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4th Generation MicroNukes Used on WTC1,2 and 7
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Originally posted by cogburn
reply to post by EdWardMD
Well then please assist me. What is it that you would consider the "main links" on the page.
You could have just provided them.
Regardless of the availability of the WMD links, can you explain how
Originally posted by EdWardMD
I'd like to see the calculations. How did you measure neutron activation which is most likely the MAIN source of heat in steel, not the local blast temperature which is significant but is not nearly as far reaching as neutron activation at a significantly greater distance.
Ah, you simply ignored neutron activation and did a futher reduction by taking 20% of TNT. Useless calculations. Not only does it not include neutrons, you just made up a percentage to the reduce the value of blast effects.
Well, you should read THAT thread then, before you make baseless claims. I didn't use just the heat of the blast, I indeed used a 100% efficent neutron activation to calculate the total needed yield. I even ignored the effecy of neutron absorption by concrete, etc, and just did the maths for a bare steel frame.
I gave the thread starter every point he wanted, from being able to "steer" the neutrons, to using red mercury to "light" the reaction.
Read that again - I gave him every point that he wanted to claim in his effort to reason away blast effects.
The 20% was HIS number as far as estimating total yield vs blast yield, since he couldn't justify a lesser number. I used ONLY his numbers to do the maths.
Don't like 20%? Fine. 1% would still yield explosive effects equal to 75t of TNT to vaporize 5k tons of steel.
Better yet, since you disagree, let's see YOUR maths on what the blast effects would be to vaporize 5,000 metric tons of steel.
[edit on 6-2-2009 by Seymour Butz]
[edit on 6-2-2009 by Seymour Butz]
reply to post by Seymour Butz
Where are your neutron activation figures? 100% of what? How much heat does 1 neutron displace? How many neutrons are displaced for a 1 kilo neutron bomb? Then multiply and that's our heat FROM ONLY NEUTRONS THAT PENETRATE 18 INCHES OR MORE OF STEEL - 1 NEUTRON WOULD EASILY DO 3 TO 5 BEAMS or 2 core beams - but have more difficulty in air/water/ distances than one would expect. 100% of WHAT Joules? Not some BS of 100% of TNT. NEUTRONS aren't equivilant to dinky tnt for HEAT. Only neutrons can vaporize steel more than 30 feet from a dinky .1 kil blast. Probably no more than a 200 to 300 foot circlular focused blast in wtc conditions.
BTW, guess what, this will be a MEGA NUMBER OF JOULES COMPARED TO BS tnt. HUGE ENERGY IN NEUTRONS. It will be like lighting a match in Hiroshima and expecting to notice the temperature change. 100% of tnt is BS. mass x velocity x amount/number = energy for ONLY neutron heat. Might be able to calculate from drops in atomic energy potential - possibly.
But, that's only if you want to do it factually vs some BS 100% of tomatoes/corn/BS/tnt.
So far it seems like you have 2 pick from a hat variables in a supposed calculation fact. NO TRUE NEUTRON ACTIVATION NUMBERS = BS PASSED OF AS FACT. Damn Oak Leaves would be so proud.
DrEd
[edit on 6-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Where are your neutron activation figures? 100% of what? How much heat does 1 neutron displace? How many neutrons are displaced for a 1 kilo neutron bomb? Then multiply and that's our heat FROM ONLY NEUTRONS THAT PENETRATE 18 INCHES OR MORE OF STEEL - 1 NEUTRON WOULD EASILY DO 3 TO 5 BEAMS or 2 core beams - but have more difficulty in air/water/ distances than one would expect. 100% of WHAT Joules? Not some BS of 100% of TNT. NEUTRONS aren't equivilant to dinky tnt for HEAT. Only neutrons can vaporize steel more than 30 feet from a dinky .1 kil blast. Probably no more than a 200 to 300 foot circlular focused blast in wtc conditions.
BTW, guess what, this will be a MEGA NUMBER OF JOULES COMPARED TO BS tnt. HUGE ENERGY IN NEUTRONS. It will be like lighting a match in Hiroshima and expecting to notice the temperature change. 100% of tnt is BS. mass x velocity x amount/number = energy for ONLY neutron heat. Might be able to calculate from drops in atomic energy potential - possibly.
