98% sure Hostile Aliens dont exist.(or if they do they most certainly dont have interstellar travel

Of course their are hostile aliens that are way more advanced than us. That leads to a good question that i heard. If you were walking and came across a bunch of primitive ants you are going to smash them. you are not going to be friendly with them.

Because the laws of physics is the same everywhere in the universe. Fact. [

You can't say this is fact. How much of the universe have you personally observed? 0.00000000001e-100%? What about other universes? Are you sure ours is the only one? What about non-carbon based life forms? Are you sure there are none? No, you are not. What about planets that have different environments than ours such as a very heavy gravity or hotter/colder than Earth or a liquid only planet or planets where ammonia is the breathing gas of choice? Do you think the dominant life form on a very warm, silicon based ammonia breathing planet would have the same physical characteristics as humans? I don't think so.

The building blocks of life contained in astriods are much the same and life here on Earth developed in a kind of mathematic way so it is not unreasonable to claim or expect life to develope the same way everywhere.

'Much the same' and 'the same' are not equivalent.

By looking at how life developed on our planet it comes clear that life do not develope in a random way.

Yea, and I suppose the fish living in the ocean believe that all beings must look like and behave like fish.

For example it is no accident that animals have 4 legs, while the small insects have 6 legs. There is a kind of mathematic logic behind natural selection or development. We don't see a 6 legged horse for a reason.

It wouldn't be a horse then, would it?

So I can't see how looking at the life around us can be wiewed as arrogant. We MUST look at the life we know.

This is my point. You can't see. You are making broad statements and claiming to know how other species look and behave even though you or anyone you've ever known or ever heard about has never left this planet.

You keep saying 'life develops in a mathematical way'. Are you claiming to understand all mathematics too? Are you inferring that all of the aliens that have come to Earth are representative of all the species in the universe? Maybe all the ones that come here look similar because they live 'relatively' close to us and that's how species look in this area. Fish probably think that all species have gills and swim in schools too. Do you think fish understand the war in Iraq? So how can you claim you know what's happening on a planet in a galaxy 6 billion light years away that has a civilation with 4 billion years of technical development compared to our 100 or so years? You can't.

There have also been reports of aliens with wings. What do you have to say about that? I don't see any humans with wings.

If you look at the life forms on Earth you will see that a good percentage of them fight and kill other species. So according to your math logic then chances are that extra-terrestrial species probably fight and kill other species too regardless of the ability of inter-planetary travel.







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Originally posted by Ghaele


All the planets around us, Mars, Venus, Titan, Europe and so on. I did not say there are animal life on the other planets. I were pointing to nature and physics being the same on all planets. And by this we understand it will be like that on all planets around other stars too.
What aliens we have seen? You are reading the Aliens forum so you already know.

I can understand with the laws of physics being the same, but the laws of nature? How could we possibly know that Earth's 'laws' of nature are universal?

We would recognize alien military symbols if they existed bacause there are many withnesses that describe what they see. The aliens don't wear any symbols at all as far as the reports go.

Maybe these aliens could have their symbols in a wavelength or something that is invisible to the human eye?

Just because these supposed aliens may not be hostile or have such symbols doesn't mean that another alien race would not be hostile and would not have any symbols.

But then this is logic; any being making a rocket must have hands so they can make tools to make the rocket in the first place. That is why we won't ever meet alien rockets driven by elphant like beings... No hand to build with.

Unless of course those beings evolved to use their trunk the way we use our hand.

You must consider all possibilities, how could you possibly presume that all beings in the universe would have to be similar to the ones on Earth?

For all we know, it may in fact work the same way everywhere, but it may not. We have not even begun to look, and before we do, it would be very ignorant to think everything works the same way, we just do not know.

Mayan, I personally think that your supposition is actually backwards. If there is an advanced race of extraterrestial biological entities I believe that they would be an imperialistic race that could pick you off the street with a beam of light and skewer you until it has had it's nourishment. In fact, they may already be here and have been here for thousands of years.

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yea whatever,thats your opinion , and as much as i respect each and everyone;s opinions,i still stick by mine.

I said already countless times. ITS MY OPINION ONLY.

think what you want.

-Mayan

Originally posted by Ghaele
Because the laws of physics is the same everywhere in the universe. Fact.
The possibility of life spread by astroids flying between star systems. Fact.

Not Fact Actually.

The Laws Of Physics as WE know Arent the same in the universe. For example.

Blackholes defy the laws of physics.

Wormholes defy the laws of physics.

And ACTUALLY Life forms from stars that go nova.

-Mayan

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I am 100% CERTAIN that HOSTILE 'aliens' do NOT exist.

mankind can be quite hostile. Our friends from the beyond the stars are full of LOVE just like God.

I am 100% certain of these things I say.

We are not alone and it is a point of blessing not fear.

FEAR NOT.

Originally posted by queenannie38
I am 100% CERTAIN that HOSTILE 'aliens' do NOT exist.
mankind can be quite hostile. Our friends from the beyond the stars are full of LOVE just like God.

