Best weapon available without a firearm license?

Originally posted by Omega85
Conventionality as well as Convenience would both play a very significant part in times of desperate defensive procedure as to what you have at your disposal, What you can use, the practicality of it and what is convenient at the time.

Non-conventionality would work to your advantage too.....A charged CO2 soda-carbonator filled with drain cleaner would immobilise any intruding gang or hungry dog-pack with a caustic blinding spray

study some basic chemistry; learn how to do some of the basics. Is paladin Press still around? they use to have all sorts of ideas.

I would also consider a "bang stick" used underwater on sharks. With a bit of ingenuity, you can create your own in various calibers. In my area there is still no license or questions asked when buying ammo. Just stock up early as it would become scarce quickly in a bad scenario.

I think you can have a 12. ga. PISTOL, not shotgun, and you don't have to have a license for it.

Plenty to take down a bear, or an intruder.

I recommend a book called "Naked Into The Wilderness"
This book has everything from shelters, and traps and trigger systems of any size for any animal, to making bows and arrows and drying meat. Almost everything you need is in nature including weapons for personal protection. Only two tools are really needed for the situations in the book, a fixed blade knife and a hatchet.

Best weapon without firearm license? Your body and knife.
Krav maga, im sure that there are some schools learning that in U.S. and Sambo, its like krav maga but it was designed for spetsnaz, russian elite soldiers. When you know military version of sambo u can fight with 3 or 4 ppl armed with axes using only a short rope... There is no easy way to become killer or fighter. You must learn and practice. There is one more thing, when you know how to use your body you will never run out of ammo...

Harpoon gun?
It's more compact than a bow or crossbow, anyways.

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Dont you need some licence to own crossbow or bow in U.S.? In europe you need that (maybe not in every country...) and its sometimes harder to get than firearm license... I wanted to hunt with crossbow legally and they was really freaked by that, crossbow and bow are "anonymous" weapons so even if they know that you have one they cant proove that you shot somone with it if you dont leave fingerprints on arrow. In my country you have more problems when they find fine crossbow than illegal pistol...
But, im not sure, do you need license for black powder guns? They are antiques but can work really well. One shot only but if you hit... Look at the size of ammo, damn cannons... I met a poacher once that had blunderbuss made that it looked like piece of old bike, rusty and all. When i saw that i was laughing but then i saw how it works... I was scared for 2 years that i meet poacher that dont know me and will use that on me...

I'm sure it varies by state, but in Pennyslvania you can buy a bow, crossbow, or muzzleloader right off the shelf. It requires no license, no background check, and no registration of any kind. You only need to present ID to verify age, and the information on your ID is not collected in any database.

Harpoon guns, I'm not sure. Now I want one just because it sounds fun, but I can't seem to find anywhere that sells them.

Hands and feet. A few months of Muai Thai will do the average guy wonders. I can throw a dtai Kao or teep that disables anyone who's hit with it. Body armor or not. I like a lot of the Kung Fu defense moves too. They have a lot of good Eye scratching, throat hitting, and nose strikes. Little specific moves for spur of the moment combat as if you're taken by surprise. As far as braving the elements.. Knife? In which you could incorporate with the previous suggestion for an equalizer. Haha.. I don't think we'll need this in our generation at least. Let's hope not...

Originally posted by citizen smith

Originally posted by Omega85
Conventionality as well as Convenience would both play a very significant part in times of desperate defensive procedure as to what you have at your disposal, What you can use, the practicality of it and what is convenient at the time.

Non-conventionality would work to your advantage too.....A charged CO2 soda-carbonator filled with drain cleaner would immobilise any intruding gang or hungry dog-pack with a caustic blinding spray

Or fire.... Not to steal thunder from your radical chem sprayer or anything but animals hate fire and the smell of smoke. You may need it for humans as you've mentioned...