But, that's only if you want to do it factually vs some BS 100% of tomatoes/corn/BS/tnt.
So far it seems like you have 2 pick from a hat variables in a supposed calculation fact. NO TRUE NEUTRON ACTIVATION NUMBERS = BS PASSED OF AS FACT. Damn Oak Leaves would be so proud.
DrEd
[edit on 6-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC
WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
DrEd
[edit on 6-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
DrEd
[edit on 6-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Cause celeb?
You say "Visit my site and refute my facts."
I visit your site, half your "facts" are links that don't work.
I say "Fix your links so I can review your information."
You say "It's all there BS and you aren't reading the main BS points BS."
I say "Ok, I'll view another page then."
I pose a list of questions, to which you refuse to validate any of your claims with hard information, yet demand that all others refuting your claims do so.
Science and logic seem to be all "BS" to you.
I don't suppose you'd mind if I started to verify your medical credentials too, do you?
You say "Visit my site and refute my facts."
I visit your site, half your "facts" are links that don't work.
I say "Fix your links so I can review your information."
You say "It's all there BS and you aren't reading the main BS points BS."
I say "Ok, I'll view another page then."
I pose a list of questions, to which you refuse to validate any of your claims with hard information, yet demand that all others refuting your claims do so.
Science and logic seem to be all "BS" to you.
I don't suppose you'd mind if I started to verify your medical credentials too, do you?
reply to post by cogburn
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know.
DrEd
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know.
DrEd
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
reply to post by EdWardMD
There you said it again.
Please provide your medical evidence that the cancers were resultant from radiation and not from airborne carcinogens so I may have them submitted to a panel of oncologists for review.
Please provide your medical evidence that the cancers were resultant from radiation and not from airborne carcinogens so I may have them submitted to a panel of oncologists for review.
reply to post by XR500Final
I am having trouble digesting this.
Thermite could easily have melted through those columns and aircraft aluminum and ferric or ferrous oxide or ideally combo is what you need and then a strong activation energy to get her going.
I remember as a kid tinkering around with termite reactions using radiator stop leek aluminum for the fine mesh grade and 400 mesh powder combo of ferrick and ferrous oxide and then some magnesium fuse or a descent exothermic redox start and melt through JUNK steel at a friends junk card. Building headers, old car engines, numerous grades of ASTM steel.
This is not to say that GRU was in play or MOSSAD in play. I personally believe that the MOSSAD was absolutely in play and if they were involved, they got what they wanted. A partner for life to fight their battles and not even realize that their enemy was kept closer than their friends.
Exotic technology COULD have been used but the giant glow left over was likely just the MOLTEN IRON reduced from the thermite while the aluminum oxidized. I JUST DOUBT EXOTIC WAS NEEDED.
THERMITE's are fun to do in a sandbox, run a decent sample size 1kg+ and it will be glowing for well more than a day.
I am having trouble digesting this.
Thermite could easily have melted through those columns and aircraft aluminum and ferric or ferrous oxide or ideally combo is what you need and then a strong activation energy to get her going.
I remember as a kid tinkering around with termite reactions using radiator stop leek aluminum for the fine mesh grade and 400 mesh powder combo of ferrick and ferrous oxide and then some magnesium fuse or a descent exothermic redox start and melt through JUNK steel at a friends junk card. Building headers, old car engines, numerous grades of ASTM steel.
This is not to say that GRU was in play or MOSSAD in play. I personally believe that the MOSSAD was absolutely in play and if they were involved, they got what they wanted. A partner for life to fight their battles and not even realize that their enemy was kept closer than their friends.
Exotic technology COULD have been used but the giant glow left over was likely just the MOLTEN IRON reduced from the thermite while the aluminum oxidized. I JUST DOUBT EXOTIC WAS NEEDED.
THERMITE's are fun to do in a sandbox, run a decent sample size 1kg+ and it will be glowing for well more than a day.
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
DrEd
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
DrEd
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Originally posted by sheepchronicles
reply to post by XR500Final
THERMITE's are fun to do in a sandbox, run a decent sample size 1kg+ and it will be glowing for well more than a day.