That's a big claim. Have you got any proof?

If not, then I'll treat it as your unsubstantiated opinion and not fact.

tezzajw , almost every post i see of yours has been "thats a big claim"

lol if ur just gonna sit around waiting for other people's opinions so that you can just say "hey thats a big claim,got any proof?" then dont freaking say anything at all.

Your post hasnt helped in the slightest. and is quite Pointless.

And By the way...She said " I AM" 100% positive hostile aliens dont exist

Bloody Read what She said before you start asking for proof and crap.

Thank you

Sorry for the edits (Spelling errors)

-Mayan

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Thank you, Mayan!

Here is *some sort of proof perhaps*:

Weird letter
Lamb Miracle
Woman Rides a Beast
Behold a White Horse
Alpha & Omega
Witch

Or at the least, 'progress toward.'

Live long and prosper!

Originally posted by queenannie38
Thank you, Mayan!
Here is *some sort of proof perhaps*:

None of those links constitute any proof for your claim that the stars are full of love, just like god.

Yet again, another unsubstantiated opinion about god, typed on the screen as though it is fact.

Originally posted by tezzajw

None of those links constitute any proof for your claim that the stars are full of love, just like god.

Yet again, another unsubstantiated opinion about god, typed on the screen as though it is fact.

whats your point ?

Quit posting useless crap to my thread. i dont care that you THINK its an "unsubstantiated" Opinion about God.

People have the rights to their own opinions. Which is WHY i started this thread.

i Did not however start this thread for you to ridicule people's opinions,whether its fact or not.

Who are you to judge them?

-Mayan

There is no such thing as an unsubstantiated opinion. Every opinion is valid, it doesn't rely on proof.

Originally posted by queenannie38

mankind can be quite hostile. Our friends from the beyond the stars are full of LOVE just like God.

Maybe our friends from beyond the stars ARE God?!

What makes you certain that the aliens would even have an emotion of love? There may be millions of species full of love out there, we don't know, but why not at least one species other than man that is full of hate? The fact that there is at least one species we know of who actively go around killing one another to me is some sort of evidence that maybe another species could also possess such traits, interstellar travel ready or not.

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believe it or not But All intelligent races in the universe has the same lifeforce as us, they were more than likely Created in the same exact way we were (just different environments of course) , But all life in the universe is relative to one and other.

it all comes from the universe (Sentient Energy) And we are made up of it.

All life was made by the Universe. The Universe..Could and very well may be what you would call "God".

I am not stating Fact here, and even if i DID have evidence of this,i would definetely not share it here,as long as this forum still has alot of closed minded fools,any evidence i can share of MY theories will not be revealed here.

-Mayan

Originally posted by queenannie38
I am 100% CERTAIN that HOSTILE 'aliens' do NOT exist.

mankind can be quite hostile. Our friends from the beyond the stars are full of LOVE just like God.

I am 100% certain of these things I say.
We are not alone and it is a point of blessing not fear.
FEAR NOT.

Ok I'll join in on the unsubstantiated opinions stated as fact club! Here goes, ready?

I am 100.00 percent positive beyond a doubt the HOSTILE ALIENS DO EXIST and are NOT full of love whatsoever. In fact these hostile aliens that exist have no emotion whatsoever, they simply act logically, machine-like, and decimate the opposition to advance their cause and their species. Thank you.


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Originally posted by Mayan2012
believe it or not But All intelligent races in the universe has the same lifeforce as us, they were more than likely Created in the same exact way we were (just different environments of course) , But all life in the universe is relative to one and other.

So if we are all created by this same lifeforce, and all life in the universe is relative to one another, then why can't we have hostile aliens? We have hostile humans, so why not an alien?

An idea: what if aliens had created robots, that were there to protect their creators. They discover us humans, see that we kill each other, and following orders, they attack Earth, better safe than sorry. Would these robots technically be aliens?

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did i say we dont have Hostile aliens? NO i said there isnt Hostile Aliens With INTERSTELLAR travel.

lol read the thread title.

We dont have interstellar travel now do we? lol


we Wont have it either unless 1. All of Earth Ascends (that wont happen because too many of you are close minded ignorant fools)
2. we eradicate all wars,and differences between us.

-Mayan

Ok sorry, change what I said from Aliens, to Aliens WITH interstellar travel.
Bah I guess I can't use humans as an example because we don't have interstellar travel, but c'mon, why is it deemed logical that we would have to be in a state of peace in order to develop this technology? Wars have an excellent role in creating technology, during a war wouldn't we want to have an edge over the enemy? Why couldn't this technology come up during a war? Many other technologies have

You really think the Universe would let Life go out and destroy It ?

I dont think so.

i dont think the Universe would let any race of beings go out into the universe conquering planets / destroying them.

and when i mean "let" i mean there are rules set in place.

Such as Wars, and violence towards each other....come on Aaronman think about it.

We still have Racial Issues on Earth !!!!!!....you really think Earth is ready for setting out exploring new life civilizations? LOL

think again

-Mayan