VIDEO: Royal Navy Crewman 'Confess' on Iranian Television

VIDEO: Royal Navy Crewman Confess on Iranian Television

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A second member of the Royal Navy crew captured in the Gulf has apologised for trespassing in Iranian waters, in a broadcast on Iranian television.
He was quoted as saying: "We entered Iranian waters without permission and were arrested by Iranian coastguards.

"I would like to apologise to the Iranian people for that."

The Foreign Office described the latest "confession" video as "disgraceful exploitation". The UK denies the crew had trespassed.

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[edit on 30-3-2007 by khunmoon]

This is definitely a worsening of the situation. We've had forced letters written and now a forced video confession.

After yesterday's harsh worded condemnation by the UN and now this humiliation, one must ask how much longer will the British stand up to this?

Are they really that stupid those Iranians that they want war by all means?

EDIT: For video of "confession" go 7 posts down, or you can get it here.


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[edit on 30-3-2007 by khunmoon]

Keep your powder dry, folks. We can take some comfort in knowing that not ALL of those sailors have been put in front of a camera. I don't know if that means there are any holdouts, but we can hope. Be prepared for this to go on for atleast another week.

I praise the lawd those hostages are British and not American, cause then all hell would have been lose by now.

But why do Iran really wanna add that much to their rouge image. Not talking about their system, but national character, I've always taken Iranians for intelligent.

This makes them 10 years further from the good company. If they ever get there.

I'm not for the Iranians, but let let point out a few thngs.

Imagine what this looks like from their point of view. It CAN look like their leaders are fighting back agaisnt Western imperialism. I would not be surprised to learn that there are a lot of Iranian patriots following this with some interest.

Much of what we're seeing...that we can't relate to...is being done by the Iranian government to whip up support for the regime that is going to be hit by new U.N. mandated sanctions.

Originally posted by Justin Oldham
Much of what we're seeing...that we can't relate to...is being done by the Iranian government to whip up support for the regime that is going to be hit by new U.N. mandated sanctions.

on another angle, it could be they are going to offer the soldiers up for a reduction in the sanctions or even for more leniency in the nuke program monitoring.

they're using the brits for something. They didn't go and grab them for being in their waters (nor not being in their waters). There's a bigger reason here and I agree they need to build internal support but the bargaining chip makes sense as well.

It's hard to see how these actions will make them gain any support from Westerners no matter how much they are against the invasion of Iraq and the possible upcoming one with Iran.

I'm hoping and waiting for the video of the "confession" to be uploaded so I can post it here.

Meanwhile I found this, an Iranian briefing on the GPS positions. How are we to believe any, Bush and Blair has been caught lieing before.


It's Farshi that's spoken, but picture of map speaks for itself.
Maybe we could get some Farshi speakings come in to translate. I know we do have members who speak it.

Knowing that the Iranians are going to 'feed' off the Western reaction, we should be aware of it and hope for moderate behavior. Wouldn't do to have anyone make a mistake (on either side) that actually does result in war.

Got it!!

Here it is.

Iran Broadcasts British Sailor's Apology

Originally posted by Justin Oldham
Much of what we're seeing...that we can't relate to...is being done by the Iranian government to whip up support for the regime that is going to be hit by new U.N. mandated sanctions.

Is this the reason why they are showing them confessing on camera? I for one don't understand the purpose of showing the sailors on TV when we all know these confessions are coerced. Is it to buildup internal support? Aren't the Iranian people aware their leaders are poking a stick at a lion about to bite them?

I believe the US is just begging for a reason to go to war, in fact I would be surprised they come up with a false flag op soon, but it looks like they won't need to if the Iranians keep this up.

These Iranians must be suicidal.

Originally posted by Hal9000
Is this the reason why they are showing them confessing on camera? I for one don't understand the purpose of showing the sailors on TV when we all know these confessions are coerced. Is it to buildup internal support? Aren't the Iranian people aware their leaders are poking a stick at a lion about to bite them?

I believe the US is just begging for a reason to go to war, in fact I would be surprised they come up with a false flag op soon, but it looks like they won't need to if the Iranians keep this up.

These Iranians must be suicidal.

Showing the video and letters has to be for internal support. They must know, and probably not care, about what effect this has on the families, friends, members of the armed forces and the British public at large, and are willing to enrage another nation in order to get people behind them.

I have been wondering how much of a hold the Iranian leaders have right now. This could be a desperate attempt to get the public whipped up into a furore and get behind those in charge. If this is possible, how desperate might they be? Would they be willing to keep poking that stick, get attacked and try to gain even more support from it?

All one big show of western propaganda versus Iranian propaganda.
I'm sure much of what we see from the Iranian's is as much bs as what we see from US/UK. Both controlled by more or less a single power, for the sole purpose of getting enough public support from both sides; in order to go through with the plans.

"ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country"

That quote is exactly right. Except we're not asking! We're being carefully manipulated via potent amounts of propaganda, in order to give the governments exactly what they want.

Wake up and start asking people!

:sniffs: ...what a wonderful world this would be if Kennedy was still here this day...

I find it interesting how both the US and Iran are using coercion to get people to confess to whatever their charged with.

Very similar to the Khalid Sheik Muhammad confession don't you think.

I really don't hope they give them water-boarding.

Khalid Sheik Muhammad is a so called "illegal combatant" whereas these sailors are legal POW.

Originally posted by khunmoon
I really don't hope they give them water-boarding.

Khalid Sheik Muhammad is a so called "illegal combatant" whereas these sailors are legal POW.

What war are we fighting with Iran?

Whatever the case, coercion was definitely involved in both confessions. As for the illegal enemy combatant/POW stuff, it's all semantics.

Originally posted by Muppetus Galacticus

Originally posted by khunmoon
I really don't hope they give them water-boarding.

Khalid Sheik Muhammad is a so called "illegal combatant" whereas these sailors are legal POW.

What war are we fighting with Iran?

Well, it struck me as well when writing it. What else should we call them?

Alien trespassers?

Like Rasobasi says, it's all semantics.

Anyway forced confessions are always questionable.

I'm really not all for starting another war at this point...but this is an act of war and it needs to be responded to. We should start by blocking the persian gulf and if that doesn't work...start sinking iraninan ships. If this act is not responded to, it will only embolden the Iranians to continue on their course.

I have a passing familiarity with interrogation methods...for reasons that I am not willing to explain at this time.

It's not that hard to work within the Geneva guidelines and still get what you want from prisoners. Any number of things could have happened to make those two sailore step in front of a camera. Some could be totally legit, while other reasons could have been engineered.

You'd be surprised how easy it really is to get people to do what you want them to. It's even easier to get 'em to say whatever you want.

thanks Khunmoon for the video link of the Royal Navy hostage it made my blood run cold though, he was obviously speaking under duress lets hope they all get out soon one of those young guys lives a short distance from me in my home town, why does it always have to come down to America and Britain to sort out the world

[edit on 30-3-2007 by avro]