A good sword, and not some fake one that will break if you strike a tree, any sword that is cheap in price is also cheap in quality

Have a look at these video clips on how to make a simple but powerful junk-airgun. It may not be sophisticated or pretty but it packs a wallop, can shoot a mix of metal washers/nuts as a crude shotgun and could make the difference between a rabbit dinner and going hungry

you can make a spud gun (google it) out of PVC piping... and use rocks/ potatoes..../anything at all... as ammo

you can make a Pipe Bomb.... with nails and scrap metal... which would make a really simple hand grenade for Self Defense...

you can use the anarchist cookbook ( home.scarlet.be... )
to make homemade explosions...

Honestly... these are all for self defense... and a sword or blowgun w/ a poison would also be effective...

there are many choices for weapons.... but it depends on the users skill/physical strength/dexterity.. all that good stuff.. so take some things out and practice....

Don't make anything according to instructions from the Anarchist's Cookbook. Even its author has stated that he wished he never wrote it, because it's full of stuff he just made up and never tested and it's more dangerous to its readers than anyone else.

To my knowledge, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you only need to fill out paperwork or get a license for handguns or "NFA" weapons (machine guns, artillery, etc) in the U.S.

I *think* these are the current laws:

Knives, swords, maces, halberds, spears, etc:
-Can buy from store or order off the internet.

Slings/slingshots
-Don't know if you can use these for small game hunting, probably ok for hunting vermin (rats/crow)
-Can buy from store or order off the internet.
-For survival go with a real sling. The rubber tubing on a wrist rocket will deteriorate and break within a year if it lasts that long.

Bow or crossbow
-Need a special permit for the disabled to hunt with a crossbow.
-Can buy from store or order off the internet.

Shotguns & Rifles
-I have no idea if you need paperwork to buy one these days.
-To order one over the internet I think it has to first be shipped to an FFA holder and then transfered to you. Might apply to shotguns also.
-For sawed-off shotguns: If you pay the $200 tax and register it, you can have ANY length barrel you want, as long as where you live also allows it.
-You can do some crazy stuff to a shotgun check post #7

Airguns
-There are no restrictions on them here for FPS etc.
-Legal to use for small game hunting.
-Can buy from store or order off the internet.

I bought this Beeman It has barrels for both .177 and .22 a very nice gun for the money. Came with a scope and case. UPS will drag any old thing out to your house in the U.S.

For what it's worth: Falconry requires 2 permits. lol

One thing to keep in mind: If they ever confiscate firearms here they will go over the list of people with registered weapons and THEN they will most likely go over the list of people that have/had a hunting license to get the unregistered weapons.

Originally posted by Sad Lil Alex
you can use the anarchist cookbook ( home.scarlet.be... )
to make homemade explosions...

As has been mentioned, the reciepes in the Anarchists Cookbook are either incomplete, incorrect, or missing vital steps that would make the difference between a very unstable self-detonating mixture, and a safe one....best left well alone for that reason.

Also, in case you missed the story (UK Teen Caught With Copy Of Anarchist's Cookbook Brought Up On Terror Charges) arrests have been made just for possessing the book/downloads, and you can guarantee that the link you posted, as well as others that point to the A.C. archives, will be flagged for very close scrutiny of IP addresses.

The idea is to fly below the radar and not draw the attention of the authorities or those who don't wish to be prepared to one's self, that way, you and your gear stay safe.

I like the idea of modifying a nailgun. The kind with the gunpowder charges.

I think your best bet would be an illegal firearm. There's no substitute, and all the really dangerous people, authorities and others, will have them anyway in a survival situation.

sorry for posting in an oldish forum, but if you need a weapon, you can go to here: TOTSE

Originally posted by tac109
A good sword, and not some fake one that will break if you strike a tree, any sword that is cheap in price is also cheap in quality

"Real" or fully functional swords were never intended to strike or chop down trees I'm afraid. There are much cheaper, better suited tools for these type of task like axes.

What you see in the movies is fantasy. Nobody in their right mind would take a finely crafted sword, costing upwards of $300+ and try to chop a tree down with it. To do so would be to destroy or seriously damage an otherwise very serviceable weapon.