Why i think the TR-3B Astra Locust does not exist and never did

originally posted by: BlackDog10
a reply to: X88B88

There is no proof of that. Just because you say something exists doesn't mean it actually does. You can't simply believe or wish something into existence.

Do classified 'operational' aircraft exist? Undoubtedly. Anti-gravity... that's a bit of a stretch.

That,s a fair comment, and I agree with it somewhat
I believe Anti-gravity exists, but is it applicable to aircraft, well, I don,t know.

So, the question still stands. What are these "TRIANGLES" people have seen.
Are they on some drugs and dillusional
Are they just making it all up, so they get their 5 mins of fame
Or have they really seen what they claim. If so, why is such super secret technology that whoever wants it kept uber secret, being flown over cities for all to see, and if lucky enough, even get a photo

a reply to: madmick

There are real black triangles. Just check Chris Gibson's sighting.

a reply to: BlackDog10

Yep, that is a good reference, but I get the feeling that was/is a triangular shaped "aircraft", if that makes sense !

The craft I am referring to is the TR3-B, ( not named by me ) before everybody comes online trying to beat me up.

The triangular craft that supposedly can hover, then fly off at fantastic speeds. Is black, or greyish in colour. And has a configuration of lights on the bottom.
This has reportedly been seen by many people, some several times, and over cities. I mean, if it's meant to be uber secret, what are they doing flying it over cities, for anybody to get a photo, if lucky enough.
So, are these people telling the truth, or not

a reply to: madmick

I put that in the same category as 'little green men'.

a reply to: madmick

can't speak for everyone but not everybody who sees triangles is on drugs, crazy or making things up for attention.

the triangles are real.
they do fly over cities, quietly, low and obscenely fast. they do these over flights regularity enough. as to why nobody gets decent pictures well I'd say there are lots of reasons for that and that's all I'll say. but if you want to try....good luck you'll be stupid rich within 24 hours if you do!....or dissapeared.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: madmick

can't speak for everyone but not everybody who sees triangles is on drugs, crazy or making things up for attention.

the triangles are real.
they do fly over cities, quietly, low and obscenely fast. they do these over flights regularity enough. as to why nobody gets decent pictures well I'd say there are lots of reasons for that and that's all I'll say. but if you want to try....good luck you'll be stupid rich within 24 hours if you do!....or dissapeared.

Thanks for responding Bassplyr, I was hoping you would rejoin the conversation. Firstly, let me apologise if anybody thinks I was accusing them of being mad or a fake. I was just putting options out there.
Secondly, I believe the crafts are real, although I have never seen one, nor do I have any evidence.
I agree with your statement that if you are lucky enough to photo one then your rich or gone ! Apparently it has happened before on a different craft.
I have read several posts of yours , and other people who say they have seen these things, but would love to hear anybodys opinion of WHY, they fly these super secret crafts over populated cities, when they go all out to say they dont exist.

Is it because they are so confident of their tech not to be seen/photographed that they are putting it to the test. If so thats a bit risky when folk have physically seen them.
Any more info would be great

originally posted by: BlackDog10
a reply to: madmick

I put that in the same category as 'little green men'.

You put black project secret craft that can reportedly move in weird ways in the category of "little green men".
Yet, there are peers on certain forums who state very special craft exist that would blow peoples minds, and would melt the web down if revealed.
So, are triangular craft that hard to believe ?
You are entitled to your opinion of course, as obviously, I cannot prove they do exist,

a reply to: madmick

There are lots of people that say Obama is a reptilian shape shifter.

Now, there may be something like Senior Citizen (if it exists), which may seem odd if seen (seems unlikely for something that would be extremely classified) that could account for a strange moving black object, but black triangles that defy the laws of physics and use anti-gravity technology? I find that very, very hard to believe.

