the New Jerusalem--coming down out of Heaven--a Pyramid or cube 1,500 miles on a side.


Garbage like this is why the world is so screwed up. People go around saying they have 'proof' that the world is coming to end within the next... whenever. Christians have been spewing armageddon propaganda since Christianity became a religion, yet we're still here. Everything that happens can be attributed to the oncoming apocalypse if that is all a person is thinking about. All you are doing is using scare tactics to try to convert people to your religion. If people cared less about the beliefs of others and more about the actual problems with this world, this world might be a much nicer place to live in.

[edit on 5-6-2007 by Saturn]

[edit on 5-6-2007 by Saturn]



posted on Jun, 6 2007 @ 12:32 AM
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Garbage like this is why the world is so screwed up.


Wrong. Flawed assumptions. Flawed research. Flawed reality testing re history. Flawed understanding of the impacts of Christianity over the centuries. Wrong, wrong, wrong.



People go around saying they have 'proof' that the world is coming to end within the next... whenever. . . . yet we're still here.


I don't know of any authentic Christians with anything close to a solid, balanced, Holy Spirit led understanding of Scripture who are even remotely close to date setters. All kinds of people exist in all kinds of groups. Christianity has more than it's share of flakes from time to time.

But the Biblical prophecies are solid and have come true in incremental data points 100's of times since Israel became a nation in a day in 1948 as Biblically predicted. In prior years, maybe 3-4 issues sort of partially, maybe looked a little bit like perhaps they were leaning in the vague direction of the END OF THE WORLD. That's it. Better research would perhaps have afforded a more accurate view of this history vis a vis such assumptions and those believing in them.



All you are doing is using scare tactics to try to convert people to your religion.


Not really--though I'd be happy if that happened. I'm mostly trying to state the basic truths as I see them; to offer the other minority perspective. The tide of hogwash hereon regarding such topics seems to chronically stay at Tsunami levels. And, things ARE going to get plenty scary as the NWO folks rachet things up to their global tyranny government. The Bible says it will be worse than the world has EVER seen AND WORSE than the world EVER WILL SEE again. But, hey, if that's a Sunday picnic to you, don't let me spoil your fun.

On the other hand, you have been warned.



If people cared less about the beliefs of others and more about the actual problems with this world, this world might be a much nicer place to live in.


I find this the MOST outrageous, clueless, unhistorical, uninformed statement of that whole perspective.

The author is clearly out of touch with a vast amount of research on INTRINSIC VS EXTRINSIC RELIGIOSITY and the implications over the centuries of same. I hope to post some data on it within the next week or two. The ignorance of the basic research and historical facts on this website is shocking. On the other hand, given the NWO death grip on media, entertainment and universities for the last 50 years . . . I guess such ignorance should be expected.



posted on Jun, 7 2007 @ 09:46 PM
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And this folks, is why it's bad to feed children mythology.



posted on Jun, 8 2007 @ 12:01 PM
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I don't know of any authentic Christians with anything close to a solid, balanced, Holy Spirit led understanding of Scripture who are even remotely close to date setters. All kinds of people exist in all kinds of groups. Christianity has more than it's share of flakes from time to time.

But the Biblical prophecies are solid and have come true in incremental data points 100's of times since Israel became a nation in a day in 1948 as Biblically predicted. In prior years, maybe 3-4 issues sort of partially, maybe looked a little bit like perhaps they were leaning in the vague direction of the END OF THE WORLD. That's it. Better research would perhaps have afforded a more accurate view of this history vis a vis such assumptions and those believing in them.


Okay. What if I told you that I had proof that the decrease of pirates over the years has lead to the increase of global warming. I could even get you a graph for this, or you could just go to the pastafarian website.
. But seriously, you couldn't prove that theory incorrect any more than I could prove any of your theories incorrect.



I find this the MOST outrageous, clueless, unhistorical, uninformed statement of that whole perspective.


That's a little rude don't you think? I have no problem with religions in and of themselves. Besides, they were all really just created by guys who wanted to worship god, but instead ended up being worshipped as gods (Jesus, Muhammed, Buddah). Most religions were created to be peaceful, but over the years have evolved (or perhaps I should say devolved) into preachers spewing fire and brimstone sermons and saying that anyone who refuses to believe that their god is the ruler of all should burn in the lake of fire for all eternity. That is what I have against religions. They are concerned so much about the souls of others, that they don't bother looking after the well-being of their own. Also, I really don't see how you could say that what I said was unhistorical. That just makes no sense, especially when you take into account the crusades, the salem witch trials, the attack of the Twin Towers, Kamikaze pilots of WW2, and lots of other random examples. All of these things happened b/c people were brainwashed by their leaders into believing that god (whichever god they worship) was behind what they were doing and that they would go to heaven in the end.



posted on Jun, 8 2007 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by AryanWatch



I have a different opinion. Infact,time for organized religion has just started. I feel the anti-organized religion feeling which was developing in people is fading away fast due to recent Christian-Islamic poles that have developed.
I think in the years to come religions will become much more organized.


If anything, that has just increased the anti-religious sentiment. People realize this war on terrorism for what it is, another crusade by the Muslims and Christians to try and regain the foothold they once had in the world. It ultimately will not work. People will be spiritual, but not religious in the future.



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