Video Surfaces Showing Kurdish Girl Stoned to Death for Relationship With Iraqi Sunni Boy

Originally posted by DJMessiah
Most of the anti-Islam posts were made on ignorance, and I say this because those who posted something against Islam in this thread didn't even bother to understand that it was a Muslim woman who was stoned, by people of another faith, because she converted to Islam and dated a Muslim boy.

[edit on 10-5-2007 by DJMessiah]

Well, that's true. I just started posting ASSUMING, and we all know what happens when one assumes, that they were Muslim. While the definition is somewhat vague as to what Yazidis are, they are not exclusively Muslim, but they apparently do follow some Muslim tenets in their faith.

The definition said that they follow Zoroastrianism,some form of Christianity and Islam.

Originally posted by shrunkensimon
This thread is just another place for people to come and shout how barbaric Islam is, and throwing in the line about how they are "the religion of peace". Get over yourselves, do i really need to list the crimes that the USA and UK have commited in the last 200 years?

The US and UK are far from perfect.. However this thread isnt about the US or the UK. Im sure if you use the search function you can find a trillion threads pertaining to such subjects. This thread is about the brutal killing of a young girl who was murdered because she was seeing a muslim boy. A mob of ppl ripped apart her clothes and started brutally beating her with stones... Now, would the american government or UK government for that matter condone such acts? Not in your life sport.

Originally posted by Dissension
I can see why Saddam gassed these bastards. What a worthless group of people. They should all be removed from society and not allowed to spread their seed; publicly casterated, impaled and left to rot. I can't think of a punishment sick enough for these zealots.

I admit this was wrong and you wait just a minute. This is way over the top and no one deserves a fate as you described above. Have you lost your mind? I'm sorry but this is another thing that upsets me to no end, that anyone can speak in a manner so vile as such as this against another human being.

*YAWN. I'm sorry for offending you Leyla.

Originally posted by Dissension
I can see why Saddam gassed these bastards. What a worthless group of people. They should all be removed from society and not allowed to spread their seed; publicly casterated, impaled and left to rot. I can't think of a punishment sick enough for these zealots.

You say that as if you think that the people Saddam represented are any better. Trust me, they are not.

[edit on 14-5-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

No I don't. I think that they are equally worthless. Call me closed minded, but I just don't see any use for groups of people like that. They are the filfth and disease of humanity and should be removed from society and destroyed.

Originally posted by Dissension...They are the filfth and disease of humanity and should be removed from society and destroyed.

And in the process of this eradication the conditions which originally brought about their existence will be augmented thus providing more of the same stock.

You can't outsmart the Devil. He stacks his odds against you. The only way to win is by certain death with a small chance of success.

What's really disgusting is the lack of perspective on this thread. It's interesting how individual acts of violence can be so powerful in our minds and bring up such hatred and malign intent, and yet the death of 100,000+ Iraqi civilians, who's death videos we don't see, are stowed safely away in the back of our minds in a little bubble called "national security". Right.
It's not only "Them" doing the stoning, we've all done it through the generations. The only difference is that now, we have missiles, mines, tanks and chemical weapons and they're still stuck with sticks and stones.

Originally posted by angst18 It's interesting how individual acts of violence can be so powerful in our minds and bring up such hatred and malign intent, and yet the death of 100,000+ Iraqi civilians, who's death videos we don't see, are stowed safely away in the back of our minds...

I think, if I recall, it was Stalin that said this very same thing. Not about videos, or Iraq, or in the same context, but essentially the same message.

Aye, that is seeing into the heart of darkness!

Edit to add mentioned quote:

"The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic."

-Joseph Stalin

[edit on 5/15/2007 by Matyas]

Don't know if its been mentioned before on this thread (only read first couple and last pages)

But for those of you who say this dosen't happen in UK/USA are wrong, I reckon there is at least 1 'honnor killing' per month reported in the media, that says nothing about the violence behind closed doors. I don't care about religon when it comes to this topic, it's just plain wrong, a worthless waste of life.

For those of you not in the UK you may not be aware of the latest 17 year old girl killed for twisted ideals. she was pregnant, does that count as 2 murders? thats one for another thread i reckon.

Not to mention the killings of gay men and women like that of Matthew Shepard. Or the systematic and State supported lynching of black men in the South only a few decades ago.

UPDATE.