Wow, thats some thermite. That stuff is miraculous to the byu crew. strange thermite burns at more than 200 meters in a second. Yet yours burns all day. Must be the superduperimproved thermate. And it takes 1 gm of thermite to turn 1 gm of steel to liquid.
The bogus science BS of thermate for the byu crew.
www.rense.com...
DrEd
TCN&911WIJ - Thermate, C4-like explosive, a Nuclear device & 911 Was an Inside Job!
1. Three Massive WTC Craters - See us gov LIDAR proof:
www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
2. Five Acres of WTC Land Brought to Seering Temperatures in a Few Hours by an 'Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled "Fire" - Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof: www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of 'traces' and 'of no human concern'. See us gov (DOE report) proof: groups.yahoo.com...
4. An Impossible "Fire" (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill's data on 'anaerobic incineration'. rense.com...
All of the above are facts are proven with referenced links of reputable data sources - many are from the government itself and more... Ed Ward, MD - 911 Related Articles - TCN&911WIJ - Chronological:
Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Micro-Nukes at the WTC www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Update: Micro-Nukes at the WTC www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC
www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Verifying the Source of WTC Tritium Levels that Are 55 Times "Background Levels" www.rense.com...
Prof. Jones Denies, Ignores, Misrepresents Proven Tritium Levels 55 Times Background Levels www.rense.com...
Steven Jones Replies To Dr. Ed Ward www.rense.com...
Prof Jones Gladly Assists Testing Unaffected WTC Items www.rense.com...
Vancouver Conference: Drs Deagle and Jones debate Micro Nukes (video) in the WTC www.911blogger.com...
Update: Factual Evaluation of the DOE WTC Tritium Report Data - 911 groups.yahoo.com...
Breakdown of the WTC Rain and Firehose Water - 4 Million Gallons of Dilution groups.yahoo.com...
Prof Jones Accepts Validity of Stable Isotopic Testing for Neutron Activation of Fusion Reactions groups.yahoo.com...
Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue groups.yahoo.com...
New Laws of Physics Noted in WTC Fires and Ignored - Dr Cahill's Discovery of Anaerobic Chlorine Fueled Combustion rense.com...
The Only Single All-Inclusive 911 Resolution Theory - TCN911WIJ groups.yahoo.com...
9/11 Sicknesses consistent with environmental radiation contamination www.agoracosmopolitan.com...
DrEd
1. Three Massive WTC Craters - See us gov LIDAR proof:
www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
2. Five Acres of WTC Land Brought to Seering Temperatures in a Few Hours by an 'Anaerobic, Chlorine Fueled "Fire" - Impossible by Basic Laws of Physics. See us gov Thermal Images proof: www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/03/05/ward.htm
3. Tritium Levels 55 Times (normal) Background Levels assessed a numerical value of 'traces' and 'of no human concern'. See us gov (DOE report) proof: groups.yahoo.com...
4. An Impossible "Fire" (Combustion Process). See Laws of Physics for Fire/Combustion Process and Dr. Cahill's data on 'anaerobic incineration'. rense.com...
All of the above are facts are proven with referenced links of reputable data sources - many are from the government itself and more... Ed Ward, MD - 911 Related Articles - TCN&911WIJ - Chronological:
Bombs in the WTC Buildings Proves Nothing to Racist-Fascist Bigots www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Micro-Nukes at the WTC www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Update: Micro-Nukes at the WTC www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Update: Proves Micro Nukes in the WTC
www.thepriceofliberty.org...
Verifying the Source of WTC Tritium Levels that Are 55 Times "Background Levels" www.rense.com...
Prof. Jones Denies, Ignores, Misrepresents Proven Tritium Levels 55 Times Background Levels www.rense.com...
Steven Jones Replies To Dr. Ed Ward www.rense.com...
Prof Jones Gladly Assists Testing Unaffected WTC Items www.rense.com...
Vancouver Conference: Drs Deagle and Jones debate Micro Nukes (video) in the WTC www.911blogger.com...
Update: Factual Evaluation of the DOE WTC Tritium Report Data - 911 groups.yahoo.com...