Let me ask the members of this forum a simple question. Have you ever wondered or even contemplated how clouds are formed and move around the planet? How can that much water stay suspended in the atmosphere and only at a certain time release it? The sheer amount of energy created by a storm. Where does it come from how is it generated and where does all that energy dissipate to? Lightning,thunder all natural processes. Those black vehicles travel on the same natural currents that surround the planet. It is our magnetic field. Just like ocean and wind currents there a magnetic currents that we humans can't see but lower class animals are in tune with. We have learned a long time ago to harness this energy field. It is free to use like the wind and the flowing water. It is also something that the government does not want those who are citizens to have or use. But it exists. Black triangles are research and observation vessels. That is what they are called not aircraft. They can move in any direction and have no external propulsion. It is all internal..The term I heard used was "contained condensed ion propulsion." or something to that effect.. This is a drawing of one from what a person observed as it flew above him in Texas I believe. Those openings are negative ion generators. They allow ions to be "blown" in to compartments inside the ship. As the generators operate ions condense. Not compress but condense. The internal pressure inside the compartment''s stay the same as the outside atmospheric pressure. The openings actually are always open and just a slight electrical charge is needed to contain the condensed ions..Once all the chambers have condensed ions to a certain amount a slight charge can be applied to any of the five(top, bottom 3 sides) walls of each container.If the vessel needs to rise a negative charge is applied to the inside bottom of each container.. This will cause the negative ions to repel against the charge and "push" the container and the vessel upward. This is how the craft is controlled any direction at any altitude at any speed. The higher the charge is the faster the vessel can go. You can manipulate the angle and attitude by the amount of charge in each container and the direction it is applied on the walls. These craft are only powered by very small very quiet generators mounted internally and a very small crew. Of course the smaller the better for security reason. The "coxswain" or pilot only uses a joystick to control the craft. It is that simple. It is all electrical. The vessels were built by a private contractor and is operated by the same company. All the components are actually nothing more than circuit boards mounted to carbon fiber composite sheets. The whole craft only weights the amount of a four door pick up and most of that weight is in the crew compartment and engine bay.. Actually that is about the configuration of the crew compartment. 4 individuals seated with just enough head room to stand and move about on a center walkway..These craft generate a lot of energy that needs to be dissipated.It actually builds up at the corners and this is the reason for the lights at each corner. They use that energy and regulate it inside the craft. There is still a high static energy build up externally and this can be seen sometimes in the blue glow seen around the craft particularly in areas of operation with high humidity. The lights also help that to dissipate too. The only hazard this craft has to the occupants is high heat. Even with the on board cooling the compartments as the craft transits through the sky creates heat from friction..This is one of the reasons they are seen low to the ground and moving slowly. They can move at an exceptionally high speed but once in a while they have to slow down and cool off slow to speak. Computer components circuit boards don't work efficiently hot. So, where do they operate from? Are there secret bases ? Well no. They do not need a runway or a hangar. They use the national parks,forests wilderness areas as their bases. Now you know why there are many areas closed off with armed guards military types controlling access. On the west coast in California where I am located there are the Channel Islands National parks. This is the location of one base on I believe Santa Rosa island. It is located between Vandenberg AFB and the naval air activities at Point Mugu and San Nicholas island.. So what is their purpose? Actually not as nefarious as you may believe at least not at this moment. They are mapping the earth's magnetic field and the flow of the magma in the core of the earth. The planet is in a transitional period with many earth changes happening and they are still attempting to understand it. There are actually a number of programs and projects taking place some right in front of the public eyes all related to these earth changes.. I will post about one other one shortly in the appropriate forum..

There seems to be a couple of different triangles, low and slow and like what BASSPLYR seen. It's all apparently quite real, the low and slow seem to have been around quite awhile what BASS seen to me seems to be a whole other thing all together.

To be honest I think the triangles (not triangle shaped jets) are the only thing to talk about when it comes to stuff in the sky.

Talking about these things long enough on this site seems to get a response from time to time that gets folks heads spinning.......so I say keep it up.

a reply to: Mondogiwa

I find it quite fun in my imagination (for this you will need to us yours) where, lets say for sake of argument that this technology exists in reality, regardless of its origin.

you are in the position where it has been tested and it works very well and are in charge of deciding where to fly in it. Considering that you could go anywhere in it, where would be the first place you would go?

personally, I would go to the moon, grab the american flag and sell it on ebay lol

the famous Belgian UFO were " military exercises " of NATO in anticipation of the first Gulf War, the observation dates of the wave match, ( November 1989).

The planes came from Germany -> to England NATO base

Satellite photos for that period are classified, why ? because it comes to military preparations of first Gulf War.

NATO classified sensitive information is the property of NATO and can not be made ​​public without the organization 's permission. Should I remind you that during the Gulf War of 1990-1991 , the international coalition used its air superiority to destroy the military industrial complex of Iraq ( about 2000 helicopters were deployed .... to 1700 aircraft. )

plus

the defence Minister Guy Coëme ( in 1990 ) had banned
theft within 150 meters to foreign aircraft over the Ardennes area , the
Belgian drivers could continue flying down to 80 meters. This decision is formally taken to prevent German military pilots come to train in Belgium.


Nuclear TR3B can't exist, imagine a crash on New York city , what the f*** about nuclear contamination , that kind of problem may explain why nuclear TR3B is a mith and may be to much dangerous to use with civilian populations down !!! Billions of dollars in justice plus nuclear hazards on nature, building etc ..

TR3B could be powered with other sources of energy less dangerous like hydrogen-powered / fuel-cell.

Why does the thinking always that it is USA?Why cant it be a German design,or British?

originally posted by: Blackfinger
Why does the thinking always that it is USA?Why cant it be a German design,or British?

Cause.....USA!! USA!! USA!!!

Dont hate us cause you anus.

Land Down under mate..Paradise on earth

a reply to: Blackfinger

Because no one else has the budget or ability to hide the budget, if this was real.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Blackfinger

Because no one else has the budget or ability to hide the budget, if this was real.

So in other words?

USA!!! USA!!! USA!!!

We smarter

originally posted by: blindedbybelief
Let me ask the members of this forum a simple question. Have you ever wondered or even contemplated how clouds are formed and move around the planet? How can that much water stay suspended in the atmosphere and only at a certain time release it?... It is our magnetic field. .. It is also something that the government does not want those who are citizens to have or use. But it exists. Black triangles are research and observation vessels. That is what they are called not aircraft. They can move in any direction and have no external propulsion. It is all internal..The term I heard used was "contained condensed ion propulsion." or something to that effect..

Transpose this 50 years? In 1964 Major De Seversky's Ion-Propelled Aircraft - a device that uses an electrical electrohydrodynamic (EHD) phenomenon to produce thrust in the air without requiring any combustion or moving parts.
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Another interesting experiment and explanation of theory, www.youtube.com...