Four arrested in Iraq 'honor killing'

BAGHDAD, IRAQ (CNN) -- Authorities in northern Iraq have arrested four people in connection with the "honor killing" last month of a Kurdish teen -- a startling, morbid pummeling caught on a mobile phone video camera and broadcast around the world.

Authorities believe she was killed for being seen with a Sunni Muslim man. She had not married him or converted, but her attackers believed she had, a top official in Nineveh province said. The Yazidis, who observe an ancient Middle Eastern religion, look down on mixing with people of another faith.

I never watched the video, didnt feel the need to, at least they did something about it.

I do not understand their actions, they do it in the name of their religion...

Link.

[edit on 19-5-2007 by Denied]

Completey and absolutely horrible! What horror the poor girl felt! There is absolutely NO justification for this, and the ANIMALS involved were murderer's!

i watched to the part where the bloods starts to flow...

i just couldn't take it.

RIP to the girl.

This shows us how blind faith can turn humans into devils.

vicariously we stand back and bitch but realisticly what can we do as individuals, i look around and see such atrocities and ask myself, what is the purpose of bitching and discussing if nothing productive comes from it. am i just feeding off such death and despair just to feed. i think this qoute from the movie waking life can sum up a part of this thought process


"

(Main character walking down the street with a man who is holding a can of gasoline).

Self-destructive man feels completely alienated, utterly alone. He's an outsider to the human community. He thinks to himself, "I must be insane." What he fails to realize is that society has, just as he does, a vested interest in considerable losses, in catastrophes. These wars, famines, floods and quakes meet well defined needs. Man wants chaos. In fact, he's got to have it. Depressions, strife, riots, murder, all this dread. We're irresistibly drawn to that almost orgiastic state created out of death and destruction. It's in all of us. We revel in it. Sure, the media tries to put a sad face on these things, painting them up as great human tragedies, but we all know the function of the media has never been to eliminate the evils of the world. No! Their job is to persuade us to accept those evils and get used to living with them. The powers that be want us to be passive observers. You got a match? And they haven't given us any other options outside the occasional purely symbolic participatory act of voting. You want the puppet on the right or the puppet on the left? I feel the time has come to project my own inadequacies and dissatisfactions into the socio-political and scientific schemes. Let my own lack of a voice be heard.

(He pours gasoline all over himself and lights himself on fire.)"


the real question is, what can i/you do to change these things and how

Originally posted by Mindash:

vicariously we stand back and bitch but realisticly what can we do as individuals, i look around and see such atrocities and ask myself, what is the purpose of bitching and discussing if nothing productive comes from it. am i just feeding off such death and despair just to feed. i think this qoute from the movie waking life can sum up a part of this thought process

I completely agree Mindash. However, what do you propose we do about it? Is there anything we can realistically do to help?

It seems to me all we can really do is clean up our own backyard, so to speak. That is, to just deal with what we can here nationally or locally to fight the kind of "groupthink" that took place here, regardless of religious/cultural affiliations and beliefs.

horrifying video showing a 17-year-old Kurdish girl being stoned to death for having a relationship with a Sunni Muslim boy has made its way onto the Web, drawing outrage and condemnation from international human rights groups.

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BS. Many animals will eat their own young when survival calls for it. But then, we are not animals, or are we?

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We want to feel so far above this kind of violence, but the truth is that it exists in even the most ‘advanced’ cultures. How long ago was the last lynching in the USA? The last political assassination? Does not torture occur every day courtesy of the USA gov? Go ahead and lord it over these poor savages if it makes you feel better, but the truth is that YOU are responsible for much greater slaughter through your silence and apathy.

I watched it once and I never want to watch it again.

I can't understand some replies where people state that 'we don't understand their religion, culture or customs' in an attempt to partially justify those involved...

Crap.

They have no culture or customs, if they kill their own like that. Recognise it for the evil that it is. NOTHING can justify the scenes on that video. Nothing.

That was one of the most demoralising videoclips that I have ever watched and it makes me angry.

Someone remind me that we're supposedly living in a 'civilised' age in 2008 and not the stone ages???

Originally posted by joecoolsvette
Completey and absolutely horrible! What horror the poor girl felt! There is absolutely NO justification for this, and the ANIMALS involved were murderer's!

Now why would you want to insult the animal kingdom by comparing those savages to them? those vermin are still wiping their butts with bare hands and you think they are worthy of being called "animals"

Anyone or any religion that performs or believes that an honor killing is justified is lower than an animal, they are lower than an insect crawling through sewage.