Breakdown of the WTC Rain and Firehose Water - 4 Million Gallons of Dilution groups.yahoo.com...
Prof Jones Accepts Validity of Stable Isotopic Testing for Neutron Activation of Fusion Reactions groups.yahoo.com...
Hello!?! 48,000 Curies of Tritium Would Have to Have Burned to Leave the 3.53/2.83 nCi/L of WTC Tritium Residue groups.yahoo.com...
New Laws of Physics Noted in WTC Fires and Ignored - Dr Cahill's Discovery of Anaerobic Chlorine Fueled Combustion rense.com...
The Only Single All-Inclusive 911 Resolution Theory - TCN911WIJ groups.yahoo.com...
9/11 Sicknesses consistent with environmental radiation contamination www.agoracosmopolitan.com...
DrEd
reply to post by EdWardMD
You're kinda nuts.
I like it.
EDIT: BTW, since I proved Mr. Deagle is no longer a doctor are you going to change those "facts" on your site to reflect the truth?
[edit on 7-2-2009 by cogburn]
I like it.
EDIT: BTW, since I proved Mr. Deagle is no longer a doctor are you going to change those "facts" on your site to reflect the truth?
[edit on 7-2-2009 by cogburn]
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
DrEd
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
'U donut need 2 B no 'nuklea cyst'' - even 'nuklea cysts' must fit in BASIC PHYSICS = all that is required for FACTS.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
DrEd
Hey, EdWardMD. At first your posts seemed reasonable.
However, whether you are right or wrong, there's something that you're missing... tact and integrity. Your last few posts have been trolling the same reply, which is not classy and the quickest way to turn off anyone who might be partial to your theory. At the very least, it will piss off the Moderators who will enforce civility and decorum.
Have an independent person read the recent exchange between you and cogburn and ask them to be honest with you. cogburn put some valid questions to you that were brushed off and ignored.
Now don't get me wrong, there may have been micronukes used. I'm open to that if it can be proven. All of your research may be spot-on and true. Well done to you for your hard work and effort. Many here appreciate it. The one thing that you might want to consider is that when you are trying to communicate your results on the internet and you're dealing with PEOPLE, then treat them with a little respect and you'll find that your message may come across a lot easier.
Anyway, do what you like, as you will. Just be prepared for more conflict and arguments if you continue to post in the same way. Most people I know respond in a far more positive manner when they aren't being labelled as a 'lying dirtball bayou boy'. Flame me if you wish, I really don't care. I don't get baited in those games.
However, whether you are right or wrong, there's something that you're missing... tact and integrity. Your last few posts have been trolling the same reply, which is not classy and the quickest way to turn off anyone who might be partial to your theory. At the very least, it will piss off the Moderators who will enforce civility and decorum.
Have an independent person read the recent exchange between you and cogburn and ask them to be honest with you. cogburn put some valid questions to you that were brushed off and ignored.
Now don't get me wrong, there may have been micronukes used. I'm open to that if it can be proven. All of your research may be spot-on and true. Well done to you for your hard work and effort. Many here appreciate it. The one thing that you might want to consider is that when you are trying to communicate your results on the internet and you're dealing with PEOPLE, then treat them with a little respect and you'll find that your message may come across a lot easier.
Anyway, do what you like, as you will. Just be prepared for more conflict and arguments if you continue to post in the same way. Most people I know respond in a far more positive manner when they aren't being labelled as a 'lying dirtball bayou boy'. Flame me if you wish, I really don't care. I don't get baited in those games.
reply to post by EdWardMD
#1 It's spelled "Nazis"
#2 "Bayou boy"? CIA scumbag Mormons? Oh man... Let's explore your psychosis together, shall we? I'd love to hear more about this tin foil hat theory.
#3 Causes of testicular cancer? I dunno... let's ask the American Cancer Society its...
Other sites include:
But wait! Isn't a radioactive material a pollutant or toxin? Why sure it is... but it's not confined only to radiation. However, by the good doctor's logic, anything that can cause cancer anywhere in the body could cause cancer in the testicles, not just radiation. Maybe like.... oh I dunno... benzene perhaps?
Does anyone even mention radiation as a specific cause of testicular cancer?
Not here. Not here. Not here. Not here.
Can you produce a single, qualified medical study that even mentions testicular cancer caused from radiation exposure? Someone who maybe was sitting on top of some yellow cake uranium for a few hours or something?
Sure... radiation can knock protein chains loose from a DNA sequence... but so can ultraviolet rays from the sun.... or maybe you have an alternative explanation for skin cancer.
#1 It's spelled "Nazis"
#2 "Bayou boy"? CIA scumbag Mormons? Oh man... Let's explore your psychosis together, shall we? I'd love to hear more about this tin foil hat theory.
#3 Causes of testicular cancer? I dunno... let's ask the American Cancer Society its...
- Undescended Testicle
- Family History
- HIV Infection
- CIS (carcinoma in situ)
- Cancer of the Other Testicle
- Age
- Race and Ethnicity
- Body Size
Other sites include:
But wait! Isn't a radioactive material a pollutant or toxin? Why sure it is... but it's not confined only to radiation. However, by the good doctor's logic, anything that can cause cancer anywhere in the body could cause cancer in the testicles, not just radiation. Maybe like.... oh I dunno... benzene perhaps?
Does anyone even mention radiation as a specific cause of testicular cancer?
Not here. Not here. Not here. Not here.
Can you produce a single, qualified medical study that even mentions testicular cancer caused from radiation exposure? Someone who maybe was sitting on top of some yellow cake uranium for a few hours or something?
Sure... radiation can knock protein chains loose from a DNA sequence... but so can ultraviolet rays from the sun.... or maybe you have an alternative explanation for skin cancer.
You tell 'em Ed, I am with you. I believe there were something like mini nukes in those towers, or at least that's one of the closest comparison to
the type of bombs that were used that I can put my finger on.
Take a look at this simple comparison of plowshare nuclear excavation project to the twin towers collapse in the above video, it looks strikingly similar. The commentary with specific details on the blast, the 'cratering technology' and how to deal with the radioactivity seems all too familiar to me.
You know, many of the early nuke tests were specifically focused on the damage done to re-enforced steel and concrete structures using a variety of different yields the effects of which are STILL classified (especially stuff concerning steel and metal ablation). You can pretty much bet that the perps would know exactly what type of yield would be required just by having access to the test results.
[edit on 7-2-2009 by Insolubrious]
Take a look at this simple comparison of plowshare nuclear excavation project to the twin towers collapse in the above video, it looks strikingly similar. The commentary with specific details on the blast, the 'cratering technology' and how to deal with the radioactivity seems all too familiar to me.
You know, many of the early nuke tests were specifically focused on the damage done to re-enforced steel and concrete structures using a variety of different yields the effects of which are STILL classified (especially stuff concerning steel and metal ablation). You can pretty much bet that the perps would know exactly what type of yield would be required just by having access to the test results.
[edit on 7-2-2009 by Insolubrious]
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes
Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=
First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?
""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...
google mormons in CIA - 326,000 links.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Estimating the risk of cancer associated with imaging related radiation during surveillance for stage I testicular cancer using computerized tomography. The relative risk of a secondary malignancy with surveillance compared to a single scan after retroperitoneal lymph node dissection is approximately 15.2. CONCLUSIONS: Computerized tomography used in testicular cancer surveillance protocols imparts large radiation doses and is associated with a significant risk of cancer. This risk should be factored into counseling
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes
Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=
First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?
""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...
google mormons in CIA - 326,000 links.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov... Estimating the risk of cancer associated with imaging related radiation during surveillance for stage I testicular cancer using computerized tomography. The relative risk of a secondary malignancy with surveillance compared to a single scan after retroperitoneal lymph node dissection is approximately 15.2. CONCLUSIONS: Computerized tomography used in testicular cancer surveillance protocols imparts large radiation doses and is associated with a significant risk of cancer. This risk should be factored into counseling
[edit on 7-2-2009 by EdWardMD]
Well you found one! Bravo! Now guess what, I found one that says testicular cancer lists benzene as a probable cause.
www.malehealth.co.uk...
www.benzene-lawyer.com...
www.healthunit.com...
Now can you prove the types of testicular cancer evidenced by 9/11 first responders was indeed caused by radiation and not benzene?
Are mormons out to ruin your research? Am I a mormon?
[edit on 7-2-2009 by cogburn]
www.malehealth.co.uk...
www.benzene-lawyer.com...
www.healthunit.com...
Now can you prove the types of testicular cancer evidenced by 9/11 first responders was indeed caused by radiation and not benzene?
Are mormons out to ruin your research? Am I a mormon?
[edit on 7-2-2009 by cogburn]
Originally posted by EdWardMD
So far it seems like you have 2 pick from a hat variables in a supposed calculation fact. NO TRUE NEUTRON ACTIVATION NUMBERS = BS PASSED OF AS FACT.
So you are unable to provide numbers then.
Got it.
reply to post by cogburn
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes
Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=
First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?
""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...
Proven multiple lying scammer Bayou boy, now has one link that proves benzene is a cause of cancer - yet first link doesn't even mention benzene. The rest of his proven lying links were BS - has one link - provides 3. More BS.
Lets see so far no one BSing 5 to 7 acres of land at 1500 degrees. And no one seems to have problems with BILLIONS OF TRITIUM UNITS IN THE WTC WATER.
Gee, what is the only SINGLE KNOWN PROVEN WEAPON that can do those things? Or turn 16 inch steel cores in cooked noodle form in seconds after withstanding 1/2 billion pounds of building falling on them. Or cram sulphur into every survivable surface. Or make massive craters. Massive cancers and spectrum of cancers - almost every cancer known to man, including testicular cancer which has no known cause except RADIATION - there are cancers in every organ/tissue/type - en masse - no known cause except nuclear weapon RADIATION. Intense heat. 2 billion pounds of instant dust debris? What is the only known proven weapon that can do these things - ALL OF THEM AND IT DOES THEM ALL BY IT'S NATURE EXCELLENTLY? Of course we can only know by knowing whether plut or ur was used in the core. Of course we can only know by some BS made up calculation passed off as fact that gives NO CALCULATION AS TO THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ENERGY IN NEUTRONS.
There's alot more but, TANGENTIAL BS, is the cause celeb. Waste of time.
BTW, Fa Q 'bayou - cajun term, sounds like BYU - lying dirtball' and see Below Me - Just so you know. Bayou did you know mormons are a large part of the working CIA - Gotta love those cia scumbag mormons - nice little natzies.
Bayou boy has 3 oncs on call. Call them. Give me any reputable reference for hiroshima effects than nuclear weapon radiation. Give me reference for proven testicular cancer cause other than radiation. We really need the specialist you have on call lying bayou, they should be able to quote off several instances of other causes of hiroshima effects - duh, aren't any thats why it's called hiroshima effects - duh -and testicular cancer - google testicular cancer for no known cause - except radiation - radiation will work on any cell in the body - that's why and how it causes 'hiroshima effects' and it will effect each cell differently depending on where the DNA is broken and sometimes how it repairs - it's the only thing known to produce 'hiroshima effects'. Do your work if you wish to counteract facts. More tangential BS.
Lets see link for toxins, pollutants and BS link - first line says EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THE BS YOU IMPLY BY LYING. Cancer of the Testicle Causes
""""We do not know exactly what causes testicular cancers. Unlike many other cancers, testicular cancer does not seem to run in families. We know that certain factors, listed here, increase a man's risk of developing a testicular cancer."""" www.emedicinehealth.com... of the Testicle Causes
Bayou boy just can't keep from deliberately posting lying BS. Google radiation causes cancer in ANY CELL. www.google.com... - 1.8 million links. hl=en&q=radiation+causes+cancer+in+any+cell+in+the+body&btnG=Google+Search&rlz=1W1GGLL_en&aq=f&oq=
First line of Amer Cancer Society link - What Causes Testicular Cancer?
""""While we do not know the exact cause of most cases of testicular cancer, we do know some of the risk factors linked to testicular cancer.""""""" www.cancer.org...
Proven multiple lying scammer Bayou boy, now has one link that proves benzene is a cause of cancer - yet first link doesn't even mention benzene. The rest of his proven lying links were BS - has one link - provides 3. More BS.
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